EvenBob
Quote: darkozI fully understand what you have been saying all this time.
Nope
Quote: darkozI You are exploiting something that ISN'T there. Patterns that are ONLY in your mind and ONLY you can see them.
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Here's a suggestion, you will never understand this so why don't you give up trying. The only reason why it's important to understand where patterns in random outcomes come from is because if you think they are real you will automatically start trying to apply rules to them and rules never work in roulette. Random outcomes are never governed by rules. But that doesn't stop people from constantly trying to force their rules on them. This is because they are like you, they do not understand what's going on. This is why roulette can never be programmed. Every single pattern in the statistical long-term ends exactly as many times as it continues. How do you program around that.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: EvenBobroulette is always trying to balance itself.
Because roulette is a sentient being? How does roulette ‘try’ anything? Another Pearl of wisdom from EB!
The outcomes in roulette are always trying to balance themselves. You really didn't understand what I was trying to say? I mean, really? Come on...
Quote: EvenBobQuote: CristobalHi EvenBob, can I ask you how many units have you bet since january 2021 when you begging to betting in online casino?
If I understand well you said that you look for 1 unit profit per day and you have a hit rate of 80%. If you are betting for 21 months I will guess that is something arround 1000 units? Correct me if I am wrong please.
Thanks.
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Yes you are wrong. Casino gambling was passed in January 2021 but the casinos didn't actually open online until September 2021 so it was a year ago. I don't remember exactly when I started playing for real but it wasn't in September it was a couple months later I think. I said in this thread already but it's over 500 units. It's only possible to have that high a hit rate because they show me 90 spends an hour. In a brick-and-mortar casino my hit rate is much smaller.
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Thank´s for your answer. Can I make you the last question? How many units ahead you are after that over 500 units?
I am curious because we have some things in common betting, you in roulette and me in Baccarat, for example, both have to do it online because in a casino will be worthless for the loss of time.
Thank´s again.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozI fully understand what you have been saying all this time.
NopeQuote: darkozI You are exploiting something that ISN'T there. Patterns that are ONLY in your mind and ONLY you can see them.
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Here's a suggestion, you will never understand this so why don't you give up trying. The only reason why it's important to understand where patterns in random outcomes come from is because if you think they are real you will automatically start trying to apply rules to them and rules never work in roulette. Random outcomes are never governed by rules. But that doesn't stop people from constantly trying to force their rules on them. This is because they are like you, they do not understand what's going on. This is why roulette can never be programmed. Every single pattern in the statistical long-term ends exactly as many times as it continues. How do you program around that.
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It really pains you that I fully understand you at this point.
I'm chuckling!
But I am also deeply sad that someone can literally say I don't understand when I say the patterns are all in your head and then you literally state yes they are in my head and don't help you win and then literally state how they help you win.
I feel sad that there are humans who suffer so. I suppose the only good thing is they themselves are oblivious to the suffering.
I personally wouldn't want to lose my grip such that I began to make contrary statements, believed in both and admitted to none.
Sad!
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozI fully understand what you have been saying all this time.
NopeQuote: darkozI You are exploiting something that ISN'T there. Patterns that are ONLY in your mind and ONLY you can see them.
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Here's a suggestion, you will never understand this so why don't you give up trying. The only reason why it's important to understand where patterns in random outcomes come from is because if you think they are real you will automatically start trying to apply rules to them and rules never work in roulette. Random outcomes are never governed by rules. But that doesn't stop people from constantly trying to force their rules on them. This is because they are like you, they do not understand what's going on. This is why roulette can never be programmed. Every single pattern in the statistical long-term ends exactly as many times as it continues. How do you program around that.
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It really pains you that I fully understand you at this point.
I'm chuckling!
But I am also deeply sad that someone can literally say I don't understand when I say the patterns are all in your head and then you literally state yes they are in my head and don't help you win and then literally state how they help you win.
I feel sad that there are humans who suffer so. I suppose the only good thing is they themselves are oblivious to the suffering.
