Evenbobs Baccarat Thread

Big news for me. I'm phasing out my playing of the other game, the one that I cannot discuss anymore, and moving over to playing bacc. I have always actually preferred this game but it's not offered in very many of the casinos I go to locally and when it is it's a $25 minimum. I used to play a lot of this game at Four Wind.s Casino in 2008 with my wife because the minimum bet at minibac was $5 and it allowed me to sit and play in between making the bigger bets when it was playing my game. My wife would copy my bet and she would always bet the Dragon which I never did because it's a sucker bet. But I was winning so often that she won quite a few dragons and we were a few thousand dollars ahead by the end of the summer. What screwed it up for me and soured me on the game was they treated certain players with tremendous prejudice in their favor and let them do things that they would not let me and my wife do. I finally got fed up with it and quit playing. I always did really well playing this game and since they made online gambling legal in my state I don't know why I've ignored it. But since they apparently have blocked me from making bets at one casino I have decided to change my game.

I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it. They expect you to have runs of good luck and in the other game that I cannot discuss anymore the house edge is so high that they really don't expect you to win. And the amount of money bet on bacc is so ridiculously high, even online, that if you're a small fish player I don't think they're even going to notice you. At a couple of these casinos they show you how much money has been bet on every hand and sometimes it's 25 or $30,000. So if you're playing for 10 or 15 or $20 you're going to fall through the cracks.

I've been playing all this week and have not had a losing session yet. There are times when, just like the other game, I cannot bet because there's nothing to bet on. One thing I like is this game is discussed different places where they actually talk about bet selection which is something nobody ever does for the other game. And this isn't a rare occurrence, the shoe going completely cold. It just produces nonsense. On one game I was virtually betting and I lost 13 in a row which I don't think I could do on purpose in the other game if I tried. I consider this to be a very good thing, because it makes the good shoes easy to spot and the bad shoes even easier. Right now I'm just playing for minimum amounts to get a feel for it but whenever I played this game in the past in brick and mortar Casino I always did well basically playing the same game of patterns and trends that I played in the other game. I'm kind of excited about this because I really like this game, it has a certain amount of strategy attached to it and people get excited when they play it. We'll see how it goes but I'm extremely hopeful.

At more than one Casino I've gone in and sat down at an empty table and told the dealer I'm going to win 10 units and leave and I did it, I won 10 units and I left. At one of the casinos the dealer told me, she said don't do that don't tell me what you're going to do before you do it because it'll do nothing but get you in trouble. She said they pinch the dollar around here like they're not going to print anymore and if they think you have some kind of advantage they'll never stop watching you. But I didn't care because it wasn't my game I was just doing it to have fun. But she's right that's a really stupid thing to do. I would also play bacc when my wife and I were staying overnight at the casino and I was drinking and even then I did well. I remember at an Indian casino up north I talked them into opening a closed table and they did it and I won $250 in about an hour as I was throwing down vodka drinks and they were not happy with me at all. I wonder what they thought, because I was half drunk and I wasn't even trying but the shoe was just so good all I could do was win. Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.

Bacc seems to be the new thing. Asians play it at all hours of the day and night. And for big cash. I need to learn more about it as it seems like you mostly bet Banker all night which is kind of one step removed from a slot machine.

The more things change.........

Quote: EvenBob

I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it.
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That shouldn't be the reason to switch, but that baccarat has a lower house advantage. No casino is going to sweat over losing $250 or "ten units" in either game.

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Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.

Can we interpret this to mean your secret is more of a betting system as opposed to a psychic ability?

Quote: AZDuffman

Bacc seems to be the new thing. Asians play it at all hours of the day and night. And for big cash. I need to learn more about it as it seems like you mostly bet Banker all night which is kind of one step removed from a slot machine.
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Not really a very good strategy when you consider that a huge number of shoes trend mostly player. In the long run Banker will hit more often but depending on that to happen in the shoe that you're playing is kind of a long shot.

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Quote: EvenBob

I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it.
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That shouldn't be the reason to switch, but that baccarat has a lower house advantage. No casino is going to sweat over losing $250 or "ten units" in either game.

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Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.

