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August 22nd, 2023 at 8:59:15 PM permalink
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Meantime, I can tell how it is. Not how I think it is. Now, my experience is limited to the Nevada casinos only, but at the casinos I play at, no one is allowing straight conversion of cash to check, that's just money laundering. And if anyone is getting away with doing it somehow, it is against the rules and the law.

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Unless you run that cash through a laundry slot machine first, then it’s clean as a whistle and you can get a check.
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Guessing - if this is allowed at the slots, it may have to do with that the system hasn't kept track of the player's over all net in / net out.

The reason they are not allowing the table game players to get a check for other than a verified win, is because they are keeping good track of the net in / net out, and also know exactly what was used to get the chips (cash, non-cash like check or bank wire, or casino credit). It is because they feel that they know exactly what is going on that they are comfortable with turning down requests for checks absent pit verified winnings.

Nowadays if a guy shows up with enough chips that they have no record of his obtaining legitimately, and he can't account for where he got them, they won't even cash them all, not even for cash.
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Yeah maybe. I hate slots and have no idea. Maybe DRich can weigh in on the tracking.
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August 22nd, 2023 at 10:17:42 PM permalink
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Meantime, I can tell how it is. Not how I think it is. Now, my experience is limited to the Nevada casinos only, but at the casinos I play at, no one is allowing straight conversion of cash to check, that's just money laundering. And if anyone is getting away with doing it somehow, it is against the rules and the law.

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Unless you run that cash through a laundry slot machine first, then it’s clean as a whistle and you can get a check.
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Guessing - if this is allowed at the slots, it may have to do with that the system hasn't kept track of the player's over all net in / net out.

The reason they are not allowing the table game players to get a check for other than a verified win, is because they are keeping good track of the net in / net out, and also know exactly what was used to get the chips (cash, non-cash like check or bank wire, or casino credit). It is because they feel that they know exactly what is going on that they are comfortable with turning down requests for checks absent pit verified winnings.

Nowadays if a guy shows up with enough chips that they have no record of his obtaining legitimately, and he can't account for where he got them, they won't even cash them at all, not even for cash. They ask for that player card for a reason.
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I think you are correct and was going to say that but I also believe it's because they are insulated by the fact the W2G's are official government paperwork. You can't get your jackpot without showing ID AND supplying a SS#. That's each and every time (although if the same attendant keeps coming she already knows you and has your record open so usually doesn't ask).

In case you were not aware you can always ask for your Fed government taxes deducted right on the spot and that's precisely what I do (hence I always have a refund to look forward to) They remove a flat 24% Federal.

Perhaps you didn't realize this but getting back to the money laundering possibilities, if say a drug dealer wanted to look legit with W2G's, it really looks good when he is literally paying his taxes on site at the casino.

Why would the IRS be suspicious of a guy paying 24% throughout the year?

For that matter, thinking this through now, your claim that the best way to legitimize the money is to get issued a check? I hypothesize that the real way to legitimize laundered money at the casino is to pay your taxes to the feds on site. You can Literally take the cash to the bank and show you won and paid taxes.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:04:24 AM permalink
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In racinos you can't even get cash over $10,000 jackpot. You literally are FORCED to accept a check. So please stop with the idea you can't get checks when issued W2-G wins. You just are making yourself look unreasonable.



That is not true. There are Racinos where you can get cash in excess of $10k. Maybe not the ones you go to but many will give cash if requested. I have received cash at Prairie meadows in Iowa.
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Is Prairie Meadows really a "racino"?
(Yes, I saw the horse track out back, but I think there's a difference between "racino" and "casino with a horse track" or "horse track with a casino".)
The machines all felt like common Nevada style games, not VLT's.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 4:54:13 AM permalink
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In racinos you can't even get cash over $10,000 jackpot. You literally are FORCED to accept a check. So please stop with the idea you can't get checks when issued W2-G wins. You just are making yourself look unreasonable.



