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egalite
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December 28th, 2013 at 7:06:06 AM permalink
PPPPPPPPP
BBB
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BBBBBBBB
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Remarkable for a shoe from a shuffling machine.

Three very young Chinese players (early 20's), betting the table max $75,000 per hand and following the runs. No idea what they pulled from this shoe on their private table, they did have about $2.5M in $100,000 plaques when they told the casino to hold the shoe for tomorrow night.

Staggering, I've never seen this amount of money in play, or held by punters. Casino management all in a tiff after they quit, truly wonderful with a capital W.
EvenBob
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December 28th, 2013 at 11:18:05 AM permalink
Pure luck, no bet selection. They'll lose it all
back next time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
Beethoven9th
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December 28th, 2013 at 11:22:45 AM permalink
I didn't know gr8 was a young Chinese guy?
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egalite
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December 28th, 2013 at 12:52:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Pure luck, no bet selection. They'll lose it all
back next time.

Their bet selection was FLD, people who know them said, they've never seen them bet so heavy. So they might come to their senses and not bet so big when they return. I was trying to figure out if it was the same Chinese guy who made 60k on Friday on the low roller table inside 20 mins. Somebody walks up to table, bet's 10k on Bank, Banker wins so he parlay's and hits a double win. Then increase to the table max of 25k, win again, lose bet 25k (again FLD), one or two wins more and they are 60k up. Table can't pay him as they don't carry enough large chips. When they eventually sort him out, he walks off booking a private table for later and all you hear is the bosses moaning, "we got hit for 60k", "we".

Nope it wasn't GR8, I've heard a murmur he's been forced to polish up on his cooking skills.
gr8player
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December 28th, 2013 at 2:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

PPPPPPPPP
BBB
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BBBBBBBB
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Remarkable for a shoe from a shuffling machine.



Nothing very "remarkable" about it, just a rather streaky portion of a shoe. Play this game enough years, you come to see it all.

What'll serve to define us as Bac players is our reactions to the current results.....
EvenBob
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December 28th, 2013 at 3:19:48 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

and all you hear is the bosses moaning, "we got hit for 60k", "we".



It's drilled into their heads that it's 'their'
money too, their job is to keep the money
in the casino.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
egalite
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December 28th, 2013 at 7:26:10 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Nothing very "remarkable" about it, just a rather streaky portion of a shoe. Play this game enough years, you come to see it all.

What'll serve to define us as Bac players is our reactions to the current results.....

You don't know what your talking about. Those casino's that utilize the table shuffling machines that sink into the table, you don't see this. Also when it the last time you rubbed shoulders with a punter with $2.5M in plaques. I'm pretty sure you would have gotten their undivided attention had you been there.
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December 28th, 2013 at 8:31:02 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Beethoven9th
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December 28th, 2013 at 9:29:06 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Nope it wasn't GR8, I've heard a murmur he's been forced to polish up on his cooking skills.


Do tell. :)
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December 28th, 2013 at 11:02:32 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Their bet selection was FLD,.

FLD ??????
EvenBob
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December 29th, 2013 at 12:43:08 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

FLD ??????



Jesus, newbie. FLD means you follow the last
outcome. If it was banker, bet banker again.
Please try and stay tuned in..
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December 29th, 2013 at 6:29:05 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

FLD ??????



Follow Last Dealt. 'Bet selection' is fancy term for 'system' or 'method'.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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December 29th, 2013 at 12:45:29 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Follow Last Dealt. 'Bet selection' is fancy term for 'system' or 'method'.



I guess FLD would be considered bet selection,
although it's totally meaningless. It fails exactly
as often as it succeeds. They just got lucky and
used it at the right moment.
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egalite
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December 30th, 2013 at 1:02:26 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Do tell. :)

Via PM
egalite
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December 30th, 2013 at 1:03:41 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I guess FLD would be considered bet selection,
although it's totally meaningless. It fails exactly
as often as it succeeds. They just got lucky and
used it at the right moment.

Yes and at $75,000k per hand.
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December 30th, 2013 at 5:28:11 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Jesus, newbie. FLD means you follow the last outcome. If it was banker, bet banker again.



FLD FOLD
FIELD
Follow Last Dealt
Follow Last Decision
Follow Last Outcome

Okay. A decision system that wins on long trends and loses on short trends or whipsawing action.