I personally wouldn't want to lose my grip such that I began to make contrary statements, believed in both and admitted to none.
Sad!
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Blah blah blah, followed by more blah. I'm afraid I'm going to have to stop reading your posts again, my tolerance for blah blah has been reached.
Quote: Cristoba
Thank´s for your answer. Can I make you the last question? How many units ahead you are after that over 500 units?
I am curious because we have some things in common betting, you in roulette and me in Baccarat, for example, both have to do it online because in a casino will be worthless for the loss of time.
Thank´s again.
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I won every session and I only make one unit per session so I'm ahead 500 units if I played 500 sessions
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozI fully understand what you have been saying all this time.
NopeQuote: darkozI You are exploiting something that ISN'T there. Patterns that are ONLY in your mind and ONLY you can see them.
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Here's a suggestion, you will never understand this so why don't you give up trying. The only reason why it's important to understand where patterns in random outcomes come from is because if you think they are real you will automatically start trying to apply rules to them and rules never work in roulette. Random outcomes are never governed by rules. But that doesn't stop people from constantly trying to force their rules on them. This is because they are like you, they do not understand what's going on. This is why roulette can never be programmed. Every single pattern in the statistical long-term ends exactly as many times as it continues. How do you program around that.
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It really pains you that I fully understand you at this point.
I'm chuckling!
But I am also deeply sad that someone can literally say I don't understand when I say the patterns are all in your head and then you literally state yes they are in my head and don't help you win and then literally state how they help you win.
I feel sad that there are humans who suffer so. I suppose the only good thing is they themselves are oblivious to the suffering.
I personally wouldn't want to lose my grip such that I began to make contrary statements, believed in both and admitted to none.
Sad!
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Blah blah blah, followed by more blah. I'm afraid I'm going to have to stop reading your posts again, my tolerance for blah blah has been reached.
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Ahhh, you finally understand that I have read you like a book.
One of those books you can't put down but keep asking yourself what's the point!
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozI fully understand what you have been saying all this time.
NopeQuote: darkozI You are exploiting something that ISN'T there. Patterns that are ONLY in your mind and ONLY you can see them.
]
Here's a suggestion, you will never understand this so why don't you give up trying. The only reason why it's important to understand where patterns in random outcomes come from is because if you think they are real you will automatically start trying to apply rules to them and rules never work in roulette. Random outcomes are never governed by rules. But that doesn't stop people from constantly trying to force their rules on them. This is because they are like you, they do not understand what's going on. This is why roulette can never be programmed. Every single pattern in the statistical long-term ends exactly as many times as it continues. How do you program around that.
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It really pains you that I fully understand you at this point.
I'm chuckling!
But I am also deeply sad that someone can literally say I don't understand when I say the patterns are all in your head and then you literally state yes they are in my head and don't help you win and then literally state how they help you win.
I feel sad that there are humans who suffer so. I suppose the only good thing is they themselves are oblivious to the suffering.
I personally wouldn't want to lose my grip such that I began to make contrary statements, believed in both and admitted to none.
Sad!
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Blah blah blah, followed by more blah. I'm afraid I'm going to have to stop reading your posts again, my tolerance for blah blah has been reached.
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Ahhh, you finally understand that I have read you like a book.
One of those books you can't put down but keep asking yourself what's the point!
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In my world this post does not exist so I don't have to read it. If I don't read it I don't have to respond to it. Life is good
Quote: Cristobal
Thank´s for your answer. Can I make you the last question? How many units ahead you are after that over 500 units?
I am curious because we have some things in common betting, you in roulette and me in Baccarat, for example, both have to do it online because in a casino will be worthless for the loss of time.
Thank´s again.
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You are correct about brick-and-mortar casinos being tremendous time wasters. I always knew that but I had no other choice. Now that my life has changed so drastically because of online casinos in my state being legal I can look back at the brick-and-mortar casinos and see them for what they are. I will never enter another one if I can help it. Time stealers..
Quote: darkozAhhh, you finally understand that I have read you like a book.
