EvenBob
October 5th, 2022 at 1:37:38 PM
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Last night when I was talking about views of this thread there were 29300 and right now when I checked there is 30500 that is 1,200 more views just since last night. People are interested in this thread, I don't care how many of you try and take away from that it's obvious that the interest is there. They want to know how this works and I want to keep explaining how it works no matter if the pig piling-on keeps happening.
Last night I did a grinder again because I'm trying to break up my play so it doesn't look like I'm using some kind of system. It was a relatively easy one because the red odd and black even numbers were trending again and the other 16 numbers were sleeping. This resulted in a chop that went on and on and I ended up getting in 18 bets with 4 wrong and 14 right. One of the losses was a zero, I hate when that happens. I am always on the lookout for chops because single even chance events are the most plentiful obviously. There are twice as many single outcome events is there are double outcome against. There are twice as many double outcome events as there are triple outcome events. There are twice as many triple outcome events as there are quadruple outcome events. On and on. This information can be invaluable when reading random outcomes in roulette. But you can't limit yourself to the single event chops because double events chop, triple events chop. You have to try and be aware of everything that's going on with every even chance you're following.
Last night I did a grinder again because I'm trying to break up my play so it doesn't look like I'm using some kind of system. It was a relatively easy one because the red odd and black even numbers were trending again and the other 16 numbers were sleeping. This resulted in a chop that went on and on and I ended up getting in 18 bets with 4 wrong and 14 right. One of the losses was a zero, I hate when that happens. I am always on the lookout for chops because single even chance events are the most plentiful obviously. There are twice as many single outcome events is there are double outcome against. There are twice as many double outcome events as there are triple outcome events. There are twice as many triple outcome events as there are quadruple outcome events. On and on. This information can be invaluable when reading random outcomes in roulette. But you can't limit yourself to the single event chops because double events chop, triple events chop. You have to try and be aware of everything that's going on with every even chance you're following.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 4:53:21 PM
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The one unit wonder... I like it man.
October 5th, 2022 at 5:10:57 PM
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Quote: rainmanThe one unit wonder... I like it man.
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Except I switched it up and I'm grinding half the time now because I realized that playing for just one unit every time makes me look too much like a robot or a system player. So now I'm playing sessions where I'm betting 15 to 20 times for less money but it adds up to the same amount. Takes more time but I'd rather protect myself from getting banned for being a consistent winner then worry about making just one unit for every session. So of course my 80% hit rate gets knocked way down into the 60s. But that's fine just takes longer to get the job done. It is so easy doing it online compared to a brick-and-mortar.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 5:28:04 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanThe one unit wonder... I like it man.
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Except I switched it up and I'm grinding half the time now because I realized that playing for just one unit every time makes me look too much like a robot or a system player. So now I'm playing sessions where I'm betting 15 to 20 times for less money but it adds up to the same amount. Takes more time but I'd rather protect myself from getting banned for being a consistent winner then worry about making just one unit for every session. So of course my 80% hit rate gets knocked way down into the 60s. But that's fine just takes longer to get the job done. It is so easy doing it online compared to a brick-and-mortar.
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Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
Meanwhile not wise enough to know that any dent made in online Casinos they can track and do a tabulation on regardless of spins.
The casino doesn't care how many spins you played but your bottom line profit.
Of course if you really did anything that frightened their bottom line maybe it would matter. As of now it psuedo-AP to join your psuedo-science.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 5th, 2022 at 6:13:55 PM
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Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 6:34:07 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
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What can you say about a guy who doesn't realize humans control websites.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 5th, 2022 at 6:42:54 PM
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There are individuals betting million online on roulette in a week/month and you really think they are concerned about your play. ROTFLMAO.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 5th, 2022 at 7:42:16 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
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What can you say about a guy who doesn't realize humans control websites.