Can we interpret this to mean your secret is more of a betting system as opposed to a psychic ability?
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You would be surprised at how many smaller Indian casinos sweat every dollar. And betting with the trend is hardly a secret, why would you bet against it. If you bet with the trend you can only lose one time, it's just common sense. I've told the story a dozen times here and I'm going to tell it again. I was in Vegas 15 years ago and there's 12 Reds showing on the Marquee and this guy comes running up pulling his luggage behind him because he was just checking in and he bets $100 on black, he bets against the trend. Then he Martingales his $1,500 bankroll and it came up red every time. He looked like a balloon that somebody let all the air out of. Why would you bet black when the wheel is obviously giving you all reds for God knows how long. Maybe it was the last one but you're only going to lose once either way. It's like if it was raining $20 gold pieces and you turned your hat over to catch them, why would you stop doing that until it stopped raining.

There is a huge advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino because the tables are usually crowded and there's no more chairs and you have to be actually playing the game, betting on every hand. If you're not betting they're not going to let you sit there because there's somebody that wants your chair. Online I can do whatever I want, I could even watch three shoes at once.

Stadium baccarat - with wagers accepted on a terminal - is often not particularly crowded, and you can sit out if you don't like the look of things.

The Four Winds property I frequented (before my travel was rudely curtailed) had a number of stadium games, but I don't recall if baccarat was on the list.

Quote: EvenBob

Big news for me. I'm phasing out my playing of the other game, the one that I cannot discuss anymore, and moving over to playing bacc. I have always actually preferred this game but it's not offered in very many of the casinos I go to locally and when it is it's a $25 minimum. I used to play a lot of this game at Four Wind.s Casino in 2008 with my wife because the minimum bet at minibac was $5 and it allowed me to sit and play in between making the bigger bets when it was playing my game. My wife would copy my bet and she would always bet the Dragon which I never did because it's a sucker bet. But I was winning so often that she won quite a few dragons and we were a few thousand dollars ahead by the end of the summer. What screwed it up for me and soured me on the game was they treated certain players with tremendous prejudice in their favor and let them do things that they would not let me and my wife do. I finally got fed up with it and quit playing. I always did really well playing this game and since they made online gambling legal in my state I don't know why I've ignored it. But since they apparently have blocked me from making bets at one casino I have decided to change my game.

I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it. They expect you to have runs of good luck and in the other game that I cannot discuss anymore the house edge is so high that they really don't expect you to win. And the amount of money bet on bacc is so ridiculously high, even online, that if you're a small fish player I don't think they're even going to notice you. At a couple of these casinos they show you how much money has been bet on every hand and sometimes it's 25 or $30,000. So if you're playing for 10 or 15 or $20 you're going to fall through the cracks.

I've been playing all this week and have not had a losing session yet. There are times when, just like the other game, I cannot bet because there's nothing to bet on. One thing I like is this game is discussed different places where they actually talk about bet selection which is something nobody ever does for the other game. And this isn't a rare occurrence, the shoe going completely cold. It just produces nonsense. On one game I was virtually betting and I lost 13 in a row which I don't think I could do on purpose in the other game if I tried. I consider this to be a very good thing, because it makes the good shoes easy to spot and the bad shoes even easier. Right now I'm just playing for minimum amounts to get a feel for it but whenever I played this game in the past in brick and mortar Casino I always did well basically playing the same game of patterns and trends that I played in the other game. I'm kind of excited about this because I really like this game, it has a certain amount of strategy attached to it and people get excited when they play it. We'll see how it goes but I'm extremely hopeful.

At more than one Casino I've gone in and sat down at an empty table and told the dealer I'm going to win 10 units and leave and I did it, I won 10 units and I left. At one of the casinos the dealer told me, she said don't do that don't tell me what you're going to do before you do it because it'll do nothing but get you in trouble. She said they pinch the dollar around here like they're not going to print anymore and if they think you have some kind of advantage they'll never stop watching you. But I didn't care because it wasn't my game I was just doing it to have fun. But she's right that's a really stupid thing to do. I would also play bacc when my wife and I were staying overnight at the casino and I was drinking and even then I did well. I remember at an Indian casino up north I talked them into opening a closed table and they did it and I won $250 in about an hour as I was throwing down vodka drinks and they were not happy with me at all. I wonder what they thought, because I was half drunk and I wasn't even trying but the shoe was just so good all I could do was win. Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.
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The Indians were just pissed off you were drinking all their Vodka.