>Please try and stay tuned in..
We Mass Murderers have problems that way.
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December 30th, 2013 at 5:31:58 AM permalink
Quote: egalite

Via PM



oh that is just no fair. :-(
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gr8player
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December 30th, 2013 at 8:18:16 AM permalink
Quote: egalite

Those casino's that utilize the table shuffling machines that sink into the table, you don't see this.



I play exclusively in AC and CT, and all you'll see there at their mini-bac tables are those same shuffling machines. And trust me, your posted example of a dominate FLD-trending portion of a shoe is not so very out of the ordinary. I track OLD v FLD and OTBL v TBL, so I'm rather familiar with their respective extremes regarding their variances, and the +19 FLD in your example, while certainly not the norm, is nowhere near "remarkable". I've recently tracked a +33 on the OTBL side at a table in AC (might've gone higher, but I had hit my win goal and left the table at that apex).

That is the very reason that I developed my mode of play, the variance "extremes". You see, one cannot build any successful mode of play around P v B, OLD v FLD, or OTBL v TBL because their variances are much too broad to prove advantageous for any serious Bac player.

One would be much better served to select a couple of plays whose strike rates are better than 50% (don't have to be by much) and whose variances are relatively "tight". Then wrap a matching money-management plan around that, and, my friend, you've now become G.O.L.D.E.N......
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December 30th, 2013 at 1:09:17 PM permalink
Hey GR8, you mentioned on this site you are on call due to your executive sales position. If so, how come you have to hire a car to get to AC? Don't the company you work for provide a vehicle, or aren't you allowed to drive so far in it? Seems a bit weird to be on-call yet left to your own cognence to get where you need to be, should the case arise.

Please save the sermons for those in need or those who want to listen. I picked up over $5k today, not counting the prior 12 winning sessions and single small loss (1.5k). Currently I'm holed up at Jupiters on the Gold Coast, been here since mid Dec, here until Mid Jan, then off to Star City in Sydney, all expenses paid for via casino points, not costing me a single cent. I play this game for a living, it is my bread and butter, no other income, I don't need to hear your gamblers fallacies or beliefs Walter.
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January 10th, 2014 at 10:02:19 PM permalink
Hey Peter Keating, don't feel so cocky now? LOL.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/16436-going-on-tilt-and-losing-regaining-heart-seeking-a-good-read/

"After what was a very successful Baccarat jaunt on the Gold Coast, I was playing at a extremely slow table which was severely screwing my head, the combination of the card squeezing, being continually giving duff cards to open such as a "three side and no side" which turned out to be an 8 and an 3 or a 7 and 4 or BJ (wrong table), the totally inapt slow dealer was getting to me. My final lost bet of 500 was placed on the wrong side (shit happens). So I hot trot to the VIP area for a fast recoup and got well and truly nailed.

That was a crazy situation with a pit boss gawping from one side and another staff member grinning from the other, I spoke up and said "what the fuck is going, would you like a seat", so the pit boss told the staff member to find something to do, which invited comments from the dealer who was loving every minute of my demise and melt down, something that doesn't happen often but can happen.

Licking my wounds, I now find myself in the situation of having to do it all over again, Not entirely fazed by that, because I've done it many times in the past, grinding out 20k per month, yet I find it so mentally draining to be so far ahead and having to restart all over. My question to veteran board members, it there any decent literature on the web, book recommendations that deal with these rare and unfortunate aspects of gambling."

http://postimg.org/image/gcdq0zt9l/ and http://postimg.org/image/4yt30w1fx/
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January 15th, 2014 at 10:30:21 PM permalink
I often buck up against machine shuffled, eight deck shoes and that particular sequence is not at all out of the ordinary. But, I guess if a cat don't actually play the game, much, he might think that sequence unusual, hey hey.
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January 16th, 2014 at 7:38:09 AM permalink
There you go, Soxster; spot-on.

Egalite/Johno/Carlo/Scambuster1 doesn't fool you, I, D-man, and most others who've been exposed to his blatant lies.

The man supposedly has played for years yet that bit of FLD threw him for a loop??? C'mon, man....

Who does lap it up are those of the same ilk, those prone to....how can I say this nicely?...."exaggeration". Raise your hand, EvenBob/Spike.

Alas, poor EvenBob, it appears that they're getting "hip" to his baloney 'round these parts, as well. It was, after all, only a matter of time.
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January 21st, 2014 at 6:20:54 PM permalink
I sure do hope that the john-O comes back cuz that is one entertaining cat, I must say, hey hey.
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January 21st, 2014 at 8:42:41 PM permalink
He is at baccaratlabs posting as Marion asking about how to play those sucker side bets like he did in here not long ago. The kiddies over there seem to be more receptive to his inquiries. Maybe drop by over there and say hi? LOL.

