Quote: MDawgWell yes, as in, I don't pay them to come....
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Ummm, are you certain of those words?
Scorpions - Don't stop at the top (1988) HQ - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unjgyphu2-k
Well, it's easiest to have a set goal when you're making up for being down, then your goal is when you're even. At that point you may decide to call it quits or try to end up more than just even for the day. But otherwise, where's the top?
Define Burn Out in this context?Quote: MDawgThe Wizard and I were discussing when to stop sessions / gaming trips, and he and I agreed, when it stops being fun! which the burn out may happen whether you are winning or losing.
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Is it a point where you start to play sub-optimally, such as making Basic Strategy errors or slapping down stupid wagers. Or is it the point where you start to lose because you've burned up your good luck? Or is it something else?
Quote: MDawgBurn out - people get burned out on their jobs irrespective of salary sometimes. Winning or not winning isn't the only index to whether one gets tired of casino play.
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I definitely feel somewhat burned out on the multicarding.
However, I mean I just don't want to physically do it myself. Bored.
I do the sane thing and hire other people to do the lifting.
It's just a hobby for me anyway, I like to win but it isn't always a bed of roses to get to the final result.
NYC woman who filed $10M lawsuit against Mafia family over son's vicious murder dies in Brooklyn car crash
Ace2, so, who set the bomb in your Cadillac?
The bombing was never authorized,
but I suspect I know who lit the fuse.
The real don steel Bob's Big Boy Thousand Island!
But at the same time, been experimenting with this.
I mix it with water just make a little bit at a time.
My wife tried the almond butter - didn't like it, said she will stick with the real thing or Earth Balance. She did like the thousand island dressing though. When I was a kid I liked thousand island a lot, it used to be available at buffets all the time too. Nowadays for the most part artisan salads come with no their dressing already tossed in.
Quote: MDawgWas talking to a friend who plays a lot of blackjack in Indian casinos, in the state where I live. She does pretty well and says she just plays hard tries to get as much as she can. I asked her what about getting booted, she said, if it happens it happens. I asked what about pretending you don't know what you're doing or betting really small. She wondered, why would anyone do that? I said, well to avoid detection, of course I just wanted to see what she would say didn't want to lead an answer. She just laughed and said that's the sort of thing you read about in books any genuine player knows that sort of thing doesn't really help.
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She doesn't sound like a card counter to me.
The proof is in the pudding!
Quote: MDawgA lot of people say the same about you, that you're not what you claim to be, but, does it matter?
The proof is in the pudding!
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You didn't mention once that she counts cards.
You simply said she wins at Blackjack
Are you saying she is a card counter?
I haven't seen any of her pudding, BTW!
Also why so hostile. I wasn't challenging you. She just seems suspect based on what little you describe. A woman who claims to win at Blackjack for no apparent reason.
When I was asked to stop couple decades or so ago, they were just as polite, but more direct. They asked me how I was winning so consistently, because when it happened with me I wasn't just winning, I was for days on end winning every table limit bet I put out there and I was alternating almost exclusively between table min and table max. What's interesting though is that when I eventually was let back in I more or less kept up with the same practice and haven't been bothered since. But I don't just sit there for hours playing blackjack, usually, I win big and just leave.
About the only flack I have received more recently is one of the casinos is saying that it wants to revisit our agreement where I get any session or trip based loss rebate because I am apparently way too far ahead both lifetime and this year for them to keep that deal open. Seems like a preemptive move, in that I haven't asked for a loss rebate from that casino this year anyway.
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Let's get back to this. Do you like Thousand Island dressing, or not?
And if so, do you like Bleu Cheese dressing? I can't imagine someone who likes one favoring the other.
Quote: MDawgQuote: MDawg
Let's get back to this. Do you like Thousand Island dressing, or not?
And if so, do you like Bleu Cheese dressing? I can't imagine someone who likes one favoring the other.
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I wouldn't eat either one for $1000.
Me: I don't like bleu cheese anything because it is strong and smelly.
The "strong and smelly" doesn't apply to thousand island dressing.
What about Russian dressing? I used to like that one a lot too, as a yout, and come to think of it, I wouldn't object to it these days either. It's basically Thousand Island but more spicy than sweet.
't 'Quote: MDawgOkay! but, I imagine, for different reasons.
Me: I don't like bleu cheese anything because it is strong and smelly.
The "strong and smelly" doesn't apply to thousand island dressing.
What about Russian dressing? I used to like that one a lot too, as a yout, and come to think of it, I wouldn't object to it these days either. It's basically Thousand Island but more spicy than sweet.
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I don't like any condiments. I eat my burgers and dogs just plain, meat and bun only (maybe cheese). I guess BBQ sauce is a condiment and I do like it cooked onto my meat for the flavor but I don't put sauces on anything after the cooking process.
Just mustard on my hotdogs.
I hate ketchup.
Quote: AlanMendelsonJust pickles on my cheeseburgers.
Just mustard on my hotdogs.
I hate ketchup.
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That means you are behind.
You need to try some Ketchup!
(Joke please, everyone, read the comment correctly)
Which by the way, it's not publicly known what McDonald's secret sauce is for their Big Macs, but it apparently contains no ketchup — or any tomatoes, so it can't be thousand island based.
Quote: MDawgI wasn't talking about dressing on anything other than salad.
Which by the way, it's not publicly known what McDonald's secret sauce is for their Big Macs, but it apparently contains no ketchup — or any tomatoes, so it can't be thousand island based.