Quote: EvenBob

There is a huge advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino because the tables are usually crowded and there's no more chairs and you have to be actually playing the game, betting on every hand. If you're not betting they're not going to let you sit there because there's somebody that wants your chair. Online I can do whatever I want, I could even watch three shoes at once.
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Or you could just bet the minimum until you thought you had a good trend or whatever and then bet bigger.

Quote: AxelWolf

The Indians were just pissed off you were drinking all their Vodka.
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Indian casinos in Michigan don't give out free drinks

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Quote: EvenBob

There is a huge advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino because the tables are usually crowded and there's no more chairs and you have to be actually playing the game, betting on every hand. If you're not betting they're not going to let you sit there because there's somebody that wants your chair. Online I can do whatever I want, I could even watch three shoes at once.
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Or you could just bet the minimum until you thought you had a good trend or whatever and then bet bigger.
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Which often as not is an extreme waste of time and money. That's if you could find a seat at the table which half the time is impossible at an Indian Casino, doesn't matter anyway I'm probably never going to enter another brick and mortar Casino in my life other than by accident. Like when we got turned back from the family reunion last month we stopped at the casino but it was totally unplanned and I didn't even play

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Quote: AxelWolf

The Indians were just pissed off you were drinking all their Vodka.
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Indian casinos in Michigan don't give out free drinks
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Who said they did? I'm certain I have been to many more Indian casinos than you, I have probably been to the one you are talking about.

Most Indian casinos don't give out free drinks while you are playing.

The fact that you think some casino cared that you won $250 is completely totally laughable.

It's just as laughable as me saying they were pissed off that you were drinking all their Vodka.

Quote: EvenBob

There is a 𝙃𝙐𝙂𝙀 advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino

there are exactly ZERO people in the world with some degree of intelligence and/or common sense who would believe that statement

the statement is absolute nonsense

omg - here we go - the first day - 13 more years coming

why would a person put out info that they can beat roulette and bacc - unbeatable games with a few exceptions that don't apply to you_____?

if you actually had a bet selection technique that could accomplish this and you could prove it you would be a very exceptional person and your story would be of worldwide interest

but in reality, the larger world, the media, will never have an interest in your unproven, undocumented tall tales

this is why I believe you put out this info:

you want to portray yourself as a very exceptional person

.

Quote: EvenBob

Big news for me. I'm phasing out my playing of the other game, the one that I cannot discuss anymore, and moving over to playing bacc.

Yeah. Sure. Having a foolproof 'win every time' method that has totally defeated roulette, you decide to play something else instead. That says a lot about your rationality.

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I've been playing all this week and have not had a losing session yet. There are times when, just like the other game, I cannot bet because there's nothing to bet on. One thing I like is this game is discussed different places where they actually talk about bet selection which is something nobody ever does for the other game.

More Yada Yada. So. This thread is to be the new home of talking about bet selection in Baccarat. I must bookmark it in case I ever need a laugh.

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I really like this game, it has a certain amount of strategy attached to it and people get excited when they play it. We'll see how it goes but I'm extremely hopeful.

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

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Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.
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That is one of the [expletive deleted] wrongest assertions that you have ever made.
Bet against the trend, bet with the trend: Makes zero difference. You can still lose every wager you place and proceed to lose your ass.

Baccarat is so beatable, that Resorts World Aqueduct racino in NYC, keeps replacing bubble craps and roulette games with more and more baccarat seats to allow more people to beat it.

No less than 1,000 bac seats currently available, with another section under construction.

Memorializing these words of wisdom

Quote: OnceDear

That is one of the [expletive deleted] wrongest assertions that you have ever made.
Bet against the trend, bet with the trend: Makes zero difference. You can still lose every wager you place and proceed to lose your ass.

out of fairness to EB I would say that some of his posts on other subjects are interesting and informative
but EB's posts re betting are the worst that have ever appeared on this forum imho
there are some other really bad ones - but after getting straightened out - they may still believe their nonsense - but at least they go away

EB keeps pumping his nonsensical theories for decades.
.