Carlo-Johno-Scambuster1-Sting-bigbadjohn and a host of others and now Marion.

No matter what Peter Keating goes by you can definitely find his MO miles away.

Really hope he shows up in here. It is hilarious seeing how everyone gangs up on him and his replies is to inject further exaggerations thus leading to more intense scrutiny instead of putting out the flames.
rob45
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January 22nd, 2014 at 2:58:40 AM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

He is at baccaratlabs posting as Marion asking about how to play those sucker side bets like he did in here not long ago. The kiddies over there seem to be more receptive to his inquiries. Maybe drop by over there and say hi? LOL.


Are you implying that those who responded to his inquiries here (regarding the side bets) are "kiddies"?
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January 22nd, 2014 at 3:58:18 PM permalink
LOL. No. Over at baccaratlabs. Folks there are actually answering his question instead of skinning/grilling him here which is hilarious in its own very way.
StandOff
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May 23rd, 2014 at 5:43:16 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Hey Peter Keating, don't feel so cocky now? LOL.


"After what was a very successful Baccarat jaunt on the Gold Coast, I was playing at a extremely slow table which was severely screwing my head, the combination of the card squeezing, being continually giving duff cards to open such as a "three side and no side" which turned out to be an 8 and an 3 or a 7 and 4 or BJ (wrong table), the totally inapt slow dealer was getting to me. My final lost bet of 500 was placed on the wrong side (shit happens). So I hot trot to the VIP area for a fast recoup and got well and truly nailed.

That was a crazy situation with a pit boss gawping from one side and another staff member grinning from the other, I spoke up and said "what the fuck is going, would you like a seat", so the pit boss told the staff member to find something to do, which invited comments from the dealer who was loving every minute of my demise and melt down, something that doesn't happen often but can happen.

Licking my wounds, I now find myself in the situation of having to do it all over again, Not entirely fazed by that, because I've done it many times in the past, grinding out 20k per month, yet I find it so mentally draining to be so far ahead and having to restart all over. My question to veteran board members, it there any decent literature on the web, book recommendations that deal with these rare and unfortunate aspects of gambling."

and

Those links you posted DMSCR from the defunct BF site, (pretty sure it is not the first time you have posted them,hmm guessed right, you sure like to emphasize your vindictive nature)

What this member of the Wizard of Vegas board fails to mention were his reponses to a genuine question posted by the famous Egalite. Such as "Egailte die of cancer you fat f**k", "Egailte is dying can't sleep" and on and on it went.

Now all of this doesn't matter, because DMSCR didn't make these vile and heinous comments on this site, it is a bit like some SS guard responsible for the murder of Jews being told, "he didn't commit the crimes in Amerika so it doesn't count.

Yes quite understandable.

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May 23rd, 2014 at 6:26:19 PM permalink
Ive learned not to talk systems here but there is one betting strategy that would have made me a fortune on this shoe
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May 23rd, 2014 at 6:28:44 PM permalink
Time to break out the Guinness and cashews, again, hey hey!
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May 23rd, 2014 at 6:31:43 PM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Ive learned not to talk systems here but there is one betting strategy that would have made me a fortune on this shoe



Yeah, for every shoe, there is one betting strategy that will make you a fortune. If only you knew what cards were going to come up before you bet!! It would make gambling so much better...
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May 24th, 2014 at 12:18:24 AM permalink
Somebody once told me that when a banker/player run happens many Chinese gamblers come out of nowhere to bet very high. I just assumed they were guys cashing their entire paycheck to play on the table, but it turns out a lot of these guys are "bankrolled" by syndicates who put them in action on a hot shoe. Either way the syndicate gets the juice.... and it starts running as soon as you can't pay.
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May 24th, 2014 at 5:16:53 AM permalink
Good to see Johno back here, if only for one post.
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:08:03 AM permalink
I spoke too soon.......
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:08:19 AM permalink
Hi DeMango, yassu Micheal

In the interest in fairness and balance, despite DMSCR trying to shed his grub antics, here is a snippet of the PM's he has sent (there are more vile ones one in the deleted accounts inboxes).

From: DMSCR
To: egalite
Date Sent: January 11, 2014 8:49 pm


LOL. Yeah sure Peter Keating. And I am going to buy that bridge from you. You sound like senlung. Maybe you are senlung!

