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June 18th, 2025 at 12:40:48 PM
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Hello everyone,
After several years of dedicated research, our team is ready to share an important milestone. We have constructed and successfully tested a multi-system scientific framework that, in our extensive simulations and practical applications, has demonstrated the ability to consistently extract edge from the game of baccarat.
This is not about betting progression, card counting, or psychological tricks. It's a mathematically grounded approach — the result of deep research into randomness, entropy, and structural behavior within finite outcome sequences.
We call it:
> 🎴 ARAS+ V2 — Advanced Randomness-Analysis System Plus, Version 2
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### 🧠 Core Theoretical Foundations
#### ✅ 1. Non-i.i.d. Assumption
We reject the standard assumption that baccarat outcomes are fully independent and identically distributed (i.i.d.). In reality, finite shoe constraints, shuffle imperfections, and operational variance introduce structural irregularities into the sequence.
#### ✅ 2. Sliding Window Entropy Analysis
Using real-time sliding windows, we compute and track Shannon entropy over the outcome sequence, seeking signals of entropy *collapse* — transitions from disorder to temporary structural order.
#### ✅ 3. CME Module — Concentration Measure Entropy
Inspired by Talagrand-type concentration inequalities, our CME module measures the statistical *tightness* of entropy distributions to determine whether an observed entropy drop is genuinely significant — not merely random fluctuation.
#### ✅ 4. EDGE — Evolutionary Decision and Risk Framework
A strategic module that coordinates multiple subsystems, evaluates signal overlaps, manages capital exposure, and avoids overfitting or over-trading by enforcing logical consistency across subsystems.
#### ✅ 5. Dual Signal Engine:
- S-EDT (Structural Entropy Drop Trigger System): Detects sudden transitions from high entropy to low entropy — often indicative of exploitable structural order — and initiates counter-trend positions.
- M-MTP (Momentum Turning-Point Deviation System): Identifies key turning points in developing trends, measuring whether the current state deviates sufficiently from statistical expectations to justify trend-following actions.
#### ✅ 6. Supporting Modules:
- SEDA (Structural Entropy Dynamic Arbitrage): Analyzes the "entropy-energy" flow in the evolution of the sequence;
- Stochastic Regression System: Identifies temporary deviations likely to revert to the main trajectory;
- Weighted Reverse-Chase System: Calculates the credibility of a reversal scenario before executing any contrarian action.
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### ❗Why We’re Sharing This
We are not selling this system, nor will we publish its operational core. The reason is simple: public release would invite casino countermeasures, irresponsible duplication, and long-term deterioration of signal quality.
Instead, we’re making this post to say one thing to serious gamblers and mathematical thinkers:
> 💬 Baccarat is not perfectly random. If you look at it through the right lens, it can be beaten — and we've proven that.
We're happy to discuss theoretical aspects, such as:
- Entropy and anomaly detection in finite-length sequences;
- The limitations of the i.i.d. model in real-world dealing/shuffling;
- Practical interpretations of concentration inequalities in gaming.
Thank you for reading,
— ARAS+ System Development Team
After several years of dedicated research, our team is ready to share an important milestone. We have constructed and successfully tested a multi-system scientific framework that, in our extensive simulations and practical applications, has demonstrated the ability to consistently extract edge from the game of baccarat.
This is not about betting progression, card counting, or psychological tricks. It's a mathematically grounded approach — the result of deep research into randomness, entropy, and structural behavior within finite outcome sequences.
We call it:
> 🎴 ARAS+ V2 — Advanced Randomness-Analysis System Plus, Version 2
---
### 🧠 Core Theoretical Foundations
#### ✅ 1. Non-i.i.d. Assumption
We reject the standard assumption that baccarat outcomes are fully independent and identically distributed (i.i.d.). In reality, finite shoe constraints, shuffle imperfections, and operational variance introduce structural irregularities into the sequence.
#### ✅ 2. Sliding Window Entropy Analysis
Using real-time sliding windows, we compute and track Shannon entropy over the outcome sequence, seeking signals of entropy *collapse* — transitions from disorder to temporary structural order.
#### ✅ 3. CME Module — Concentration Measure Entropy
Inspired by Talagrand-type concentration inequalities, our CME module measures the statistical *tightness* of entropy distributions to determine whether an observed entropy drop is genuinely significant — not merely random fluctuation.