That is not true. There are Racinos where you can get cash in excess of $10k. Maybe not the ones you go to but many will give cash if requested. I have received cash at Prairie meadows in Iowa.
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Is Prairie Meadows really a "racino"?
(Yes, I saw the horse track out back, but I think there's a difference between "racino" and "casino with a horse track" or "horse track with a casino".)
The machines all felt like common Nevada style games, not VLT's.
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I always assumed that a Racino was a racetrack that also has casino style gaming. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the type of games offered. Yes, when I was playing at Prairie Meadows they were offering class III machines. I do realize some Raino's offer state lottery type games but not all do.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 5:40:08 AM permalink
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In racinos you can't even get cash over $10,000 jackpot. You literally are FORCED to accept a check. So please stop with the idea you can't get checks when issued W2-G wins. You just are making yourself look unreasonable.



That is not true. There are Racinos where you can get cash in excess of $10k. Maybe not the ones you go to but many will give cash if requested. I have received cash at Prairie meadows in Iowa.
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Is Prairie Meadows really a "racino"?
(Yes, I saw the horse track out back, but I think there's a difference between "racino" and "casino with a horse track" or "horse track with a casino".)
The machines all felt like common Nevada style games, not VLT's.
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I always assumed that a Racino was a racetrack that also has casino style gaming. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the type of games offered. Yes, when I was playing at Prairie Meadows they were offering class III machines. I do realize some Raino's offer state lottery type games but not all do.
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It's complicated because technically racino is just a stupid slang term. It's not really official. Most racinos refer to themselves as Casinos. Every racino I have ever seen have the word Casino on their signage.

In NYS most every racino has a racetrack However Jake's 58 does not. It's still called a racino because it has a class 2 license only.

Officially However they are referred to as VLT facilities while their signage all says Casino.

So perhaps discounting the term racino, it's VLT or Class II facilities that have the $10,000 jackpot pay by check rules??
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August 23rd, 2023 at 6:04:55 AM permalink
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In racinos you can't even get cash over $10,000 jackpot. You literally are FORCED to accept a check. So please stop with the idea you can't get checks when issued W2-G wins. You just are making yourself look unreasonable.



That is not true. There are Racinos where you can get cash in excess of $10k. Maybe not the ones you go to but many will give cash if requested. I have received cash at Prairie meadows in Iowa.
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Is Prairie Meadows really a "racino"?
(Yes, I saw the horse track out back, but I think there's a difference between "racino" and "casino with a horse track" or "horse track with a casino".)
The machines all felt like common Nevada style games, not VLT's.
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I always assumed that a Racino was a racetrack that also has casino style gaming. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the type of games offered. Yes, when I was playing at Prairie Meadows they were offering class III machines. I do realize some Raino's offer state lottery type games but not all do.
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It's complicated because technically racino is just a stupid slang term. It's not really official. Most racinos refer to themselves as Casinos. Every racino I have ever seen have the word Casino on their signage.

In NYS most every racino has a racetrack However Jake's 58 does not. It's still called a racino because it has a class 2 license only.

Officially However they are referred to as VLT facilities while their signage all says Casino.

So perhaps discounting the term racino, it's VLT or Class II facilities that have the $10,000 jackpot pay by check rules??
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I had understood "racino" to mean an animal racing track (dogs or horses) that had been granted a limited form of gaming license, to allow other (non-racebook) forms of gambling. These limited gaming licenses were sometimes granted as a consolation when the state authorized "regular" casino gambling.

Any racetrack with a "full" gaming license is a casino with a racetrack, IMO.

As to the $10k cash payout limit, I expect that's just house policy because they don't want to keep cash in the cage or file a CTR... but that's a straight guess on my part.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:23:32 AM permalink
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I apologize as to assuming that you have never had a credit card in your life. You were so anti even the idea of using a credit card with a 2% cash rebate, that I assumed the whole concept was alien to you.

So, lemme ask you, do you carry a wallet or just a roll of cash, guinea style?


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"guinea style"?? What is that?