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So you're just trying to tell me that absolutely nobody here believes what I'm doing but the casinos who are even more skeptical than the people here are they're going to believe it? Are you joking? I'm sure the alerts have gone up all over online casinoland, be on the lookout somebody's beat roulette! Get real..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 7:45:28 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfThere are individuals betting million online on roulette in a week/month and you really think they are concerned about your play. ROTFLMAO.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
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That's the problem, it's not people doing the analyzing online it's computers. They don't care about the amounts they are looking for patterns in your play that might indicate that you are using a robot or a system to consistently win. The amount you win is irrelevant to the computer.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 7:51:13 PM
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In the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 8:05:30 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Yes so smart.
Concerned about getting banned while posting every detail of how you beat the Casinos.
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I'm pretty sure the computers that analyzes the play don't read this forum. LOL
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What can you say about a guy who doesn't realize humans control websites.
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So you're just trying to tell me that absolutely nobody here believes what I'm doing but the casinos who are even more skeptical than the people here are they're going to believe it? Are you joking? I'm sure the alerts have gone up all over online casinoland, be on the lookout somebody's beat roulette! Get real..
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You don't have to worry about being banned because so far you have barely played 8 hours and won almost pennies and anyway they aren't going to ban you for being lucky.
But your paranoia is still ridiculous that you find posting your system online is fine but you are worried about programs that may ban you.
You claim no one gambled the way you do, no one plays just a one or three wagers a day.
But you believe the Casinos programmers are busy programming safeguards for people that until you came along don't even exist.
I mean you just take the cake for nonsensical logic.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 5th, 2022 at 8:08:31 PM
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Why not test it yourself? I brought it up and it was confirmed (or at least not debunked)Quote: EvenBobIn the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
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If you're a night owl just wait till it's slow, look at the count hit all the functions, and make all the action, count as your doing that, then look at the count again.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 5th, 2022 at 8:09:09 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIn the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
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I just noticed I had more tabs open than I realized, and they refresh whenever I re-open the web browser.
At least a few of those are spurious.
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 5th, 2022 at 8:12:14 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhy not test it yourself? I brought it up and it was confirmed (or at least not debunked)Quote: EvenBobIn the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
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If you're a night owl just wait till it's slow, look at the count hit all the functions, and make all the action, count as your doing that, then look at the count again.
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Bob can't tell the difference between "views" and "unique views".
Bob doesn't realize that a bunch of views are his own views looking at his own thread
Lol, this is so ridiculous it's funnier than Saturday night live.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 5th, 2022 at 8:25:53 PM
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I have 170 Mbps, fast computers, and multiple screens so I almost never close tabs until I feel like it. I have 33 open now and 13+ are WOV(Which drives my wife nuts whenever she sees that). I'll just open a new window if I get too many tabs and want fewer tabs. Oftentimes, I'll just relaunch to the same tabs. I have probably contributed to 5k the views he thinks he has. 5k is probably an exaggeration, but who knows?Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobIn the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
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I just noticed I had more tabs open than I realized, and they refresh whenever I re-open the web browser.
At least a few of those are spurious.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 5th, 2022 at 8:29:29 PM
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For the love of God, will someone please kill this abominable thread -- or at least place a permanent bookend on it?
October 5th, 2022 at 8:31:57 PM
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It's almost as funny as someone claiming they can use past roulette patterns to correctly guess future outcomes with 80% accuracy.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfWhy not test it yourself? I brought it up and it was confirmed (or at least not debunked)Quote: EvenBobIn the last six hours another 300 views have been added to this thread. Until Zuga or one of the current owners comes here and tells me these numbers are completely wrong and completely irrelevant I'm going to believe they're true.
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If you're a night owl just wait till it's slow, look at the count hit all the functions, and make all the action, count as your doing that, then look at the count again.
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Bob can't tell the difference between "views" and "unique views".
Bob doesn't realize that a bunch of views are his own views looking at his own thread
Lol, this is so ridiculous it's funnier than Saturday night live.