One of those books you can't put down but keep asking yourself what's the point!
Quoted in case Bob missed it.
Quote: EvenBobYou are correct about brick-and-mortar casinos being tremendous time wasters. I always knew that but I had no other choice. Now that my life has changed so drastically because of online casinos in my state being legal I can look back at the brick-and-mortar casinos and see them for what they are. I will never enter another one if I can help it. Time stealers..
This thread is the biggest time stealer of all.
Quote: EvenBobI won every session and I only make one unit per session so I'm ahead 500 units if I played 500 sessions.
DELUSIONAL thinking on full display.
^sips coffee, pets cat*
Next,old EB will try to explain how he's discovered the secret of immortality.
Quote: WizardMy question is are you open to a challenge?
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It is safe to assume this was not accepted (or acknowledged)?
Quote: IndyJeffreyQuote: WizardMy question is are you open to a challenge?
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It is safe to assume this was not accepted (or acknowledged)?
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What was the challenge.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: IndyJeffreyQuote: WizardMy question is are you open to a challenge?
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It is safe to assume this was not accepted (or acknowledged)?
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What was the challenge.
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Well gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
Quote: rainmanWell gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
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Well gee that's probably why I don't remember it then.
Quote: EvenBobFor instance. If I see 15 or 18 red and black outcomes and none of them are singles then all of a sudden it starts going into a chop, there's a good chance that chop will continue for one more spin. Or it could end. But I would bet for it to go one more chop.
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This is interesting because it borders on violating gambler's fallacy that something is due. I will never bet because something is due even though I believe sometimes it is. I will watch for it like I did here but there's more to it, after it starts you have to know when to bet. You just don't jump in and bet it has to act in a certain way. How do you learn that? By making the wrong choice a whole bunch of times. Now somebody will say there are no wrong choices in roulette they are all the same. Nope.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: EvenBobFor instance. If I see 15 or 18 red and black outcomes and none of them are singles then all of a sudden it starts going into a chop, there's a good chance that chop will continue for one more spin. Or it could end. But I would bet for it to go one more chop.
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This is interesting because it borders on violating gambler's fallacy that something is due. I will never bet because something is due even though I believe sometimes it is. I will watch for it like I did here but there's more to it, after it starts you have to know when to bet. You just don't jump in and bet it has to act in a certain way. How do you learn that? By making the wrong choice a whole bunch of times. Now somebody will say there are no wrong choices in roulette they are all the same. Nope.
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Great.
EB has deteriorated to the point he is quoting himself and arguing he is wrong.
SMH!
Quote: darkoz
Great.
EB has deteriorated to the point he is quoting himself and arguing he is wrong.
SMH!
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I forgot I'm not supposed to be answering your posts. Do you remember back in 6th grade they had something called your reading comprehension score? In 6th grade I was reading on the 11th grade level and my reading comprehension score was always high. I wonder if you remember what yours was. You seem to see everything I write as a contradiction. Or maybe you're just seeing what you want to see. I'm simply pointing out that gambler's fallacy is not all what it's cracked up to be sometimes
Quote: EvenBob
Blah blah blah, followed by more blah. I'm afraid I'm going to have to stop reading your posts again, my tolerance for blah blah has been reached.
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As the unlucky wretch who is reading every post of this thread out of a sense of duty, I laughed at this post.
I want a T-shirt that says :
blah blah
has been reached
Quote: gordonm888Everyone on this thread should get one of these.
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I want to order half a dozen of these in extra large please.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888Everyone on this thread should get one of these.
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I want to order half a dozen of these in extra large please.
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https://6dollarshirts.com/i-can-explain-it-to-you
I have no pecuniary interest in the link.
They do seem to be available in red, black, and green.
I trust you can order even or odd quantities.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanWell gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
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Well gee that's probably why I don't remember it then.
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Well gee now you do, so you can answer now if you like.
Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanWell gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
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Well gee that's probably why I don't remember it then.
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Well gee now you do, so you can answer now if you like.