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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:46:42 AM permalink
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As to the $10k cash payout limit, I expect that's just house policy because they don't want to keep cash in the cage or file a CTR... but that's a straight guess on my part.
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No, it's state law. For example in NYS it's the rule at every VLT facility

I haven't played at Indian owned VLT which are deep upstate so can't say it's true for them but all the non-indian VLT in NYS if you win a $10,000 jackpot you can only get up to $10,000 in cash. The balance must be issued as check.

In fact it's not just a single spin I believe. On one occasion I had multiple jackpots totaling over $10,000 and the cashier said they were going to split them up otherwise they could only pay the first ten grand in cash. So perhaps it's more related to CTR issues like you suspect than anything else.

Another aspect of it is it's not the size of the jackpot itself but the cash distributed. I won a $13,000 jackpot (which NYS VLT rules means taxes are automatically deducted) and after taxes just under 9K was left. I was paid in full in cash.

So it's a law against payout of ten grand in cash in one transaction!

EDIT: I have to check but I believe it may actually be more a Lottery rule that has to be observed that a standalone racino rule. That is any Lottery prize over ten grand must be paid by check over the balance. Remember all NYS VLT facilities are run by the NYS Lottery and are technically considered Lottery games.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:56:05 AM permalink
Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:58:44 AM permalink
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"guinea style"?? What is that?

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It's a racist term for an Italian person.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM permalink
I've always felt it to refer to mob guys. Who happen to be Italian.



"Mob Guys. Guineas. I don't trust 'em"

This Scarface scene incidentally comes right after the "WASP" banker declares that he has to raise the rates on Tony for rinsing his money through his bank.

What am I gonna do?

- We're not a wholesale operation.

We're a legitimate bank.

The more cash you give me...

...the harder it is for me to rinse.




Those clunky big video cameras Tony has all around his house, my parents had a couple of those around their house in the '80s.

And the ones that they used to have in banks, I got a hold of one once that was twenty years or so old, but still intact, and took the camera in it apart - what the older ones, from like the '70s had in them, was a roll of film that could shoot a limited number of minutes, activated by the teller for example during a robbery - no continuous filming. When the filming was activated the camera light would glow red, the rest of the time the thing did nothing but deter the casual thief who didn't know better.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:16:41 AM permalink
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Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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Guineas is an Italian racist term. That quote could literally be translated as those Italian mafia guys (those Guinea mob guys).

I carry cash in my pocket. No wallet. Not rolled. Just folded in half. Is there any reason for the question?
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:37:40 AM permalink
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I've always felt it to refer to mob guys. Who happen to be Italian.
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No, it's an offensive term for Italians in general. It has nothing to do with the mafia.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 11:30:20 AM permalink
Maybe, but

"The Guinea as Gangster Hero: The Complex Representation of Italian Americans in THE SOPRANOS"

More of connotation than denotation.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 11:45:30 AM permalink
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Maybe, but

"The Guinea as Gangster Hero: The Complex Representation of Italian Americans in THE SOPRANOS"

More of connotation than denotation.
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Yes.... the author is connotating the term "guinea" with Italians, and using the Sopranos as the basis for his thesis.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:01:48 PM permalink
Uh, no. The connotation is that guinea refers to gangsters, mob guys.

The denotation might be that it refers to Italians in general.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:04:45 PM permalink
I grew up in an area that was heavily Jewish. And heavily Italian. It would not have gone over well for one of us Jews to have referred to one of the Italians as a ‘Guinea’.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:05:56 PM permalink
The term does not refer to the mafia.

It refers to Italians in general, regardless of whether or not they are in the mafia.

Period.

I don't know why you're arguing this.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:18:50 PM permalink
When I was in college, there were some connected or claimed to be connected guys we knew. They were Italian. Townies, not college students. We called them guineas.

There were a few Italians who attended the college. Would not have occurred to us to call them anything in particular.

So that's the reality, and unless you've ever used the term, how would you know?
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:21:06 PM permalink
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The term does not refer to the mafia.

It refers to Italians in general, regardless of whether or not they are in the mafia.

Period.

I don't know why you're arguing this.
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If you haven't caught on when MDawg talks about how Axel and myself refuse to concede a point he was subconsciously referring to himself.