Temper temper there Peter. Well better keep that cash on handy since chemotherapy is quite costly. And all that adult diapers you are going to wear when they drill that third asshole for that colon cancer you are going to get. Well other folks don't give a shit about forums but you do! Who cares what you know. The only thing that I know (well everyone knows) is that you lose more and you make shit up to feel better.

Whatcha gonna do champ? Call me up like Archer and start threatening yours truly? Spend all your days roaming around the web looking for my private info like you did Archer? Yeah go and call me at 1-800-Go-Fuck-Yourself.

I am still reveling at your losses. And more to come. Now that is a guarantee.

Sick in the head? Yeah go look in the mirror ya mental hersey squirt.


From: DMSCR
To: egalite
Date Sent: January 10, 2014 5:17 pm


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

If it is any other person I would be more than happy to divulge what needs to be done since I know what books and sites to read up on. Given that it is a fat smoking degenerate like yourself who is most probably going to develop colon or lung cancer or maybe hopefully both, me helping you in any way..... nah I am just going to throw it.

What I achieved within 16 minutes at that baccarat table at the Encore after that hooker is more than what you will ever achieve at the tables and in life. LOL. Plus the money I make I keep and would not be giving at back many times over and cry on the internet for help like a pathetic parasite pan handler like yourself. Look at all the folks in here laughing at you. Pages and pages of laughter. LOL.

Keep it up squirt. I enjoy seeing you curl up in bankroll draw down pain. I don't know maybe go play with the crumbs (TV and Dr. Dre headphones) that the casinos throw at you so you can always come back for more of a beating.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

"Licking my wounds, I now find myself in the situation of having to do it all over again, Not entirely fazed by that, because I've done it many times in the past, grinding out 20k per month, yet I find it so mentally draining to be so far ahead and having to restart all over. My question to veteran board members, it there any decent literature on the web, book recommendations that deal with these rare and unfortunate aspects of gambling."

I definitely have a couple of solutions and resources to counter what you are experiencing since I have been in your shoes in my first two years. Yet now I have over come them. Given that you have been at this for what? +8 years which is way more than my time at baccarat and you are asking this? You are still an amateur. Given how your sleep patterns are probably going out of whack I am reveling at your own demise. LOL.

Keep it up.
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:12:58 AM permalink
StandOff has been suspended, nuclear option, for multiple accounts, trolling, personal insult.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:13:25 AM permalink
PeteKeating has been suspended, nuclear option, for multiple accounts, trolling, personal insult.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:14:11 AM permalink
Hoover Dam, red already! He didn't last five minutes! Not enough time for those cashews and Guinness!
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:16:53 AM permalink
Yeah, I think there's a psychic connection <shudder>. I caught StandOff last night within 5 minutes, though I didn't post in this thread about it at the time. This one, I think he had 3, maybe less. Sigh.
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May 24th, 2014 at 6:58:41 AM permalink
Well he should post a little earlier in the day assuming he's in the UK. Get in at least an hour or two. I'm sure there is a backlog of material across the pond!
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May 24th, 2014 at 9:43:48 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Well he should post a little earlier in the day assuming he's in the UK. Get in at least an hour or two. I'm sure there is a backlog of material across the pond!


any changes rearranges after the 'StandOff'!!

If I wanted to last for more than 5 mins, I wouldn't keep on exposing the grub
DMSCR, but hey it keeps the mods busy, hope they are getting paid???

DMSCR really enjoys me getting nuked; as he sends his congratulations each time.

Quote:

Ka-boom!
From: DMSCR
To: evoque
Date Sent: April 18, 2014 10:00 pm
LOL. Enjoy that ban. Yet I am sure you will be back in no time

From: DMSCR
To: GodofBACC
Date Sent: April 19, 2014 2:05 am
You better not get yourself banned this time GodofBACC!

Whoops I mean egalite.



What happened to this boards policy of trolling, all out harassment (gloating), double standards when it suits?
If bad mouthing, vile insults are okay so long as not on this site, does that mean I can laugh at Michael's issues with a Cypriot bank eleswhere, yet would be welcomed, so long as I don't repeat it here? Same situation isnít it.

Yes it is Micko's board, but being severely insulted elsewhere, it was allowed to continue here at the WoV, to the point of explosion, I get banned and the guilty swine gets a free pass!! The purpose of my continued re-appearance is to expose member DMSCR for the vile spastic that he really is.

Time to run, I can feel my ass heating up

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