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What is the challenge exactly. Is this a game we're playing?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanWell gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
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Well gee that's probably why I don't remember it then.
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Well gee now you do, so you can answer now if you like.
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What is the challenge exactly. Is this a game we're playing?
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I believe you are playing a game a game your not very good at.This game you play tells me all I need know of your system/method.
Wizard asked if you are open to a challenge. Clearly his intent would be to set up a challenge that would seek to identify the validity of your claims.
The parameters of which could only be obtained through discussions.
The question he asked is not to define it but only to obtain whether you have any interest in discussing it.
We need not waste our time discussing something you have no interest in doing. Why not just say no,
its much quicker than the hey look at how cleaver I am pretending to not know what I'm being asked talk in circles game.
A session is you betting even money bets on roulette for one unit each bet. Unit is whatever you want and can change from session to session.
You win a session if you are ever up 1 unit. You lose as session if you are never up a unit after 7 bets. You said it has never taken you more than 7 bets to get up a unit.
So this should be easy. Just prove you can win 15 sessions in a row by getting up 1 unit within 7 bets.
Stakes of the challenge to he agreed. I’m open to putting any amount of money in escrow with the Wiz as you want. Or if you don’t want to do the challenge for money, I’m up for something else.
Quote: unJonHere is a challenge. You will play 15 sessions. Wiz or someone else we agree observes. We will figure out a Zoom or video way to do it.
A session is you betting even money bets on roulette for one unit each bet. Unit is whatever you want and can change from session to session.
You win a session if you are ever up 1 unit. You lose as session if you are never up a unit after 7 bets. You said it has never taken you more than 7 bets to get up a unit.
So this should be easy. Just prove you can win 15 sessions in a row by getting up 1 unit within 7 bets.
Stakes of the challenge to he agreed. I’m open to putting any amount of money in escrow with the Wiz as you want. Or if you don’t want to do the challenge for money, I’m up for something else.
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A prescient view:
EB takes the challenge
After Wizard watches him for three days and not one wager is made EB says he mentioned that he might not see any opportunities to make a wager for days on end.
Wizard says he isn't wasting any more time waiting.
EB says "see no one understands my system."
Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: rainmanWell gee Bob he didn't really say. My thinking after reading his words is he was just asking if your open to a challenge or not
so as to maybe start a discussion about the matter.
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Well gee that's probably why I don't remember it then.
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Well gee now you do, so you can answer now if you like.
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What is the challenge exactly. Is this a game we're playing?
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I believe you are playing a game a game your not very good at.This game you play tells me all I need know of your system/method.
Wizard asked if you are open to a challenge. Clearly his intent would be to set up a challenge that would seek to identify the validity of your claims.
The parameters of which could only be obtained through discussions.
The question he asked is not to define it but only to obtain whether you have any interest in discussing it.
We need not waste our time discussing something you have no interest in doing. Why not just say no,
its much quicker than the hey look at how cleaver I am pretending to not know what I'm being asked talk in circles game.
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I can't say no if I don't know what it is. I can't imagine what kind of challenge he's talking about.
Quote: unJonHere is a challenge. You will play 15 sessions. Wiz or someone else we agree observes. We will figure out a Zoom or video way to do it.
A session is you betting even money bets on roulette for one unit each bet. Unit is whatever you want and can change from session to session.
You win a session if you are ever up 1 unit. You lose as session if you are never up a unit after 7 bets. You said it has never taken you more than 7 bets to get up a unit.
So this should be easy. Just prove you can win 15 sessions in a row by getting up 1 unit within 7 bets.
Stakes of the challenge to he agreed. I’m open to putting any amount of money in escrow with the Wiz as you want. Or if you don’t want to do the challenge for money, I’m up for something else.
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Do you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: unJonHere is a challenge. You will play 15 sessions. Wiz or someone else we agree observes. We will figure out a Zoom or video way to do it.
A session is you betting even money bets on roulette for one unit each bet. Unit is whatever you want and can change from session to session.