#### ✅ 4. EDGE — Evolutionary Decision and Risk Framework
A strategic module that coordinates multiple subsystems, evaluates signal overlaps, manages capital exposure, and avoids overfitting or over-trading by enforcing logical consistency across subsystems.
#### ✅ 5. Dual Signal Engine:
- S-EDT (Structural Entropy Drop Trigger System): Detects sudden transitions from high entropy to low entropy — often indicative of exploitable structural order — and initiates counter-trend positions.
- M-MTP (Momentum Turning-Point Deviation System): Identifies key turning points in developing trends, measuring whether the current state deviates sufficiently from statistical expectations to justify trend-following actions.
#### ✅ 6. Supporting Modules:
- SEDA (Structural Entropy Dynamic Arbitrage): Analyzes the "entropy-energy" flow in the evolution of the sequence;
- Stochastic Regression System: Identifies temporary deviations likely to revert to the main trajectory;
- Weighted Reverse-Chase System: Calculates the credibility of a reversal scenario before executing any contrarian action.
---
### ❗Why We’re Sharing This
We are not selling this system, nor will we publish its operational core. The reason is simple: public release would invite casino countermeasures, irresponsible duplication, and long-term deterioration of signal quality.
Instead, we’re making this post to say one thing to serious gamblers and mathematical thinkers:
> 💬 Baccarat is not perfectly random. If you look at it through the right lens, it can be beaten — and we've proven that.
We're happy to discuss theoretical aspects, such as:
- Entropy and anomaly detection in finite-length sequences;
- The limitations of the i.i.d. model in real-world dealing/shuffling;
- Practical interpretations of concentration inequalities in gaming.
Thank you for reading,
— ARAS+ System Development Team
June 18th, 2025 at 2:40:18 PM
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Let me pop up a whole bunch of popcorn to eat while watching all the replies your about to get :) This will be fun :)
June 18th, 2025 at 4:00:40 PM
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Quote: noah
This is not about betting progression, card counting, or psychological tricks. It's a mathematically grounded approach
LOL
a mathematically grounded approach that we won't share because we don't want anyone to prove us wrong.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
June 18th, 2025 at 5:07:10 PM
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No, baccarat is not perfectly random. Aside from quantum and thermal (but I repeat myself) phenomena, nothing is.
The only information we have about a baccarat shoe is the cards we have seen dealt from it. Can you explain how that tells us anything about the entropy of the remainder of the shoe?
The only information we have about a baccarat shoe is the cards we have seen dealt from it. Can you explain how that tells us anything about the entropy of the remainder of the shoe?
June 18th, 2025 at 6:50:17 PM
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Two questions come to mind.
- Does your system call for placing bets other thank Player / Banker / Tie?
- How much of a bet spread is required?
- Does your system call for placing bets other thank Player / Banker / Tie?
- How much of a bet spread is required?
May the cards fall in your favor.
June 18th, 2025 at 9:47:55 PM
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U are like a frog in a well
June 18th, 2025 at 9:51:53 PM
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We can reorganize the results of baccarat that have already been revealed into a structure, and use this new structural representation to describe the entropy situation.
June 18th, 2025 at 9:57:16 PM
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This is a complex system, so I can only tell you that tie is not included. And the requirement for capital is very low.
June 18th, 2025 at 10:04:08 PM
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Quote: noahWe can reorganize the results of baccarat that have already been revealed into a structure, and use this new structural representation to describe the entropy situation.
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So let's say the next 4 card in the shoe are either 2-2-6-7 (banker win) or 2-2-7-6 (player win). The composition of the rest of the shoe is the same in either case. What does one outcome or the other tell you about the entropy of the shoe?
I can tell you what effect removing those 4 cards will have on the edge of all the bets on the table. But that's card counting, that's old news. I now know the composition of the remainder of the shoe. But you're claiming this isn't a card counting method, but the only other information you have about this shoe is the order in which those cards were dealt. So how can the order of the dealt cards, and the game result they lead to, tell you anything about not the composition, but the order of the undealt cards and thus the game results when those cards are dealt?
June 18th, 2025 at 10:36:44 PM
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I have already said that the point value of a tie has no relevance. I haven’t studied the impact of point values on Banker or Player because many people have already researched it, and the influence of card point values on Banker or Player is very small, making it impractical for real-world use. So, this is a completely new