Betting System that is close to a Draw
Where I'm from, most sites offer a matched deposit bonus, up to $5000.(wagering requirements is between 20x / 25 x ). You get the picture, deposit $5000, they match $5000 = $10,000 x 25 =$250,000 wagering required.
I've actually managed to complete and withdraw the amount. But I almost lost it during the process.
I played roulette, bet on all street bets totaling $288.
I was playing on Evo speed auto roulette, it spins about 180 per hour, so I was able to complete in 6 hours.
I even tried 2 accounts, so one will bet on red and the other on black. I played the "Pass" and "Don't Pass" too, but it was taking too much time.
But I would like something more concrete and can be done in 24 hours (not the sites requirements tho).
Not forgetting to mention, I've tried it all, blackjack, sic bo, baccarat, dragon tiger they all kinda seem risky.
Quote: DinosaurNeed some advice.
Where I'm from, most sites offer a matched deposit bonus, up to $5000.(wagering requirements is between 20x / 25 x ). You get the picture, deposit $5000, they match $5000 = $10,000 x 25 =$250,000 wagering required. (snip)
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First off, make sure you pick a game you can play fairly well/quickly, with a low house edge (so all "normal " forms of roulette and sic bo, should not be a consideration^^^).
^^^: ... and anything with a house edge greater than or equal to 2%, when wagering $10k x 25 (This figure assumes that my understanding of what a "matched deposit bonus*** " is).
***: Is the "deposit bonus" a "cashable one" see link here or something else?
Also, if you can play basic strategy well enough, blackjack is a fine choice too (I know you said something like "it seems kinda risky").
The other good thing about blackjack is that you can spread to more than one box, and you can "safely " bet more overall each round### .
###: By this I mean betting $100 on one box is about as "safe" as betting $150 on two boxes ($75 each box) or $180 on three boxes ($60 each box).
My first go-to game was blackjack due to odds, but I was having dealt a lot of bad hands, which wiped me out once.
I played with almost perfect basic strategy, even played with a manual card counting app. Still, it was considered "risky".
As for my betting, I keep it lower than $400 in overall bets.
Thanks for that link to the website, it has some good insights.
What happens if you lose all your money before you complete the WRs, Do the WRs carry over? If not, a bet big win big or go home strategy might be your best value(assuming you will get future offers.)Quote: DinosaurNeed some advice.
Where I'm from, most sites offer a matched deposit bonus, up to $5000.(wagering requirements is between 20x / 25 x ). You get the picture, deposit $5000, they match $5000 = $10,000 x 25 =$250,000 wagering required.
I've actually managed to complete and withdraw the amount. But I almost lost it during the process.
I played roulette, bet on all street bets totaling $288.
I was playing on Evo speed auto roulette, it spins about 180 per hour, so I was able to complete in 6 hours.
I even tried 2 accounts, so one will bet on red and the other on black. I played the "Pass" and "Don't Pass" too, but it was taking too much time.
But I would like something more concrete and can be done in 24 hours (not the sites requirements tho).
Not forgetting to mention, I've tried it all, blackjack, sic bo, baccarat, dragon tiger they all kinda seem risky.
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Is that single or double-zero roulette? You certainly can't use off-setting wagers on roulette if you want to profit.
bet big win big or go home strategy on roulette would be an option.
Is it playable on VP?
Slots, Specialty Games (unless stated otherwise) 100%
Table Games (unless stated otherwise) 20%
Video Poker (all types) & Blackjack (unless stated otherwise), Reels and Wheels XL 10%
Single Deck & Double Deck Blackjack, Roulette, Baccarat 5%
Craps, Live Dealer (all types), Hot Drop Jackpots (all games), Gold Rush Gus, ThunderCrash 0%
Are you saying this Casino lets you play Blackjack with a 100% Contribution?
It's a single zero roulette. As mentioned, I just wanna find the best way possible to clear the WRs. Offsetting bets are the best I can think off. But it obviously can't be opposite bets.
Sorry but what's VP? 😅
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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Sorry but what's VP? 😅
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Video Poker. 😏
Welcome to the forum.
But no, the casino doesn't have such rules, only rules are, no opposite bets. So no betting on red and black and the same time, but covering all street bets are allowed.
If you can do all the different categories and it's a regulated casino, I would check to see if they have the RTP listed on slots. I would check to see if they have cash back from earning points and calculate the percentage on that. Some regulated casinos have a 97% payout on slots add another 1% in cash back and even the slots would be +EV. Assuming you just set up auto spin at a low bet amount, I would think with the number of spins it would take you should be close to expectation at the end. Perhaps a couple of grand in value from the 5k slot bonus. Auto spin = set it and forget it while you do other stuff. Sometimes you can play multiple slots at once as well.Quote: DinosaurSorry I'm not from America, so I don't quite understand what you mean when you say 100% contribution.
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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Am I missing something, even single zero roulette would be -EV.Quote: OnceDearSee if you can find a single zero roulette with La Partage rule. You'll probably find that the casino will not allow you to cover more than 24 numbers per spin.