There is no doubt he is wrong but he will continue to try and twist the argument to prove otherwise.

Eventually he will Blame you for being obstinate in this
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:22:37 PM permalink
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When I was in college, there were some connected or claimed to be connected guys we knew. They were Italian. Townies, not college students. We called them guineas.

There were a few Italians who attended the college. Would not have occurred to us to call them anything in particular.

So that's the reality, and unless you've ever used the term, how would you know?
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You may not have known then, but now you do.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:25:11 PM permalink
That's the nature of a connotation. And it wasn't just me but widespread.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:30:16 PM permalink
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Did you think all of these terms referred to the mafia, too???
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:30:59 PM permalink
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So that's the reality, and unless you've ever used the term, how would you know?
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Try Google.

Anyway that argument is kind of like "you've never been in outer space. How do you know there isn't any oxygen?

One doesn't have to have experienced an event to understand what that event means.

Usually Only lawyers and cops make that ridiculous argument. With cops whenever you argue the law they ask "Are you an attorney?" (Never mind that they aren't one either therfore both sides have an equal chance of being incorrect ".

Oh yeah you are an attorney. Now it makes sense.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:38:08 PM permalink
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:43:23 PM permalink
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That's the nature of a connotation. And it wasn't just me but widespread.
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When Scarface said, "Mob guys. Guineas. I don't trust them."

he was responding to Manny's saying, "We should talk to this Jewish guy, Seidelbaum, okay? He's got his own exchange. He charges four percent at the most. And he's connected."

Scarface was using the term guinea as a synonym for Mob guys. Obviously Seidelbaum wasn't even Italian.

Who knows, maybe a generation of college students in the '90s was influenced by that line.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:49:29 PM permalink
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That's the nature of a connotation. And it wasn't just me but widespread.
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When Scarface said, "Mob guys. Guineas. I don't trust them."

he was responding to Manny's saying, "We should talk to this Jewish guy, Seidelbaum, okay? He's got his own exchange. He charges four percent at the most. And he's connected."

Scarface was using the term guinea as a synonym for Mob guys. Obviously Seidelbaum wasn't even Italian.

Who knows, maybe a generation of college students in the '90s was influenced by that line.
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It was bad screenwriting but scarface was referring not to the Jewish guy but the last line. "And he's connected" Scarface was saying he didn't trust the Italians that the Jewish guy was "connected " to.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 12:54:10 PM permalink
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That's the nature of a connotation. And it wasn't just me but widespread.
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When Scarface said, "Mob guys. Guineas. I don't trust them."

he was responding to Manny's saying, "We should talk to this Jewish guy, Seidelbaum, okay? He's got his own exchange. He charges four percent at the most. And he's connected."

Scarface was using the term guinea as a synonym for Mob guys. Obviously Seidelbaum wasn't even Italian.

Who knows, maybe a generation of college students in the '90s was influenced by that line.
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You're completely misinterpreting that dialogue. Scarface doesn't trust the Italians in the mob. That's why he doesn't want to deal with Seidelbaum, because he's connected to the Italians. He's not calling Seidelbaum a guinea, he's calling the Italian mobsters guineas, whom Seidelbaum is connected to.

You're just wrong about this.... factually and objectively. There's nothing open to interpretation. I don't know why you want to keep beating this dead horse.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:10:38 PM permalink
Connotations come from where they come. Misinterpreted or not.

The fact remains that many I knew used the term to refer not to any Italian, but to connected Italians.

All you're doing is quoting a definition without having ever used the term yourself.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:18:10 PM permalink
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Connotations come from where they come. Misinterpreted or not.

The fact remains that many I knew used the term to refer not to any Italian, but to connected Italians.
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Okay, and you and your friends were using that term incorrectly. I don't how many times you need to be told that. It refers to any Italians, not just "connected" ones, and it is seen as derogatory. If you were using it to refer to just the mafia, you were using it incorrectly. The end.

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All you're doing is quoting a definition without having ever used the term yourself.