You win a session if you are ever up 1 unit. You lose as session if you are never up a unit after 7 bets. You said it has never taken you more than 7 bets to get up a unit.
So this should be easy. Just prove you can win 15 sessions in a row by getting up 1 unit within 7 bets.
Stakes of the challenge to he agreed. I’m open to putting any amount of money in escrow with the Wiz as you want. Or if you don’t want to do the challenge for money, I’m up for something else.
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Do you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
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Ibid. What I said above.
to ascertain your system/method is phony pile of Crap. I will no longer be able to help you pad your post
count at this point in time.
Quote: darkozQuote: unJonHere is a challenge. You will play 15 sessions. Wiz or someone else we agree observes. We will figure out a Zoom or video way to do it.
A session is you betting even money bets on roulette for one unit each bet. Unit is whatever you want and can change from session to session.
You win a session if you are ever up 1 unit. You lose as session if you are never up a unit after 7 bets. You said it has never taken you more than 7 bets to get up a unit.
So this should be easy. Just prove you can win 15 sessions in a row by getting up 1 unit within 7 bets.
Stakes of the challenge to he agreed. I’m open to putting any amount of money in escrow with the Wiz as you want. Or if you don’t want to do the challenge for money, I’m up for something else.
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A prescient view:
EB takes the challenge
After Wizard watches him for three days and not one wager is made EB says he mentioned that he might not see any opportunities to make a wager for days on end.
Wizard says he isn't wasting any more time waiting.
EB says "see no one understands my system."
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That is closer to the truth than you know. Earlier this week I reported that I went two days without seeing a bet. I only have three platforms that I can play on, Visionary Evolution and Playtech. That's like having three roulette tables that's it. It's not like being downtown in Las Vegas where I can look at 8 different tables in 15 minutes. Fremont, Binion's, Four Queens, and Golden Nugget usually have a total of seven or eight tables going in the evening Those casinos are all right next to each other and I can easily walk to them and look at all their tables in 15 minutes. If most of you totally understood the way I play you wouldn't want to do it because it's so tedious. It's the opposite of a way a gambler wants to play. It's not steady, there's a ton of waiting and watching and making hardly any bets. But it does win, there is that.
Quote: EvenBobDo you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
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I believe screen recorders are a technology that exists.
Some honest researcher could review the video at their leisure and convenience.
Quote: EvenBobAt an online live wheel I can see 90 outcomes in an hour where the average in a brick-and-mortar casino is 25 or 30 an hour. Because I can see so many spins in such a short amount of time this has raised my hit rate to 80%. I'm only playing to make one unit a session because that's all I need to make. I have a monthly goal and I get to that goal by making one unit a session by playing one or two or three sessions a day.. With an 80% hit rate it's usually over very quickly obviously.
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Original post in this thread. Quote truncated. Bold added.
Doesn’t seem like, on average, 15 sessions should take too long. Or is there something not correct about your original post and you can’t complete “one or two or three sessions a day” now?
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobDo you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
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I believe screen recorders are a technology that exists.
Some honest researcher could review the video at their leisure and convenience.
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I don't know if weeks and countless hours of screen recording would be necessary when you can just submit betting logs from the casinos showing each bet and result from the last year.
Of course, this would not show you the results of all the prior unplayed spins, so it would not reveal the pattern watched for before placing a bet, but it would easily show if 80% of roulette bets are won or not (and if they are truly flat bets).
Quote: GandlerQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobDo you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
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I believe screen recorders are a technology that exists.
Some honest researcher could review the video at their leisure and convenience.
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I don't know if weeks and countless hours of screen recording would be necessary when you can just submit betting logs from the casinos showing each bet and result from the last year.
Of course, this would not show you the results of all the prior unplayed spins, so it would not reveal the pattern watched for before placing a bet, but it would easily show if 80% of roulette bets are won or not (and if they are truly flat bets).
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I think the crux of the discussion is that some people believe past performance is indicative of future performance, and some do not.
I can certainly recognize an opportunity for selective underreporting, even if the individual involved would never do such a thing.
