1. Put the money back into your gambling bankroll or for another trip to Las Vegas?
2. Use it to pay bills?
3. Buy something expensive to help you remember your day of glory in Las Vegas?
4. Strip clubs?
5. Triple your average bet?
6. Blow it trying to get a bigger win?
Most gamblers understand that they are expected to lose at casinos, so when they do the exact opposite and win, they go a little crazy! What would you do?
Quote: WizardMy answer is absolutely (2). It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up when I overhear somebody overbetting say they are doing so because it is just "the casino's money."
Although I absolutely agree, is the Wizard the only man alive who can't fall to temptation? On a bar graph I couldnt pick just one, #1 and #5 would have some pull if I was honest... at least for a portion of that money!
Bear in mind Gambling has less temptation for me than some, for example I have zero interest in slot machines.
Quote: WizardAs Susie Orman would say, paying your bills and paying down debt should always be the highest priority.
I am struggling to comprehend how that woman gets any respect from the Wizard [g]. Say it ain't so, Wiz!
On a win like this (3x bankroll) I have already discussed this with my wife. We would take 30% and put it into our regular accounts, and use it for vacation, home improvement, bills, whatever. The point being we would try to get something out of it.
However, when the craps account runs dry, it gets funded from the regular account, so when all is said and done, I guess that means I just end up funneling all of the winnings back to the casino. The only way not to do that would be to quit playing, and as long as I have spare change and am able to take a breath, I want to play craps, even when the game treats me like crap.
The hit was around $12,700. Our starting bankroll for the two of us was around $2,000!
We went to the cage, and got a check for around $11,000. The leftover was fun money for the next day, playing with higher bets, etc.
We didn't blow it all, but we certainly had some fun with it.
Maybe. He's also probably a lot closer to being a 'professional gambler' than the rest of us. That said, you can understand his point of view.Quote: odiousgambit....is the Wizard the only man alive who can't fall to temptation?
Quote: odiousgambitAlthough I absolutely agree, is the Wizard the only man alive who can't fall to temptation?
I admit I have a weakness for poker, and have a hard time getting up from a table even if I know it is a negative game, whether it be stronger opponents or the rake. I wrote about it in my May 10 blog entry.
Quote: odiousgambitI am struggling to comprehend how that woman gets any respect from the Wizard [g]. Say it ain't so, Wiz!
Well, I only know about her because my wife watches her sometimes. From what I've seen, I think her advice is very sound. At the risk of going off on a tangent, why the animosity towards Suze?
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Quote: WizardI admit I have a weakness for poker, and have a hard time getting up from a table even if I know it is a negative game, whether it be stronger opponents or the rake.
i can help you with your game if youd like. ive been playing poker for 7yrs now and am a frequent poster on 2+2. we can meet up at suncoast to play then discuss hands afterwards. they only have a $3 rake there plus a $1 highhand drop. 2/4lhe, 4/8lhe, and 2/5nlhe are their usual games. just send me an email if youre interested to that same address i sent you that "Horns" basic strategy chart from.
There's no way to know, but I suspect Megabucks winners throw back a couple thousand at least in a lot of cases.* (Megabucks being very unexpected I would say)
*but maybe that's just the way i think/
Quote: WizardWell, I only know about [Suze Orman] because my wife watches her sometimes. From what I've seen, I think her advice is very sound. At the risk of going off on a tangent, why the animosity towards Suze?
She reminds me of Dr. Phil, that is, someone of dubious qualification who gets propelled into fame by some mysterious mechanism related to fad. Queen of the obvious, capable of bad advice too. Apparently to be convinced of this you need only browse one of her books and get such solid advice as "pump your own gas to save money". And even "just pay the minimum on your credit cards" ... what???
Some links, the second one rails on the credit card advice:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/RetirementandWills/CreateaPlan/stop-listening-to-suze-orman.aspx?page=1
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Banking/CreditCardSmarts/why-suze-orman-is-wrong-again.aspx
As for a big win, while I'm still waiting for it to happen, I would do the following, which is what I do when I make a big score in my business: 25% savings, 25% pure fun, 50% debts/investments. The 25% savings generally goes toward future trips to Vegas, so it would fall in the category of gambling more. 25% pure fun is usually buying myself something that I don't necessarily need, but would like to have, like a new laptop, new tv, car stereo, expensive dinner, etc, etc.
Of course, I would buy the wife a little something special just to let her know that I love her.
Man, oh MAN, did that sound like an afterthought!Quote: gamblerOf course, I would buy the wife a little something special just to let her know that I love her.
Doghouse much?
When I gamble, I am playing with entertainment funds and the money won from gambling goes back into the entertainment fund. A loss represents a depletion of the fund. So any wins under 1K go back into the entertainment fund for a future trip or enhanced trip (we would add show tickets, get a better room, get better times on our flights, have better food, etc).
Now, if I do get a big win over $3K, it would probably go into savings.
I agree with the Wizard that debt management is more important than an emergency fund.
What I've actually done when I've won big is I've kept out an amount equal to my bankroll x2 (ie, if my original bankroll is $500, it is now $1000), and kept the rest to pay bills or for the vacation fund if there are no outstanding bills. If you look at my slots example from last week, you'll see that we set a loss limit before we went and popped the big bets; regardless of what happened, we were going home with at least $1600. We took the thrill chance, but we only used some of what we were up to do that. In this instance, we're going to Disney World in June, and the $$ we won is paying some of that.
Suppose you like to play craps and have a favorite betting pattern which applies at a $10 table. Suppose also that you happened to be at a crap table in Atlantic City on 5/23/09 when Patricia Demaura started rolling. Well after the fact, we know that she rolled the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes before the 7 came up at the wrong time. Had you been at the table, would you have maintained your same betting pattern and betting level all that time? Or would your good fortune (assuming you are a right bettor) have convinced you to up the stakes?