I don't know what this even means. It's completely irrelevant whether or not either one of us has ever used the term. The definition is what it is. Period.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:20:26 PM permalink
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There is no doubt he is wrong but he will continue to try and twist the argument to prove otherwise.

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You were 100% right about this....lol
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:26:16 PM permalink
You're not getting it TW, it has little to do with whether the term was used correctly or not. Widespread use of a term, implies that it adopts that meaning.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:33:56 PM permalink
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You're not getting it TW, it has little to do with whether the term was used correctly or not. Widespread use of a term, implies that it adopts that meaning.
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BS.

Using "guinea" to refer to the mafia is not widespread and it never was. You have provided zero proof or evidence that its use was widespread. You posted one article that doesn't even support your claim, you've provided one anecdotal story about you and your friends in college, and you referenced one scene from a movie which you completely misinterpreted as pointed out by both DarkOz and myself.

You just can't admit you're wrong. Please just stop arguing this, because you're really starting to embarrass yourself.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:52:04 PM permalink
When did it become okay to post racist memes on the forum?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:56:23 PM permalink
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When did it become okay to post racist memes on the forum?
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The mods must be busy.... I thought for sure they would have stepped in by now.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 1:58:02 PM permalink
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You could waste days arguing with these two AxelWolf and D.Oz over what they THINK should be.

Or just tell them once and for all that they're just talking endlessly based on hypotheses.

And they get verry flustered over trying to prove what they don't know, too.


Meantime, I can tell how it is.
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Tigerwu, you are starting to see the real irony of MDAWG post above.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 2:50:09 PM permalink
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"guinea style"?? What is that?

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It's a racist term for an Italian person.
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Let me start out by posting: TUTTIGYM STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

Italian is NOT a RACE. It is an ethnicity.

"Guinea" is an ethnic SLUR.

And the mods????

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August 23rd, 2023 at 2:56:09 PM permalink
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"guinea style"?? What is that?

tuttigym
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It's a racist term for an Italian person.
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Let me start out by posting: TUTTIGYM STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!

Italian is NOT a RACE. It is an ethnicity.

"Guinea" is an ethnic SLUR.

And the mods????

tuttigym
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That entire meme is nothing but an ethnic SLUR. I don't really care, but...
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 23rd, 2023 at 2:59:15 PM permalink
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Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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And "beaner"? What is that? MDawg, you are now the king of ethnic slurs. I will bet "heeb" is in your college conversations too as well as other derogatory nouns. Let it all out.

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August 23rd, 2023 at 3:17:16 PM permalink
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Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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And "beaner"? What is that? MDawg, you are now the king of ethnic slurs. I will bet "heeb" is in your college conversations too as well as other derogatory nouns. Let it all out.

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He specified beaner means Benjamin Franklin or $100 bill. Although in my neck of the woods we call them Benjies.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 4:36:03 PM permalink
I do not think MDawg should be suspended for his use of the slur ‘Guinea’. He has proved over multiple posts that he is unaware that it is a universally known slur directed at Italians. Had he known that before his post, then he should be suspended. I did grow up in a ‘mixed ethnicity’ neighborhood, and there is NO DOUBT that the term ‘guinea’ is a negative word ascribed to Italians. They Unequivocally do not have to be associated with the mafia.

MDawg….. you are presented with an opportunity here. You can go…..
1. Thanks guys, I wasn’t aware…..

Or

2. Keep making whatever silly arguments you want despite being 100% wrong.


Which will it be?
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August 23rd, 2023 at 5:12:01 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: AxelWolf

When did it become okay to post racist memes on the forum?
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The mods must be busy.... I thought for sure they would have stepped in by now.
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Hey, at least some of the mods have been busy.

I'm inclined to let the educational discussion continue (hooray for learning), with the understanding that I'll be downright uncivilized and hostile for calling anyone a racist term. Ignorantia juris non excusat, so watch yourself.

edit: see below
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August 23rd, 2023 at 5:16:44 PM permalink
I posted the above too quickly. I hadn't read far enough in to see that "discussion" had already devolved.