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whatever, apparently being off by a factor of 2-5 is good enough for some people.
FYI, some are not even actual views.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 5th, 2022 at 9:14:50 PM
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Quote: JackSpadeFor the love of God, will someone please kill this abominable thread -- or at least place a permanent bookend on it?
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Get somebody to show you how to use the blocking feature, I block threads everyday. Not once not a single time in the 12 plus years that I've been there have I called for a thread to be closed or canceled because I didn't like it. That's not my business, I don't want to take away somebody else's right to post what they want because I don't like it. Why do you think you have that right? You don't.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 9:16:09 PM
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Bob can't tell the difference between "views" and "unique views".
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Bob doesn't care, all Bob cares about is the total view count. And you just can't stand it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 9:21:58 PM
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But your paranoia is still ridiculous that you find posting your system online is fine but you are worried about programs that may ban you.
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Here's a hypothetical. Suppose somehow in some fantasy universe that the online casinos believed I beat the even chances. What are they going to do, cancel all even chance bets? There's nothing they can do, they can't detect who it is because of thousands of people make even chance bets. Thousands of people win which one of them is using a method or system to do it? It was the same way in blackjack with card counters. The casinos knew exactly what was going on but catching the people doing it was hard as hell. And it would be impossible to catch the even chance winners because they look exactly like every other even chance winner like it's blind dumb luck. Try and think these things through once in awhile.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 9:30:09 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
But your paranoia is still ridiculous that you find posting your system online is fine but you are worried about programs that may ban you.
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Here's a hypothetical. Suppose somehow in some fantasy universe that the online casinos believed I beat the even chances. What are they going to do, cancel all even chance bets? There's nothing they can do, they can't detect who it is because of thousands of people make even chance bets. Thousands of people win which one of them is using a method or system to do it? It was the same way in blackjack with card counters. The casinos knew exactly what was going on but catching the people doing it was hard as hell. And it would be impossible to catch the even chance winners because they look exactly like every other even chance winner like it's blind dumb luck. Try and think these things through once in awhile.
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Naw, I think if the online Casinos actually feared you after reading this thread they would just run a program to identify who in the last 18 months made approximately one wager a day and never had a losing session.
And since you claim you are the only one doing that they wouldn't need to change the game or Roulette. All they would do is close your account.
See, now how difficult is that? Using your head?
But truth is you don't scare them because you have no system. With about 8 hours of gaming over a year and a half at best you have been lucky.
A man goes into a casino and plays for 8 hours and wins. He now believes he has a system for winning.
Man, I am chuckling, guffawing, busting all.my guts.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 5th, 2022 at 10:10:50 PM
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Naw, I think if the online Casinos actually feared you after reading this thread they would just run a program to identify who in the last 18 months made approximately one wager a day and never had a losing session.
I already thought of that at the very beginning of my online play. So I do practice sessions sometimes with the with a minimum amount bet and lose a little and win a little grinding. They can't tell those are practice sessions they would never be able to weed out my single wins because they're all for different amounts. My biggest fear is in being a consistent winner of never depositing any money only making withdrawals. I used to make deposits on top of what money I had in there but then I stopped it because that's not going to fool anybody. And also I only win on the first bet 80% of the time and the other 20% would be 3 bets or 5 bets. It would be very difficult for them to find me, put it that way.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2022 at 10:16:10 PM
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I tried all three platforms twice tonight and the Global Effect is in full force. There's nothing happening on any of the platforms that I can use. I hate it when it does this but there's nothing I can do about it, it's just pure chaos. No patterns, no sleepers, no trends, no nothing. But in playing knowing when not to bet and saving your bankroll is the same as winning. If everybody could do this in the casino every casino would go out of business. If everybody knew when not to bet the casinos would be closed in a week. So I can't be too angry about it it's just frustrating.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 6th, 2022 at 4:20:29 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Naw, I think if the online Casinos actually feared you after reading this thread they would just run a program to identify who in the last 18 months made approximately one wager a day and never had a losing session.