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Indian casinos in Michigan don't give out free drinks
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I can't think of a tribal casino anywhere that gives free alcoholic drinks.

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Quote: EvenBob

Indian casinos in Michigan don't give out free drinks
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I can't think of a tribal casino anywhere that gives free alcoholic drinks.
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Are Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun not considered tribal casinos?

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Quote: EvenBob

There is a 𝙃𝙐𝙂𝙀 advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino

there are exactly ZERO people in the world with some degree of intelligence and/or common sense who would believe that statement

the statement is absolute nonsense

omg - here we go - the first day - 13 more years coming

why would a person put out info that they can beat roulette and bacc - unbeatable games with a few exceptions that don't apply to you_____?

if you actually had a bet selection technique that could accomplish this and you could prove it you would be a very exceptional person and your story would be of worldwide interest

but in reality, the larger world, the media, will never have an interest in your unproven, undocumented tall tales

this is why I believe you put out this info:

you want to portray yourself as a very exceptional person

.
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WARNING: The bolded text is a clear personal insult to EVENBOB. IF you do this again, you will be suspended.

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.

So the thread about letting the forum vote to close the EB roulette thread was made with this thread in mind.

EB certainly knew that thread would get voted closed and that the reason is the forum members here find his claims about how he wins ridiculous.

This entire thread then is just to shove it in the forum members face by saying hah, hah, I am just switching to Baccarat and making essentially the same claims.

Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
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Ask Judy.

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
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Ask Judy.

Quote: EvenBob

Big news for me. I'm phasing out my playing of the other game, the one that I cannot discuss anymore, and moving over to playing bacc. I have always actually preferred this game but it's not offered in very many of the casinos I go to locally and when it is it's a $25 minimum. I used to play a lot of this game at Four Wind.s Casino in 2008 with my wife because the minimum bet at minibac was $5 and it allowed me to sit and play in between making the bigger bets when it was playing my game. My wife would copy my bet and she would always bet the Dragon which I never did because it's a sucker bet. But I was winning so often that she won quite a few dragons and we were a few thousand dollars ahead by the end of the summer. What screwed it up for me and soured me on the game was they treated certain players with tremendous prejudice in their favor and let them do things that they would not let me and my wife do. I finally got fed up with it and quit playing. I always did really well playing this game and since they made online gambling legal in my state I don't know why I've ignored it. But since they apparently have blocked me from making bets at one casino I have decided to change my game.

I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it. They expect you to have runs of good luck and in the other game that I cannot discuss anymore the house edge is so high that they really don't expect you to win. And the amount of money bet on bacc is so ridiculously high, even online, that if you're a small fish player I don't think they're even going to notice you. At a couple of these casinos they show you how much money has been bet on every hand and sometimes it's 25 or $30,000. So if you're playing for 10 or 15 or $20 you're going to fall through the cracks.

I've been playing all this week and have not had a losing session yet. There are times when, just like the other game, I cannot bet because there's nothing to bet on. One thing I like is this game is discussed different places where they actually talk about bet selection which is something nobody ever does for the other game. And this isn't a rare occurrence, the shoe going completely cold. It just produces nonsense. On one game I was virtually betting and I lost 13 in a row which I don't think I could do on purpose in the other game if I tried. I consider this to be a very good thing, because it makes the good shoes easy to spot and the bad shoes even easier. Right now I'm just playing for minimum amounts to get a feel for it but whenever I played this game in the past in brick and mortar Casino I always did well basically playing the same game of patterns and trends that I played in the other game. I'm kind of excited about this because I really like this game, it has a certain amount of strategy attached to it and people get excited when they play it. We'll see how it goes but I'm extremely hopeful.