We can worry about the patterns later.
Quote: DieterQuote: GandlerQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobDo you have any idea how long it takes me to play 15 sessions? Days and days. At various times of the day. some of them at 3 in the morning cuz earlier in the day I saw nothing to bet on. Even though I have said otherwise numerous times you people still think I just log into a casino make a bet and I'm done. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Finding the bats is the major part of the battle. I said sometimes I go 2 days without seeing a single bet.
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I believe screen recorders are a technology that exists.
Some honest researcher could review the video at their leisure and convenience.
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I don't know if weeks and countless hours of screen recording would be necessary when you can just submit betting logs from the casinos showing each bet and result from the last year.
Of course, this would not show you the results of all the prior unplayed spins, so it would not reveal the pattern watched for before placing a bet, but it would easily show if 80% of roulette bets are won or not (and if they are truly flat bets).
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I think the crux of the discussion is that some people believe past performance is indicative of future performance, and some do not.
I can certainly recognize an opportunity for selective underreporting, even if the individual involved would never do such a thing.
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I mean you can't really underreport if you download the PDF logs directly from the casino's website. Somebody could edit the file, but they can also edit videos if they are that determined (granted this takes more work). (Alternatively, he can give the casino permission to release the logs directly to an individual so it cannot be accused of editing, though this would be at the casino's discretion if they are willing, some may be more than others, I am not familiar with MI casinos).
If the win and bet claim are false, there is no need to worry about watching countless hours of footage to try to determine how somebody sees a pattern.
80% or above win rate, and constant flat betting could easily be verified from betting logs (as well as how frequently bets have been placed over the last year).
That is the great thing about 100% of your claims being done at a legal online casino. The records are all there, its just a matter of taking 30 seconds to navigate to the page and download. Betting records, deposit/withdraw records, promo dollar records (which should not be there if the claim is zero promo dollars are used), and overall win/loss records, easily downloadable within seconds. Everything is recorded and easily documented (if you wish to share it).
And, the excuse of "not having time" can't be used, because this task can be completed faster than all of the posts made in this thread for the last 100 pages.
Quote: unJon
Doesn’t seem like, on average, 15 sessions should take too long. Or is there something not correct about your original post and you can’t complete “one or two or three sessions a day” now?
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One or two sessions a day when I see something to bet on which isn't everyday. It goes in waves up and down lately it's been pretty bad. Three wheels to choose from isn't very many.
This one is gonna go down in the Wizard history books....
Quote: TigerWuWe did it, boys... 100 pages of an epic trolling thread!!
This one is gonna go down in the Wizard history books....
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Just a reminder. EB does not win 80% of his even chance roulettes bets. EB does not pay his bills from roulette winnings. If EB actually plays on line roulette, of which there is absolutely no reason to believe he does, he would be a loser given the number of bets he alleges he has made.
EB will never allow any scrutiny because his claims are all make believe. There is NO REASON to believe a single claim he makes when it starts with ‘I win 80% of my even chance (which actually are LESS than even chance) bets.
Quote: SOOPOOJust a reminder. EB does not win 80% of his even chance roulettes bets. EB does not pay his bills from roulette winnings.
But...but... he SAID so!
Do you think EB is *shudder* "making it all up?"
What POSSIBLE motivation would a recluse from western Michigan who lives like a hermit have for prevarication?
When I was a kid I thought people were basically honest; over the years I learned I was wrong.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOOAs I said before, you either believe that past spins have no influence on the next spin, or past spins (and their patterns) do somehow have influence on the next spin. link to original post
I have said this many many many times in the that past spins can have absolutely no physical influence on future spins. Every outcome is a unique event, the roulette wheel basically resets after every spin. So there is absolutely no physical connection from one spin to the next they are totally independent. Past spins however can influence your opinion of what might happen in future spins. Let me give you an extreme example. The wheel just produced 25 Reds in a row. Would black be a good bet at this point even though these are independent events and theoretically the next hundred spins could all be red. Of course black would be a good bet because from personal experience we already know that 25 Reds in a row is a huge anomaly. You can go your entire life and not see it. So why is it okay in that situation to use your experience and knowledge to make a bet but not okay at any other time, from the animals and why we are able to advance technologically.