I already thought of that at the very beginning of my online play. So I do practice sessions sometimes with the with a minimum amount bet and lose a little and win a little grinding. They can't tell those are practice sessions they would never be able to weed out my single wins because they're all for different amounts.
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So... to conceal your online roulette hijinks, you make camouflage plays?
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 6th, 2022 at 9:42:50 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: JackSpadeFor the love of God, will someone please kill this abominable thread -- or at least place a permanent bookend on it?
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Get somebody to show you how to use the blocking feature, I block threads everyday. Not once not a single time in the 12 plus years that I've been there have I called for a thread to be closed or canceled because I didn't like it. That's not my business, I don't want to take away somebody else's right to post what they want because I don't like it. Why do you think you have that right? You don't.
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Really? Not once in 12 years have you called for a thread to be closed/cancelled because you didn't like it? You're wrong... again. And you're about to be proven wrong... again. (I try not to make claims without proving them, unlike you.)
You posted on the now closed Discussion II about the Suspension List thread the following (bold emphasis mine):
Quote: EvenBobWhy not get rid of this ridiculous thread
altogether? All it's done is cause trouble,
how many have been suspended or banned
because if this thread.
The thread that should be closed/cancelled is this ridiculous roulette thread!
I also find it ironic (and sad) you're the top contributor of content here by post count yet it's more a case of all quantity, not quality.
Normally, I wouldn't even make a post on attention seeking threads like this filled with contradictions and nonsense by the OP but today, I made an exception.
Carry on...
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October 6th, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Naw, I think if the online Casinos actually feared you after reading this thread they would just run a program to identify who in the last 18 months made approximately one wager a day and never had a losing session.
I already thought of that at the very beginning of my online play. So I do practice sessions sometimes with the with a minimum amount bet and lose a little and win a little grinding. They can't tell those are practice sessions they would never be able to weed out my single wins because they're all for different amounts.
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So... to conceal your online roulette hijinks, you make camouflage plays?
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I guess you could put it that way, I just play haphazardly for a while hoping to break even or to make a couple units. So it doesn't look like I'm a robot. Doesn't take very long and I don't do it everyday. I've asked questions about online casinos on different forms of different people and nobody knows the answer. Nobody knows what they look for, nobody knows how it works. You will get banned for screwing around with bonuses but everybody knows that. Nobody knows what it takes to get banned for legitimate play but everybody has an opinion.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 6th, 2022 at 9:56:07 AM
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Quote: FTBQuote: EvenBobQuote: JackSpadeFor the love of God, will someone please kill this abominable thread -- or at least place a permanent bookend on it?
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Get somebody to show you how to use the blocking feature, I block threads everyday. Not once not a single time in the 12 plus years that I've been there have I called for a thread to be closed or canceled because I didn't like it. That's not my business, I don't want to take away somebody else's right to post what they want because I don't like it. Why do you think you have that right? You don't.
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Really? Not once in 12 years have you called for a thread to be closed/cancelled because you didn't like it? You're wrong... again. And you're about to be proven wrong... again. (I try not to make claims without proving them, unlike you.)
You posted on the now closed Discussion II about the Suspension List thread the following (bold emphasis mine):Quote: EvenBobWhy not get rid of this ridiculous thread
altogether? All it's done is cause trouble,
how many have been suspended or banned
because if this thread.
The thread that should be closed/cancelled is this ridiculous roulette thread!
I also find it ironic (and sad) you're the top contributor of content here by post count yet it's more a case of all quantity, not quality.
Normally, I wouldn't even make a post on attention seeking threads like this filled with contradictions and nonsense by the OP but today, I made an exception.
Carry on...