At more than one Casino I've gone in and sat down at an empty table and told the dealer I'm going to win 10 units and leave and I did it, I won 10 units and I left. At one of the casinos the dealer told me, she said don't do that don't tell me what you're going to do before you do it because it'll do nothing but get you in trouble. She said they pinch the dollar around here like they're not going to print anymore and if they think you have some kind of advantage they'll never stop watching you. But I didn't care because it wasn't my game I was just doing it to have fun. But she's right that's a really stupid thing to do. I would also play bacc when my wife and I were staying overnight at the casino and I was drinking and even then I did well. I remember at an Indian casino up north I talked them into opening a closed table and they did it and I won $250 in about an hour as I was throwing down vodka drinks and they were not happy with me at all. I wonder what they thought, because I was half drunk and I wasn't even trying but the shoe was just so good all I could do was win. Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.
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I can't wait for his switch to craps and then slots.

tuttigym

I'm okay as long as he doesn't disclose the secrets to winning at Sic Bo. That would be a bridge too far.

Quote: AxelWolf

The fact that you think some casino cared that you won $250 is completely totally laughable.

I not only think it, I know it for a fact. The woman supervisor who I talked into opening the table for me was super pissed that she pulled a dealer off of another game to open the table for me and all I did was win. So not only did they lose money on the table that she closed they lost money on the table that she opened for me. That's not her job .description, and she got raked over the coals for it because I saw it happening right in front of my face. This was a small Indian Casino and they squeeze every Indian head nickel till it screams for mercy.

Quote: Tanko

Baccarat is so beatable, that Resorts World Aqueduct racino in NYC, keeps replacing bubble craps and roulette games with more and more baccarat seats to allow more people to beat it.
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Vast majority of people have no idea when to stop playing, that's why they end up losing. I always have a goal and I only play shoes that are playing my game and because I have a goal I know exactly when to stop. They are gamblers, I am not. This is an incalculable advantage in my favor.

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Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
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Ask Judy.
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Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?

Quote: lilredrooster

out of fairness to EB I would say that some of his posts on other subjects are interesting and informative
but EB's posts re betting are the worst that have ever appeared on this forum
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I don't care, don't read them then. I do what I do and that's all that I do and it works for me. How about you do what works for you and I'll do what works for me.

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
link to original post

Ask Judy.
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Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?
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Are you really that out of touch? Don't bother answering. It's a rhetorical question.
It's written by Judy Collins. google it. Or don't. I honestly don't care.

Quote: OnceDear

That is one of the [expletive deleted] wrongest assertions that you have ever made.
Bet against the trend, bet with the trend: Makes zero difference. You can still lose every wager you place and proceed to lose your ass.
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Depends on the trend, doesn't it. If you do this with every trend obviously you will lose your ass. You have to know which trends to follow and which ones to leave alone. The problem with gamblers, of which I am not, is they are always looking for the magic solution that works on every play every time and so that's how they think. They can't imagine arriving at a bet selection that's actually based on something other than sheer luck. Like my example of the guy who lost his entire bankroll. You see a marquee that's entirely red why on Earth would you bet black. It's obviously trending red why do you think the trend will end on the next outcome when it hasn't done so in the last four or five outcomes. So take a chance, bet with the trend and you can only lose once. Trends are a force of nature in casino games and in everything else and people who pay attention know that.

Quote: EvenBob

They are gamblers, I am not.
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And there it is....lol...

Quote: EvenBob

Big news for me. I'm phasing out my playing of the other game, the one that I cannot discuss anymore, and moving over to playing bacc.

Monkey monkey!

Quote: billryan

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

Quote: darkoz

Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
link to original post

Ask Judy.
link to original post

Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?
link to original post

Are you really that out of touch? Don't bother answering. It's a rhetorical question.
It's written by Judy Collins. google it. Or don't. I honestly don't care.
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I think that's Joni Mitchell?

Forget about how I do it, it's been discussed and alluded to that sometimes I know what the first card out the gate will be.

But as far as Baccarat in general, I've seen players (including myself) win ten, twelve in a row, and I've seen players lose that many in a row too. Where it gets weird and painful to watch is that the vast majority of the time, when I see players winning many in a row they are playing conservatively, like maybe just a few grand a hand, and then when I see them losing hand after hand defying the odds of 50-50, they tend to be betting to the limit.

There's a guy who is a member here but posts pretty much only at other forums, who says he has been supporting himself with Baccarat for a couple dozen years, and flat bets only, only on Bank. Obviously he doesn't bet every hand.