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So your view after 25 Reds in a row would be that Black should come next, and the pattern isn’t showing you to keep expecting Red? What about 24 Reds in a row? Wouldn’t you expect Black by the same reasoning? And then when Red appears at 25, you’ve lost. But you’ll make it up because Black of course will appear next, it just came one spin late? What if you’re sitting at 23 Reds? 20? If there can be 20 there must first be 15. But that’s an anomaly too. Isn’t Black due next? But then how do we ever get to 20?
What is your cutoff of consecutive Reds where you no longer expect Red and instead expect Black? Is it 4, 6, 8? You nail it 80% of the time, but isn’t the following possible (likely) with your method?
Day 1 - Red 8x in row - informs you Black is next. Bet Black and win.
Day 2 - Red 8x in row again - informs you Black is next, and it even just happened yesterday. Oops… Red is feeling it today and why shouldn’t 9 follow 8? Seems like a strong trend. Red comes again and you lose. Why isn’t this likely?
Day 3 - Red 6x in row. Hmm… you’ve just seen 8 in a row, and you’ve seen 9… so would you expect at least one more Red and bet it? But Black comes next and you lose. Because that Red streak was getting just a bit long.
Hit rate 33%.
Every time a streak of Red reaches 6, it isn’t going to stop at the same point. It may be done at 6. It may go to 8, it may go to 10, it may go to 25. Are you betting this streak?
Quote: MrVQuote: SOOPOOJust a reminder. EB does not win 80% of his even chance roulettes bets. EB does not pay his bills from roulette winnings.
But...but... he SAID so!
Do you think EB is *shudder* "making it all up?"
What POSSIBLE motivation would a recluse from western Michigan who lives like a hermit have for prevarication?
When I was a kid I thought people were basically honest; over the years I learned I was wrong.
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The funny part is, it's not even a good lie.
He's basically claiming the Gambler's Fallacy to get an unbeatable double-digit edge over the house.... Like, it's not even remotely plausible... LOL.... Usually system scammers are a little more coherent and logical, and you have to actually sit down and do some math to figure out why it won't work, or at least run a bunch of simulations.
EB's system is just pure nonsense from the get-go.... LOL... It's like he programmed an algorithm to just generate random sentences using gambling lingo, and let it loose in the forum.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: TigerWuWe did it, boys... 100 pages of an epic trolling thread!!
This one is gonna go down in the Wizard history books....
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Just a reminder. EB does not win 80% of his even chance roulettes bets. EB does not pay his bills from roulette winnings. If EB actually plays on line roulette, of which there is absolutely no reason to believe he does, he would be a loser given the number of bets he alleges he has made.
EB will never allow any scrutiny because his claims are all make believe. There is NO REASON to believe a single claim he makes when it starts with ‘I win 80% of my even chance (which actually are LESS than even chance) bets.
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Just a reminder, Soopoo has no information to back up any of his claims he's speaking purely an opinion and it's a very bad opinion because none of it is true. He hopes it's true, he wants it to be true, so he pretends it's true. Why he cares so much about this is a mystery, he's a doctor and he's usually the most educated man in any room he's in. Not this time I guess. LOL Maybe that's it, maybe he just can't stand that I've done something that he can't do so he's got up dismiss it like it doesn't exist. That's the only thing that makes any sense because he seems obsessed with what I do.
Quote: GoVolsQuote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOOAs I said before, you either believe that past spins have no influence on the next spin, or past spins (and their patterns) do somehow have influence on the next spin. link to original post
I have said this many many many times in the that past spins can have absolutely no physical influence on future spins. Every outcome is a unique event, the roulette wheel basically resets after every spin. So there is absolutely no physical connection from one spin to the next they are totally independent. Past spins however can influence your opinion of what might happen in future spins. Let me give you an extreme example. The wheel just produced 25 Reds in a row. Would black be a good bet at this point even though these are independent events and theoretically the next hundred spins could all be red. Of course black would be a good bet because from personal experience we already know that 25 Reds in a row is a huge anomaly. You can go your entire life and not see it. So why is it okay in that situation to use your experience and knowledge to make a bet but not okay at any other time, from the animals and why we are able to advance technologically.