No more discussion of what's a racist or ethnic slur, please.
Don't use them.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 6:04:35 PM permalink
Craps game music video....Just what is New Jack Swing anyway? Maybe I don't need to know Jack hisself anymore.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:43:14 PM permalink
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Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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I carry cash in my pocket. No wallet. Not rolled. Just folded in half. Is there any reason for the question?
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I always use a wallet because I have credit cards, business cards, and a GPS tracker in my wallet.

But anyway, what you need then is a money clip! Next time you have a couple grand to blow, instead of whatever it is you blow your money on, get a money clip or two. Solid gold one you could probably get wholesale using my connections for a few hundred, the platinum one for around $1000. Retail, double or more on either one.

Here's a new one I got, 18K rose gold (750).


I obscured the front because my initials are there.



It's not the same as the 18K yellow gold (750) paper clip money clip I've had a while, because that one has no initials on it.


I also recently got a very heavy solid platinum (950) one, weighs over an ounce. It also has my initials on it.

You could get one that says D.O.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:47:47 PM permalink
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Quote: MDawg

Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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I carry cash in my pocket. No wallet. Not rolled. Just folded in half. Is there any reason for the question?
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I always use a wallet because I have credit cards, business cards, and a GPS tracker in my wallet.

But anyway, what you need then is a money clip! Next time you have a couple grand to blow, instead of whatever it is you blow your money on, get a money clip.

Here's a new one I got, 18K rose gold (750).

I obscured the front because my initials are there.


It's not the same as the 18K yellow gold paper clip money clip I've had a while, because that one has no initials on it.

I also recently got a very heavy solid platinum (950) one, weighs over an ounce. It also has my initials on it.

You could get one that says D.O.
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There are some of us whose casino money won't actually fit in a money clip or wallet.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 23rd, 2023 at 9:57:49 PM permalink
And...there are some of us who read things carefully enough to be able to know what is being said. This is the money in my wallet. Walking around money.


In the casinos...Remember, I play credit only, and when I win, I get checks usually.

Yes, sometimes I want to make it seem real and get cash, but most of the time I just stick that winner's check into the bank and forget about it.

If you want to make a little wager I'll show you a winner's check for a quarter million that you may verify however you like (actually, I could show you more than one around the same denomination), that it was / they were issued pursuant to verified pit winnings. Ah but, you don't even know what that term means do you, having never received such a check in your life. So, just go back to your ongoing spiel about how "anything goes in casinos," "nothing means anything" and "there are no rules." You should have been a nihilist, you missed your calling.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:02:02 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Quote: darkoz

Quote: MDawg

Yes, but do you carry your cash in a wallet, or a roll guinea style (with a beaner (Benjamin Franklin), on the outside).
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I carry cash in my pocket. No wallet. Not rolled. Just folded in half. Is there any reason for the question?
link to original post


I always use a wallet because I have credit cards, business cards, and a GPS tracker in my wallet.

But anyway, what you need then is a money clip! Next time you have a couple grand to blow, instead of whatever it is you blow your money on, get a money clip or two. Solid gold one you could probably get wholesale using my connections for a few hundred, the platinum one for around $1000. Retail, double or more on either one.

Here's a new one I got, 18K rose gold (750).


I obscured the front because my initials are there.



It's not the same as the 18K yellow gold (750) paper clip money clip I've had a while, because that one has no initials on it.


I also recently got a very heavy solid platinum (950) one, weighs over an ounce. It also has my initials on it.

You could get one that says D.O.
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Are you seriously telling me you paid a grand for a paperclip?
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:06:46 PM permalink
The paper clip (the new one I got, the 18K rose gold one) was retail around a grand. I got it wholesale around $300. Maybe more like $400.

But the platinum clip, yes, I paid $1000. for it, actually a little more than that. Retail on it was over $2000. I will have to post a pic of the platinum one, I'm not using it lately it is too heavy for a wallet sized stack of cash.

Why is that odd? To some, paying thousands for a pinball machine might seem strange. Which, incidentally, did you get around to seeing Pinball: The Man Who Saved the Game (2022) yet?
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