EvenBob do you flat bet Baccarat or vary your bet? And, I gather that you bet Bank only, is that correct?

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Quote: OnceDear

That is one of the [expletive deleted] wrongest assertions that you have ever made.
Bet against the trend, bet with the trend: Makes zero difference. You can still lose every wager you place and proceed to lose your ass.
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Depends on the trend, doesn't it.

Nope!

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If you do this with every trend obviously you will lose your ass.

Nope

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You have to know which trends to follow and which ones to leave alone.

Unknowable

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The problem with gamblers, of which I am not,

If you place wagers on Roulette or Baccarat, you are a gambler. If you are not a gambler, you don't, by definition, play baccarat. I don't know or care whether you play either game, so I don't know if you are a gambler. All I know is that you are a prolific poster, advocating methods and theories that were debunked two hundred years before either of us were born.

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...They can't imagine arriving at a bet selection that's actually based on something other than sheer luck.

You have never demonstrated or even properly described any such skill. It didn't happen over thirteen years of posting about roulette and it won't happen in this thread.

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You see a marquee that's entirely red why on Earth would you bet black. It's obviously trending red why do you think the trend will end on the next outcome when it hasn't done so in the last four or five outcomes.

Which part of 'Trends mean nothing' don't you get? Wasn't losing your money on that other game evidence enough for you.

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So take a chance, bet with the trend and you can only lose oncelink to original post

Again, wrongest assertion ever. Bet with the trend and lose half the time. Bet against the trend, and lose half the time makes no difference*. If You lose your one time, and then bet on the next trend, and lose that wager, does that not demonstrate that you can lose more than once? After all, it's only the wagers that you make that affect your bankroll

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Trends are a force of nature in casino games and in everything else and people who pay attention know that.

OK. I'm estimating that that is the second wrongest assertion you ever made, but then I could be wrong because I haven't read your entire 74 years of internet posts.
I'm off to watch some entertaining youtube videos that came from my Youtube search for 'Win Baccarat'. Entertaining because many of them feature attractive dealers at evolution tables.
Every winning system, demonstrated there is foolproof. Every one wins, just like EvenBob. Paradox, because Casinos exist and fall over themselves to offer the game.

There is Zero . ZERO! merit in any of your gambling assertions. Not even the ones where you assert that you are not gambling.

* Yes. I know Baccarat isn't exactly a 50:50 gamble

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okay - here it is

the over/under odds on how long this thread will last

over 4 years_____________-290

under 4 years____________+230

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Remember folks. There is a thread rating feature on this forum. Maybe if we all rated at 0*, we could persuade wizard to make that mean something.

p.s. When will this thread get moved to the appropriate subforum?

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okay - here it is

the over/under odds on how long this thread will last

over 4 years_____________-290

under 4 years____________+230

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It will be gone by the end of the month.

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I have always believed bacc is a better game anyway because they don't mind it when you win because they kind of expect it.
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That shouldn't be the reason to switch, but that baccarat has a lower house advantage. No casino is going to sweat over losing $250 or "ten units" in either game.

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Like I've always said always bet with a trend and you can only lose once. Bet against the trend and you can lose your ass.

Can we interpret this to mean your secret is more of a betting system as opposed to a psychic ability?
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Wizard,
Unfair of you to ask a binary question like that. 'Betting system' or 'psychic ability'. You don't leave room for the third option of 'educated guessing'
OK, you asked him to rate it on a relative scale. Where would you put 'educated guessing' on the ranking?
He's denied often enough that he uses any 'betting system' which rules that out. But he has never claimed 'psychic ability'. So asking him to put his skill down on a scale including those two options is no more useful than asking him if his secret is more to do with cheese as opposed to potatoes.

I note you give him a pass on the most obvious question in the history of EvenBob:- If you can beat Roulette with a method that sees 80% of your even money wagers result in a win ( A most fantastical money making proposition ) then why in the name of all that is holy would you stop playing that game and play a different one.
The corollaries "Why are you not getting breathtakingly wealthy", "Why do you not take down the casinos", "Why do you post this stuff?" go all the way to answering the question "Is EvenBob trolling the forum?"

