He does not bet pass or DP in most cases.
He waits for a point then bets all six place bets. He takes a payoff then takes all bets down.
If the shooter rolls point seven, then with the next shooter he'll bet all six numbers again but this time with a multiple of the previous bets. One winning bet gives him an overall profit.
He comes to the table with a $6000 bankroll.
In the short time we played together I lost $500 and he profited $300.
I think he just got lucky hitting a couple of big bets.
Your reaction?
My advice would be for him to make pass/DP/come/Dc bets with full odds. He”ll cut the average HE down by about 90% (relative)
Quote: Ace2The house edge on his 4/10, 5/9 and 6/8 place bets is 6.67%, 4%, and 1.51% respectively. That’s how much his loss will be over the long term
My advice would be for him to make pass/DP/come/Dc bets with full odds. He”ll cut the average HE down by about 90% (relative)
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You’re assuming he’s actually placing the 4/10. I assume he’s actually buying it. And unclear if vig is upfront of on win only.
Quote: unJonQuote: Ace2The house edge on his 4/10, 5/9 and 6/8 place bets is 6.67%, 4%, and 1.51% respectively. That’s how much his loss will be over the long term
My advice would be for him to make pass/DP/come/Dc bets with full odds. He”ll cut the average HE down by about 90% (relative)
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You’re assuming he’s actually placing the 4/10. I assume he’s actually buying it. And unclear if vig is upfront of on win only.
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I dont know of any casino that still charges a vig upfront on the 4 and 10 in Vegas.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: unJonQuote: Ace2The house edge on his 4/10, 5/9 and 6/8 place bets is 6.67%, 4%, and 1.51% respectively. That’s how much his loss will be over the long term
My advice would be for him to make pass/DP/come/Dc bets with full odds. He”ll cut the average HE down by about 90% (relative)
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You’re assuming he’s actually placing the 4/10. I assume he’s actually buying it. And unclear if vig is upfront of on win only.
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I dont know of any casino that still charges a vig upfront on the 4 and 10 in Vegas.
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Atlantic City it’s the norm.
If you take your bets down you get your vig back. Is it easier to just turn the bets off, or will they be accidently swept away at the end of a hand?
I guess you have to figure there's 6 other numbers that won't payoff after the point is established (craps & yos), so you have to wait for one of your 24 numbers to hit once before you come down.
Don't try this on a table full of tourists who can't stop throwing point-7's.
You only need to win 5 times on the inside numbers to make your $64 across on a $10 table.
If somebody makes 4 points and comes out and you win, there's your 5 winners!
If I win 70 bets ahead, maybe I'll move up to a $15 table; or 24 wins ahead if I already had a $640 buy-in.
It kinda reminds me of a system I came up with over 11 years ago:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/1907-how-to-win-at-a-cold-craps-and-be-ready-when-it-turns-hot/
It’s got the same problem where a two roll shooter kills you. But with my system, if you hit once, you’re already profitable for that shooter, and can then start pressing, etc.
You are joking, right? Or do you actually believe tourists are more likely to throw point-7s?Quote: ChumpChange
Don't try this on a table full of tourists who can't stop throwing point-7's.