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I don't remember that, post the link to the thread don't just quote what I said because you could have typed that. I don't remember saying that at all. This thread is the polar opposite of ridiculous, I'm showing people how to actually beat roulette. Just because you don't understand it doesn't it mean it should go away. How is it hurting you exactly, I don't get it.
This is what Mike said when I started this thread:
"As to ridiculous claims, let me make clear they are allowed on this forum. Alan's 18 yo's has set the precedent on that. Those who disagree are welcome to challenge the claims or ignore them."
In other words if other people get to have ridiculous threads that go on for thousands and thousands of posts so do I except my thread is not ridiculous. Everything I say here is true.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 6th, 2022 at 11:35:25 AM
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Quote: TBThe thread that should be closed/cancelled is this ridiculous roulette thread!]
As the political and social climate changes adjustments to WoV must be made.
No longer is this site the purview of only math-based threads; due to "wokeness" anti-math threads must now be tolerated.
Try to resist throwing stones at the kid in the short bus, he can't help having his limitations, and tolerating the feeble and the lame is now de rigueur.
"What, me worry?"
October 6th, 2022 at 11:36:57 AM
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I don't have a problem with a thread about a dubious roulette method based on someone's intuitions of non-random patterns being produced by random spins. I do have a problem with repeated claims of implausibly high win rates. Not because I think anyone is going to fall for such claims but because the person making them probably doesn't think so either and is therefore just trolling to get a dopamine hit off the reactions.
After 118 pages of going around in circles and generating nothing of value, the only discussion taking place on this thread is a discussion of the thread itself. Yes, I am ironically contributing to the perpetuation of this pointless discussion by complaining about it. So this will be my final contribution to it and if everyone else makes a final statement and decides to stop getting baited into reacting any further, the thread will finally die of natural causes.
After 118 pages of going around in circles and generating nothing of value, the only discussion taking place on this thread is a discussion of the thread itself. Yes, I am ironically contributing to the perpetuation of this pointless discussion by complaining about it. So this will be my final contribution to it and if everyone else makes a final statement and decides to stop getting baited into reacting any further, the thread will finally die of natural causes.
October 6th, 2022 at 12:03:52 PM
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Quote: JackSpadeI don't have a problem with a thread about a dubious roulette method based on someone's intuitions of non-random patterns being produced by random spins. I do have a problem with repeated claims of implausibly high win rates. Not because I think anyone is going to fall for such claims but because the person making them probably doesn't think so either and is therefore just trolling to get a dopamine hit off the reactions.
"to get a dopamine hit off the reactions."
Now that's an interesting subject.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 6th, 2022 at 12:32:31 PM
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Quote: JackSpadeI don't have a problem with a thread about a dubious roulette method based on someone's intuitions of non-random patterns being produced by random spins. I do have a problem with repeated claims of implausibly high win rates. Not because I think anyone is going to fall for such claims but because the person making them probably doesn't think so either and is therefore just trolling to get a dopamine hit off the reactions.
After 118 pages of going around in circles and generating nothing of value, the only discussion taking place on this thread is a discussion of the thread itself. Yes, I am ironically contributing to the perpetuation of this pointless discussion by complaining about it. So this will be my final contribution to it and if everyone else makes a final statement and decides to stop getting baited into reacting any further, the thread will finally die of natural causes.
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You were obviously not reading it, I post much of value in this thread like how I play. Just because you can't recognize value when you see it is not my problem. As far as a dopamine hit, that's a new one. In 16 years I've never heard that one, congrats. Yeah like I got nothing better to do than post things to get reactions out of you people. This thread is entirely about myself and what I get out of it as far as learning more about what I do in roulette. And so far I've got more than you could possibly know. If anybody else gets something out of it that's just a bonus.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 6th, 2022 at 2:29:45 PM
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"What, me worry?"
October 6th, 2022 at 5:14:21 PM
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Quote: MrVQuote: TBThe thread that should be closed/cancelled is this ridiculous roulette thread!]
As the political and social climate changes adjustments to WoV must be made.