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So your view after 25 Reds in a row would be that Black should come next, and the pattern isn’t showing you to keep expecting Red? What about 24 Reds in a row? Wouldn’t you expect Black by the same reasoning? And then when Red appears at 25, you’ve lost. But you’ll make it up because Black of course will appear next, it just came one spin late? What if you’re sitting at 23 Reds? 20? If there can be 20 there must first be 15. But that’s an anomaly too. Isn’t Black due next? But then how do we ever get to 20?
What is your cutoff of consecutive Reds where you no longer expect Red and instead expect Black? Is it 4, 6, 8? You nail it 80% of the time, but isn’t the following possible (likely) with your method?
Day 1 - Red 8x in row - informs you Black is next. Bet Black and win.
Day 2 - Red 8x in row again - informs you Black is next, and it even just happened yesterday. Oops… Red is feeling it today and why shouldn’t 9 follow 8? Seems like a strong trend. Red comes again and you lose. Why isn’t this likely?
Day 3 - Red 6x in row. Hmm… you’ve just seen 8 in a row, and you’ve seen 9… so would you expect at least one more Red and bet it? But Black comes next and you lose. Because that Red streak was getting just a bit long.
Hit rate 33%.
Every time a streak of Red reaches 6, it isn’t going to stop at the same point. It may be done at 6. It may go to 8, it may go to 10, it may go to 25. Are you betting this streak?
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I said black would be a good bet I didn't say it was coming next. Rounding off numbers there's always a 50/50 chance that it will be red. Doesn't matter if there's a hundred Reds in a row it's still 50/50 on the next bet. I never expect anything nor have I ever claimed to expect anything. I simply look for good places to bet and if I see 25 Reds in a row I would start looking for black. Because I'm only looking to make one unit I would wait until black appears a couple times and then bet black. If I was playing in a regular way after 25 Reds I would bet black and keep getting black until I was a few units ahead because from my experience in looking at thousands and thousands of outcomes Reds going to be done for a while. Maybe not, maybe it'll continue for another 25 but that has not been my experience yet.
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I said black would be a good bet I didn't say it was coming next. Rounding off numbers there's always a 50/50 chance that it will be red. Doesn't matter if there's a hundred Reds in a row it's still 50/50 on the next bet. I never expect anything nor have I ever claimed to expect anything. I simply look for good places to bet and if I see 25 Reds in a row I would start looking for black. Because I'm only looking to make one unit I would wait until black appears a couple times and then bet black. If I was playing in a regular way after 25 Reds I would bet black and keep getting black until I was a few units ahead because from my experience in looking at thousands and thousands of outcomes Reds going to be done for a while. Maybe not, maybe it'll continue for another 25 but that has not been my experience yet.
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The post in which EvenBob admits he only has a ~50% chance of winning an Even money wager, and not 80% as previously claimed.
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The funny part is, it's not even a good lie.
He's basically claiming the Gambler's Fallacy to get an unbeatable double-digit edge over the house.... Like, it's not even remotely plausible... LOL.... Usually system scammers are a little more coherent and logical, and you have to actually sit down and do some math to figure out why it won't work, or at least run a bunch of simulations.
EB's system is just pure nonsense from the get-go.... LOL... It's like he programmed an algorithm to just generate random sentences using gambling lingo, and let it loose in the forum.
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It's not a good lie because it's not a lie at all. And I don't have a system I never claimed to have a system because systems don't work in roulette. I have a method. As far as gambler's fallacies go, they aren't called gamblers truths because they aren't true 100% of the time. They are kind of squishy, sometimes are true and sometimes they're not.