I believe that even a cheapskate like me would have wound up betting a good bit higher than usual.
Quote: DocI guess I have a question for folks who do not feel a win should increase one's wagering, or perhaps that it doesn't affect theirs. My example is not really for a single big jackpot win, but for a very good winning session.
Suppose you like to play craps and have a favorite betting pattern which applies at a $10 table. Suppose also that you happened to be at a crap table in Atlantic City on 5/23/09 when Patricia Demaura started rolling. Well after the fact, we know that she rolled the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes before the 7 came up at the wrong time. Had you been at the table, would you have maintained your same betting pattern and betting level all that time? Or would your good fortune (assuming you are a right bettor) have convinced you to up the stakes?
I believe that even a cheapskate like me would have wound up betting a good bit higher than usual.
If you were betting the minimum I assume people would have crowded you off the table. No matter how irrational, I would assume you would get swept up in the enthusiasm.
I went to Reno on a solo trip and ended up way up for the weekend. All in all, I spent $5000 on VP and BJ and brought home $20,000!
It got to the point that I ended up asking for checks when I hit a W2G jackpot rather than cash!
What did I do with the extra winnings?
Paid off two credit cards and am sending my husband to bowling camp for 3 days! The rest went back into my gambling bankroll.
Last fall, I brought home $8000 from a similar trip to Reno. In that instance, we bought new living room furniture and our first HD flat screen tv. It was a lovely Christmas!
In general, when I get overly large returns on my gambling, I try to do something with at least part of the money that I have been wanting to do but could not justify spending the money on, as in the furniture and the new tv, or I pay off at least one outstanding bill. I never apply the entire amount of the win to non gambling activities but I do apply some of the win. The rest goes back into my gambling bankroll for my next trip.
Just my 2cents worth.
2) Pay off debt.
Quote: DJTeddyBear30 minutes and you're already done?
Yeah, no foreplay or cuddling, so I think I could accomplish my bullet list in 30 mins. Plus, I have a lot of debt.
Quote: WizardYou should add a bar graph poll to this one. My answer is absolutely (2). It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up when I overhear somebody overbetting say they are doing so because it is just "the casino's money." Once you win something that money is no different than money earned. As Susie Orman would say, paying your bills and paying down debt should always be the highest priority.
100% agree. If I win ten dollars and put it back into a machine, I'm playing with MY money and not the casino's. I could have hit Subway for a pair of foot-longs instead. If you win a huge jackpot then you do what's best for you: Pay down bills if you have them, or buy something you've wanted but didn't want to put out for over a period of time. The one thing you should not do is pretend you have a larger gambling bankroll.
Wizard I'm new here, so what does your by-line mean? For a stab I take issue with the first part because as a gambler my only goal is to win some money. If I lose I failed, if I win I succeeeded. That is all that matters is it not? What's the 2nd part mean? I wouldn't play anything if I didn't think I had a chance of winning, i.e., it being a "good bet".
Thanks.
I don't want to be thought of as the big sinner in this forum but I would definitely blow $500 or $1000 at the Spearmint Rhino. All in $20 dances from different girls, so you get the most for your money.
Quote: rudeboyoiI would invest half of it in low risk mutual funds and then take the other half over to my friend Asadulah who works in securities
HAHAHA how did this not get any responses?? Best movie ever.
When I want gambling money, I take some.
If I need a few grand to pay a contractor, I grab it.
In the end of course, I'll give it all back to the casinos, with interest.
As will we all.
Quote: EvenBob7. Bail Jerry Logan out of jail. Again.
Bob, Bob, Bob... why would you waste good money after bad?
Quote: thecesspitBob, Bob, Bob... why would you waste good money after bad?
Sigh...........
Quote: WizardI admit I have a weakness for poker, and have a hard time getting up from a table even if I know it is a negative game, whether it be stronger opponents or the rake. I wrote about it in my May 10 blog entry.
Quote: odiousgambitI am struggling to comprehend how that woman gets any respect from the Wizard [g]. Say it ain't so, Wiz!
Well, I only know about her because my wife watches her sometimes. From what I've seen, I think her advice is very sound. At the risk of going off on a tangent, why the animosity towards Suze?
Poker is interesting because for a few players it can be positive expectation game but for most players do to the rake it is a negative expectation game.
Casinos are in business mainly because most people can not manage their bankrolls and winnings/losings well. People expect to lose when they walk into a casino. They hope to win a large amount of money usually with a fraction of what they walk in with. In other words, a 25% gain would be laughable to most because they want to make a 300% or 500% etc return. That is not in your favor. How many times have you been up 25% or 50%? Probably a good portion of your times. Then even if you do get to say triple your money... for anyone to say that they are now playing with the house's money is absolutely stupid. If you win it and it is in your hands... its your money! You must walk away when you are up. Be realistic. And make sure you cash out lots of single dollar bills for the strip joints!
Congrats! Still waiting for one of those...Quote: chefphydeauxHad this very thing happen today. Turn/Rivered a Royal at UTH, with 5$ on each Trips and blind bets, for a 2750$ win. Starting session money was 250. I got my check and left. 500$ goes to bankroll, 200 takes the dogs to groomers, 50 on dinner for me and the remainder pays off bills. Completely wipes out 4 small credit cards with various balances and my remaining student loan balances. It will be nice to not have to write those checks in March!
1) tip the dealer graciously
2) share the wealth with your friends who are on the trip with you and gambling just as much (i.e. buy em all a nice steak dinner)
3) seperate the money to use on your next trip to vegas.