No longer is this site the purview of only math-based threads; due to "wokeness" anti-math threads must now be tolerated.
Try to resist throwing stones at the kid in the short bus, he can't help having his limitations, and tolerating the feeble and the lame is now de rigueur.
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Okay, this is a 3-day suspension for a personal insult, and a particularly objectionable one at that.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
October 6th, 2022 at 10:17:07 PM
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Grinded out 20 bets won 14 lost 6. Not betting every spin, I probably looked at 50 spins and made 20 bets. Took about 35 minutes. In a B & M Casino would have taken 2 hours. I bet differently when I do this then when I'm looking to make one unit. For instance there was 14 Reds in a row and when black hit finally I bet red because when something trends that long it tends not to be over yet and it wasn't because red won. I would never make that bet looking to make just one unit. But because I'm grinding if I was wrong I could easily make it back. This was an easy session because of the red trend I made 6 units off that trend
I can see where lightning roulette would be exciting for some people. You bet a bunch of inside numbers and the computer picks two or three lightning numbers and you immediately see it picked one of yours and so you get excited because it might hit. That's the whole point of it that's how they suck you in. The zero was one of the lightning numbers tonight and it hit and had a whole bunch of winners because they always bet on zero. The casino paid out thousands on that one.
I can see where lightning roulette would be exciting for some people. You bet a bunch of inside numbers and the computer picks two or three lightning numbers and you immediately see it picked one of yours and so you get excited because it might hit. That's the whole point of it that's how they suck you in. The zero was one of the lightning numbers tonight and it hit and had a whole bunch of winners because they always bet on zero. The casino paid out thousands on that one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 7th, 2022 at 12:32:32 AM
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Looks like fun.
October 7th, 2022 at 10:56:21 PM
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I am seriously thinking about taking Mike up on his challenge just to get people to shut up about it. But it won't be making for one unit it'll be for grinding a session. It would be pointless to make one unit and then quit, it takes too long and it takes too long to find the appropriate situation. Much better to do a grinder session where I bet 15 or 20 times. I can already tell you what's going to happen. I'm going to do this with Mike he reports that I made six or seven or eight units what it looked like I was just having good luck. It looks like what any normal person would do. And you all will say exactly the same thing so then you'll want 3 out of 5 just win three out of five sessions and instead I'll win all five and you still won't be satisfied.
Like tonight I go and play Wynn online casino and the first thing I see is 12 blacks in a row so I check the history and 18 the last twenty spins have been black mostly black evens. Number 22 even appeared three times in a row. So what am I thinking, gambler's fallacy of course, red odd numbers are due. They ain't going to sleep forever. So when they finally wake up I start betting on red and it took a couple of spins but here it came 9 red odd numbers in a row and I cleaned up. Now if this was the session that Mike and I were looking at you just say that's luck. When it wasn't luck I knew what was probably going to happen it was absolutely pure skill. Could it not have happened? Absolutely. But most of the time when you see that many black even numbers in a section red odd is going to wake up and black evens going to sleep for a while. Most of the time. But Bob Bob Bob, that's not skill that's just common sense. No kidding, you're starting to catch on..
Like tonight I go and play Wynn online casino and the first thing I see is 12 blacks in a row so I check the history and 18 the last twenty spins have been black mostly black evens. Number 22 even appeared three times in a row. So what am I thinking, gambler's fallacy of course, red odd numbers are due. They ain't going to sleep forever. So when they finally wake up I start betting on red and it took a couple of spins but here it came 9 red odd numbers in a row and I cleaned up. Now if this was the session that Mike and I were looking at you just say that's luck. When it wasn't luck I knew what was probably going to happen it was absolutely pure skill. Could it not have happened? Absolutely. But most of the time when you see that many black even numbers in a section red odd is going to wake up and black evens going to sleep for a while. Most of the time. But Bob Bob Bob, that's not skill that's just common sense. No kidding, you're starting to catch on..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2022 at 7:06:06 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI am seriously thinking about taking Mike up on his challenge just to get people to shut up about it.