This thread is 'EvenBob's Playground'. I think we can guess how much it will enhance the forum.
Quantity over quality. Oh Hum. Clicks all count in the world of SEO.

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So the thread about letting the forum vote to close the EB roulette thread was made with this thread in mind.

EB certainly knew that thread would get voted closed and that the reason is the forum members here find his claims about how he wins ridiculous.

This entire thread then is just to shove it in the forum members face by saying hah, hah, I am just switching to Baccarat and making essentially the same claims.
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Read this insightful spot on post a few times. It must suck knowing people can read you like a book.

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There is a 𝙃𝙐𝙂𝙀 advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino

there are exactly ZERO people in the world with some degree of intelligence and/or common sense who would believe that statement

the statement is absolute nonsense

omg - here we go - the first day - 13 more years coming

why would a person put out info that they can beat roulette and bacc - unbeatable games with a few exceptions that don't apply to you_____?

if you actually had a bet selection technique that could accomplish this and you could prove it you would be a very exceptional person and your story would be of worldwide interest

but in reality, the larger world, the media, will never have an interest in your unproven, undocumented tall tales

this is why I believe you put out this info:

you want to portray yourself as a very exceptional person

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WARNING: The bolded text is a clear personal insult to EVENBOB. IF you do this again, you will be suspended.
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Now that's complete BS and way overstepping.

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And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
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Ask Judy.
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Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?
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Are you really that out of touch? Don't bother answering. It's a rhetorical question.
It's written by Judy Collins. google it. Or don't. I honestly don't care.
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I googled it and it's by Joni Mitchell.

I guess you were so out of touch you didn't think to Google it yourself?

BTW - it's ironic you believe quoting someone else without giving them proper credit(Even if ascribed to the wrong person)is not out of touch.

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And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
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Ask Judy.
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Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?
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Are you really that out of touch? Don't bother answering. It's a rhetorical question.
It's written by Judy Collins. google it. Or don't. I honestly don't care.
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I think that's Joni Mitchell?
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Joni, Judy, Juliani, whatever.

"Ride a painted pony, let the spinning wheel spin."

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Quote: billryan

And the seasons, they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time.
We can't retreat, we can only look behind
from where we came
and go round and round and round
in the circle game.
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Was that written with an AI?
link to original post

Ask Judy.
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Judge Judy? And why would she know? And how do I ask her? And why can't you just answer a simple question?
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Are you really that out of touch? Don't bother answering. It's a rhetorical question.
It's written by Judy Collins. google it. Or don't. I honestly don't care.
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I think that's Joni Mitchell?
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Joni, Judy, Juliani, whatever.

"Ride a painted pony, let the spinning wheel spin."
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Still quoting people without ascribing who Said it?

Can't admit you didn't even get the first quote ascribed correctly?

That's so out of touch!

But hey that's what you get from someone who derided me for being out of touch and didn't even know who wrote it themselves.

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Quote: EvenBob

There is a 𝙃𝙐𝙂𝙀 advantage I'm seeing already of playing bacc online. I can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want and you can't do that in a brick and mortar Casino

there are exactly ZERO people in the world with some degree of intelligence and/or common sense who would believe that statement

the statement is absolute nonsense

omg - here we go - the first day - 13 more years coming

why would a person put out info that they can beat roulette and bacc - unbeatable games with a few exceptions that don't apply to you_____?

if you actually had a bet selection technique that could accomplish this and you could prove it you would be a very exceptional person and your story would be of worldwide interest

but in reality, the larger world, the media, will never have an interest in your unproven, undocumented tall tales

this is why I believe you put out this info:

you want to portray yourself as a very exceptional person

.
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-bolding on text added -

WARNING: The bolded text is a clear personal insult to EVENBOB. IF you do this again, you will be suspended.
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Now that's complete BS and way overstepping.
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Couldn't agree more. Gordon enforces with the hand of a Tyrant.

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Remember folks. There is a thread rating feature on this forum. Maybe if we all rated at 0*, we could persuade wizard to make that mean something.

p.s. When will this thread get moved to the appropriate subforum?
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I have a hunch this thread will get appropriately re-filed just as soon as we figure out if it's BS or not.

If you want the thread to fizzle out, quit responding.