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Quote: AxelWolfIf you can do all the different categories and it's a regulated casino, I would check to see if they have the RTP listed on slots. I would check to see if they have cash back from earning points and calculate the percentage on that. Some regulated casinos have a 97% payout on slots add another 1% in cash back and even the slots would be +EV. Assuming you just set up auto spin at a low bet amount, I would think with the number of spins it would take you should be close to expectation at the end. Perhaps a couple of grand in value from the 5k slot bonus. Auto spin = set it and forget it while you do other stuff. Sometimes you can play multiple slots at once as well.Quote: DinosaurSorry I'm not from America, so I don't quite understand what you mean when you say 100% contribution.
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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I recently used a casino's live dealer carney games to beat wagering requirements. 96% RTP and easy to cover all options and auto play..
You just need to evaluate the EV from sacrificing 4% as many times as dictated by Wagering requirements. The live dealer carney games had 100% contribution, unlike the much lower contribution of table games.
Yes, I understand this. But I'm talking about roulette specifically. I assume he would be depositing 5k and he would get $5500 extra(110%). That would be 25 x $10,500 = $262,500 in wagering at -2.7% = $7,087.5 for a loss of $1,587.5 Do you agree?Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIf you can do all the different categories and it's a regulated casino, I would check to see if they have the RTP listed on slots. I would check to see if they have cash back from earning points and calculate the percentage on that. Some regulated casinos have a 97% payout on slots add another 1% in cash back and even the slots would be +EV. Assuming you just set up auto spin at a low bet amount, I would think with the number of spins it would take you should be close to expectation at the end. Perhaps a couple of grand in value from the 5k slot bonus. Auto spin = set it and forget it while you do other stuff. Sometimes you can play multiple slots at once as well.Quote: DinosaurSorry I'm not from America, so I don't quite understand what you mean when you say 100% contribution.
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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I recently used a casino's live dealer carney games to beat wagering requirements. 96% RTP and easy to cover all options and auto play..
You just need to evaluate the EV from sacrificing 4% as many times as dictated by Wagering requirements. The live dealer carney games had 100% contribution, unlike the much lower contribution of table games.
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The math is sound. It looks like he could get a profit if he could find a la partege table.Quote: AxelWolfYes, I understand this. But I'm talking about roulette specifically. I assume he would be depositing 5k and he would get $5500 extra(110%). That would be 25 x $10,500 = $262,500 in wagering at -2.7% = $7,087.5 for a loss of $1,587.5 Do you agree?Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIf you can do all the different categories and it's a regulated casino, I would check to see if they have the RTP listed on slots. I would check to see if they have cash back from earning points and calculate the percentage on that. Some regulated casinos have a 97% payout on slots add another 1% in cash back and even the slots would be +EV. Assuming you just set up auto spin at a low bet amount, I would think with the number of spins it would take you should be close to expectation at the end. Perhaps a couple of grand in value from the 5k slot bonus. Auto spin = set it and forget it while you do other stuff. Sometimes you can play multiple slots at once as well.Quote: DinosaurSorry I'm not from America, so I don't quite understand what you mean when you say 100% contribution.
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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I recently used a casino's live dealer carney games to beat wagering requirements. 96% RTP and easy to cover all options and auto play..
You just need to evaluate the EV from sacrificing 4% as many times as dictated by Wagering requirements. The live dealer carney games had 100% contribution, unlike the much lower contribution of table games.
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I miss read, I thought he said, "No."Quote: OnceDearThe math is sound. It looks like he could get a profit if he could find a la partege table.Quote: AxelWolfYes, I understand this. But I'm talking about roulette specifically. I assume he would be depositing 5k and he would get $5500 extra(110%). That would be 25 x $10,500 = $262,500 in wagering at -2.7% = $7,087.5 for a loss of $1,587.5 Do you agree?Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIf you can do all the different categories and it's a regulated casino, I would check to see if they have the RTP listed on slots. I would check to see if they have cash back from earning points and calculate the percentage on that. Some regulated casinos have a 97% payout on slots add another 1% in cash back and even the slots would be +EV. Assuming you just set up auto spin at a low bet amount, I would think with the number of spins it would take you should be close to expectation at the end. Perhaps a couple of grand in value from the 5k slot bonus. Auto spin = set it and forget it while you do other stuff. Sometimes you can play multiple slots at once as well.Quote: DinosaurSorry I'm not from America, so I don't quite understand what you mean when you say 100% contribution.
If what you're referring to is, 100% contribution towards the wagering requirements, then yes, it's counted as so. All table games are 100%.
They have different categories for bonus.
(Casino)
Bonus Wagering Requirement
90% up to $50 10x (Deposit + Bonus)
100% up to $500 15x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $5,000 25x (Deposit + Bonus)
(Slots)
100% up to $50 6x (Deposit + Bonus)
110% up to $500 12x (Deposit + Bonus)
120% up to $5,000 18x (Deposit + Bonus)
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I recently used a casino's live dealer carney games to beat wagering requirements. 96% RTP and easy to cover all options and auto play..
You just need to evaluate the EV from sacrificing 4% as many times as dictated by Wagering requirements. The live dealer carney games had 100% contribution, unlike the much lower contribution of table games.
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When you asked him that. A -1.33% game would definitely be +EV.