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I am still totally available to do a challenge. I do not mind sitting waiting a long time for you to make a bet. As just a suggestion, we could use Zoom, where you share your screen to me. There is a 40-minute time limit to such meetings.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 8th, 2022 at 7:57:06 AM
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Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobI am seriously thinking about taking Mike up on his challenge just to get people to shut up about it.
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I am still totally available to do a challenge. I do not mind sitting waiting a long time for you to make a bet. As just a suggestion, we could use Zoom, where you share your screen to me. There is a 40-minute time limit to such meetings.
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I have a question.
EvenBob are you guaranteeing this bet will win or only that you have an 80% chance that this bet will win?
If the bet doesn't win how do we know it fell within the 80% parameter that it might have won?
October 8th, 2022 at 10:23:51 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: WizardQuote: EvenBobI am seriously thinking about taking Mike up on his challenge just to get people to shut up about it.
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I am still totally available to do a challenge. I do not mind sitting waiting a long time for you to make a bet. As just a suggestion, we could use Zoom, where you share your screen to me. There is a 40-minute time limit to such meetings.
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I have a question.
EvenBob are you guaranteeing this bet will win or only that you have an 80% chance that this bet will win?
If the bet doesn't win how do we know it fell within the 80% parameter that it might have won?
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I won't be doing that if I do a challenge it takes too long and it's too sketchy. Finding a betting opportunity sometimes takes me two days. If we do a challenge it will be with me betting 15 or 20 times in the session where it's far less than 80%. I did a session the other day where I got 16 right and 4 wrong which is 80% but that doesn't happen very often
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: WizardQuote: EvenBobI am seriously thinking about taking Mike up on his challenge just to get people to shut up about it.
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I am still totally available to do a challenge. I do not mind sitting waiting a long time for you to make a bet. As just a suggestion, we could use Zoom, where you share your screen to me. There is a 40-minute time limit to such meetings.
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I have a question.
EvenBob are you guaranteeing this bet will win or only that you have an 80% chance that this bet will win?
If the bet doesn't win how do we know it fell within the 80% parameter that it might have won?
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I won't be doing that if I do a challenge it takes too long and it's too sketchy. Finding a betting opportunity sometimes takes me two days. If we do a challenge it will be with me betting 15 or 20 times in the session where it's far less than 80%. I did a session the other day where I got 16 right and 4 wrong which is 80% but that doesn't happen very often
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Soooo,
Basically you are saying you will take a challenge to see how lucky you get?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 8th, 2022 at 2:11:10 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIf we do a challenge it will be with me betting 15 or 20 times in the session where it's far less than 80%. I did a session the other day where I got 16 right and 4 wrong which is 80% but that doesn't happen very often
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That will be fine. I prefer a short session anyway and the more data, the better.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 8th, 2022 at 4:52:34 PM
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Basically you are saying you will take a challenge to see how lucky you get?
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Nope. I'm saying that no matter what I do you will call it luck when it is actually skill. But it looks like luck, because you don't know what's going on. Annie Oakley was probably the best shooter in history and she was so accurate that she never missed so she was often accused of cheating or just being lucky. She had to actually involve people in the audience in her stunts to get them to believe her.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2022 at 5:17:20 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAnnie Oakley was probably the best shooter in history and she was so accurate that she never missed so she was often accused of cheating or just being lucky. She had to actually involve people in the audience in her stunts to get them to believe her.
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The same is true here about involving other people to be believed. Until some witnesses can verify your claims, I file this with the invisible dinosaur in your backyard.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 8th, 2022 at 5:33:16 PM
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If not 80% then what hit rate are we talking about? We can automatically assume a close to a 50% hit rate. Why not just take the time and do it your way and prove you can get an 80% hit rate.. who cares how long it takes? Just do 100 bets. If you can get 75% correct I would believe you.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
Basically you are saying you will take a challenge to see how lucky you get?
