TIMSPEED
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September 21st, 2010 at 9:07:35 AM permalink
Was at JANugget this weekend on comp mailer/free play.
Just happened to be at the crap table at the right time on Saturday night.
Started off just wanting to shoot, so I squeezed in to a full table, and bet very cautiously.
$5 flat + single odds pass & 1 come bet.
Hour and a half later (3 shooters) it gets to the guy next to me, and I'm up about $150. The guy next to me holds the cubes for a solid hour and a half HIMSELF. I only had bets on the 6/8 (start at $6, press up to $24 and leave at that level; I just like getting a green for every hit). I made $550 on JUST that guy. Of course, everyone else at the table (who had bets on EVERY number, of AT LEAST $100 each number) made in the THOUSANDS (One guy who is a good sized player made $20k).
The kid who threw the duke, actually made more in TIPS than he made himself (he was only betting $5 on the pass line single odds). He probably made $500 in JUST TIPS (after his rolls greens just started flying towards him and the guy who made $20k threw him a black; the guy to my left gave him $86)
Looking back, I wished I would have bought the 4/10 also, damnit; I recall one time, the guy to my left hit a $500 buy on the 4 to make $1000. (minus vig)

Now, not only has THIS happened this month...
The first weekend this month, I hit a $1200 25c Progressive Royal Flush, then $500 quad Aces with a kicker on 25c vP.
Then later that week I won $1100 on 25c vP (just hit a mass of quads playing Bonus Poker Deluxe).
Why can't shit like this happen EVERY month, LOL.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
Asswhoopermcdaddy
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September 21st, 2010 at 9:16:49 AM permalink
Congrats man! Where were you playing?
TIMSPEED
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September 21st, 2010 at 10:26:26 AM permalink
JANugget = John Ascuaga's Nugget in Sparks, NV.
The $1200 hit was at Grand Sierra Resort in Reno, NV
The $1100 overall win was at Jackson Rancheria Indian Casino in Jackson, CA.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
goatcabin
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September 21st, 2010 at 12:56:51 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

JANugget = John Ascuaga's Nugget in Sparks, NV.
The $1200 hit was at Grand Sierra Resort in Reno, NV
The $1100 overall win was at Jackson Rancheria Indian Casino in Jackson, CA.



Congrats! BTW, does Jackson Rancheria have some form of craps, played with cards?
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
TIMSPEED
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September 21st, 2010 at 1:18:36 PM permalink
No no, not at all. They UUUUSSSEEEED to, way back when. But it's been gone at least 5 years.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
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September 21st, 2010 at 1:50:02 PM permalink
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No no, not at all. They UUUUSSSEEEED to, way back when. But it's been gone at least 5 years.



The Colusa Casino also abandoned their card craps game. Cache Creek still has it, though. Have you been out there?
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
TIMSPEED
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September 22nd, 2010 at 9:15:16 AM permalink
I have played all forms of "Card craps" and I can safely say, they're all garbage.
I prefer Barona Casino in Lakeside if I'm going to play any "modified" form of craps...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
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September 22nd, 2010 at 9:38:18 AM permalink
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I have played all forms of "Card craps" and I can safely say, they're all garbage.
I prefer Barona Casino in Lakeside if I'm going to play any "modified" form of craps...



What makes them "garbage", in your view? Certainly, I prefer "pure" craps, but the cards systems I have played preserve the exact probabilities, so there's no need to play differently. What sort of system do they use in Lakeside?

The system I liked best was the one at Colusa:

two sets of six cards, ace through six, one set blue, one red, are placed in six blue and six red numbered rectangles
a red die and a blue die are thrown by the "shooter"
the number showing in the red die "points" to the red card to be turned over, same for the blue
the two cards are the analogs of dice, so you can have hardways, etc.
between "rolls", the cards are shuffled around, so you never know which card is in which box

There is no issue of replacement, the results are random and all the other rules were the same. I'm pretty sure that they paid triple 12 on the Field, but I can't remember what odds multiple they allowed. IIRC, the table was open evenings and weekends after around 1 PM. I don't know why they stopped it.

Cache Creek uses two decks of 36 cards, each with a picture of two dice. One deck is being shuffled while the other is in use. Two cards are dealt, one in a red rectangle, the other in a blue one. The "shooter" rolls a red die with just 1s and 3s and a blue one with just 2s and 4s, so there cannot be a tie. Whichever colored die has the higher number, the card in that colored rectangle is turned over, giving the result. The deck is only used for one roll, then replaced with the just-shuffled one, so here again there is no issue of replacement and the probabilities never change. Cache Creek does not have a triple payout on the Field, but they allow 3, 4 5X odds. On weekends they have $10 minimum, but during the week it's still $5, at least the last time I was there.

Cache Creek also has "roulette", played the same way, with cards and a wheel with black and red slots, double-zero of course. I have never played it, but I may try just a few spins for 35-1 on a single number. For a long payoff, it has a lower HA than any of the craps prop bets.

Yes, California should shit-can this stupid law, but in the meantime a 20-minute drive vs. a 2-1/2-hour drive and stayover tips the scale in favor of card craps most of the time, for me.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
TIMSPEED
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September 22nd, 2010 at 2:59:35 PM permalink
Just because I personally dislike indian casino's, and I don't believe the "card craps" provides the same odds.
The one at Barona was SIMILAR to Colusa.
They had 6 cards (A-6) at the top of the table (directly in front of the boxman) and each card represented a die facing. They placed these cards at the beginning of each "hand", as to determine the dice outcome.
The rest of the game was exactly the same as craps in Nevada.
It only took me about 1 minute to figure out how to play it.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
goatcabin
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September 22nd, 2010 at 8:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

Just because I personally dislike indian casino's, and I don't believe the "card craps" provides the same odds.



What is the basis for this disbelief? I am certain that the two methods I have experience with provide exactly the same probabilities as regualr dice.

Quote: TIMSPEED

The one at Barona was SIMILAR to Colusa.
They had 6 cards (A-6) at the top of the table (directly in front of the boxman) and each card represented a die facing. They placed these cards at the beginning of each "hand", as to determine the dice outcome.



Just one set of six cards? How did they "place" these cards. Can you describe the method in more detail, please?
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"

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