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Nope. I'm saying that no matter what I do you will call it luck when it is actually skill. But it looks like luck, because you don't know what's going on. Annie Oakley was probably the best shooter in history and she was so accurate that she never missed so she was often accused of cheating or just being lucky. She had to actually involve people in the audience in her stunts to get them to believe her.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2022 at 5:38:11 PM
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Bob why not double your entire net worth without worrying if the casino will catch on.. simply make a wager claiming you can get 80% correctly over 100 spins. Heck I will give you 1.5 to one and go 78%.
Bet the absolute min on roulette and never cash out(lose it all on slots or something like that.) Make all your money from the side bets. This solves all your problems.
Bet the absolute min on roulette and never cash out(lose it all on slots or something like that.) Make all your money from the side bets. This solves all your problems.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2022 at 5:51:06 PM
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I don't know what your bankroll / networth is. But once you double it...
Just bet it all on the second round of 100 spins. People will be begging to get in on that action . The casino will never lose money. You can make as much as you want doing the same exact thing you are doing now. You just need a way to prove results. Once no one is willing to put up money against you that would be proof enough. If people are foolish enough to keep going just keep doubling your bankroll. And no one would ever be able to figure out your exact formula. They just see that you are making bets and winning.
Just bet it all on the second round of 100 spins. People will be begging to get in on that action . The casino will never lose money. You can make as much as you want doing the same exact thing you are doing now. You just need a way to prove results. Once no one is willing to put up money against you that would be proof enough. If people are foolish enough to keep going just keep doubling your bankroll. And no one would ever be able to figure out your exact formula. They just see that you are making bets and winning.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2022 at 5:57:35 PM
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P.S. you paied someone to analyze that roulette pattern document. Where are the results?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2022 at 6:02:31 PM
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I don't think zoom is needed( perhaps a few session) you simply need for him to agree to give you access to log on to his accounts. Take note of when he starts and ends and the records should be clear.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobAnnie Oakley was probably the best shooter in history and she was so accurate that she never missed so she was often accused of cheating or just being lucky. She had to actually involve people in the audience in her stunts to get them to believe her.
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The same is true here about involving other people to be believed. Until some witnesses can verify your claims, I file this with the invisible dinosaur in your backyard.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM
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Basically you are saying you will take a challenge to see how lucky you get?
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Nope. I'm saying that no matter what I do you will call it luck when it is actually skill. But it looks like luck, because you don't know what's going on. Annie Oakley was probably the best shooter in history and she was so accurate that she never missed so she was often accused of cheating or just being lucky. She had to actually involve people in the audience in her stunts to get them to believe her.
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And this is why the challenge is ridiculous.
If, for example, the Wizard determines you simply got lucky then you won't accept the results.
You will only accept the results if the person judging agrees with you emphatically. Any judgement as to the worth of your system will only be a worthless judgement unless it agrees with you.
Are you prepared to tell the Wizard, if he states that what he witnessed was just luck, that the Wizard is wrong and doesn't understand what he is talking about?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 8th, 2022 at 6:46:23 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfIf not 80% then what hit rate are we talking about? We can automatically assume a close to a 50% hit rate. Why not just take the time and do it your way and prove you can get an 80% hit rate.. who cares how long it takes? Just do 100 bets. If you can get 75% correct I would believe you.
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Probably 65% to 70% most of the time.. You people are way too hung up on 80% which shows you have no idea what's going on. Mike will tell you I should not be able to have any edge at all let alone one as high as that. I think it's comical that you all rant and rave about the 80% when you are literally in every way not seeing the forest for the trees. Mike knows what I'm talking about. If my hit rate was 55% you should be just as upset about that as you are about the 80%. You should be saying I would be just as full of crap at 55%.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