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That was a fun Internet rabbit hole. Most copycats use French Dressing instead of ketchup in the recipe. Internet guesses that original Big Mac sauce used paprika for the coloring.
McDs says there were 2 formulas that were merged, tweaked twice over the years and eventually in 2004 McDs went back to the original version.
I thought that was pretty smart ad copy.
"Secret sauce" and Coca Cola went the trade secret route.
They may still sue or file criminal charges against an employee who steals the formula though, but once it is "out there" in the public domain, nothing the company may do to stop its being used by others.
Quote: MDawgIn general with these sorts of things companies have to decide which way to go - get a patent and protect it absolutely (but only for 20 years), or just keep it a trade secret (they hope, forever) and have no formal protection.
"Secret sauce" and Coca Cola went the trade secret route.
They may still sue or file criminal charges against an employee who steals the formula though, but once it is "out there" in the public domain, nothing the company may do to stop its being used by others.
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Can you patent a recipe? Would that have been an option for McDs secret sauce?
Quote: MDawgIn general with these sorts of things companies have to decide which way to go - get a patent and protect it absolutely (but only for 20 years), or just keep it a trade secret (they hope, forever) and have no formal protection.
Can you get a patent on the ingredients of a sauce? That would surprise me.
What is Subway's chipotle sauce made of?
What is Subway chipotle sauce or subway southwest sauce made of? The main ingredients used in this southern chipotle sauce at Subway are ranch, mayonnaise, chipotle pepper in adobo sauce, vinegar, onion powder, and garlic powder. - June 25, 2021
Quote: ChumpChangeWhat's in that Chipotle sauce at Subway? It's all I'll ever ask for now.
What is Subway's chipotle sauce made of?
What is Subway chipotle sauce or subway southwest sauce made of?
Here ya go...
https://www.alyonascooking.com/subway-chipotle-southwest-sauce/
Quote: DRichQuote: MDawgIn general with these sorts of things companies have to decide which way to go - get a patent and protect it absolutely (but only for 20 years), or just keep it a trade secret (they hope, forever) and have no formal protection.
Can you get a patent on the ingredients of a sauce? That would surprise me.
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Why, shore, why not?
Both the composition and say the process (steps) of making a "secret sauce" for example would at least be subject matter that may be patented. But...the recipe (or process) would need to be useful, novel and non-obvious. Simply claiming that you have the best barbecue sauce of all time, for example, would not necessarily pass muster.
Actually, Coca Cola did patent its original recipe, in 1893, but when they re-formulated it (perhaps removing the cocaine?), they declined to seek patent protection and this time opted for the trade secret route. However, at the time Coca Cola came into being in 1886, it was I believe the first cola drink on the market. Today, with all the cola drinks out there I doubt anyone could patent any cola drink formula, as it would no longer be novel or non-obvious.
On a similar note: I think we're all familiar with Bonus Craps but now another company uses a different name (Boom or Bust, I think) for an exact copy of the same bet.
How is this allowed??
And how did the Bonus Craps people get to use it when Sam's Town offered the bet decades ago???
Quote: AlanMendelsonI'm really interested in the patent discussion.
On a similar note: I think we're all familiar with Bonus Craps but now another company uses a different name (Boom or Bust, I think) for an exact copy of the same bet.
How is this allowed??
And how did the Bonus Craps people get to use it when Sam's Town offered the bet decades ago???
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Is it patented? If not obviously anyone can use it. Maybe the patent expired?
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelsonI'm really interested in the patent discussion.
On a similar note: I think we're all familiar with Bonus Craps but now another company uses a different name (Boom or Bust, I think) for an exact copy of the same bet.
How is this allowed??
And how did the Bonus Craps people get to use it when Sam's Town offered the bet decades ago???
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Good question but Bonus Craps has been around only five years or so. Let me Google it.
Take a look, is this what you were thinking of?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080054565A1/en
By the way, patent applicants must always be individuals, but they may assign the patent to an entity such as a company. In this case the applicants (inventors) were Michael O'Connor and Gerald Williams, who assigned the patent to MGM Grand Detroit, LLC. Typically the assignee is the entity that purchased the patent, although in some cases it is an entity owned by the inventor(s) where they have merely moved it into a company for various reasons, including as a liability shield.
Since you mention the "Fire Bet" a lot, turns out it is patented:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7686305B2/en
The Fire Bet patent expired recently, in February 2022. Both the patent and the trademark for "Fire Bet" belong to Perry Strasi, and both were assigned to SG Gaming Inc. The trademark is still live.
If you can't get a patent, a trademark is often the next best thing. For example you may produce a cola beverage, but there is only one Coca Cola. Just as long as your trademark doesn't end up generic (such as Xerox, Kleenex), as long as you pay the renewal fees and keep it in commerce, the trademark will go on indefinitely.
You might be surprised to note that Aspirin was once trademarked, or rather, is (was) a trademark of Bayer. Perhaps it would have been genericized by now anyway, but Bayer had to give up the trademark as part of the reparations imposed on Germany for WW I. At the same time Bayer also had to give up its trademark, Heroin.
Quote: MDawgAnyway gives you an idea of what might be involved in patenting or trademarking a craps scheme.
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Table games are very hard to patent now. Better to patent a video version of it and trademark it.
Some of the tournaments require a stay, some do not. In some cases hosts are able to waive the stay requirement for tournaments, but if you show up for tournaments enough times and put in no play, eventually you won't be invited back for future tournaments.
If you know what you are doing, oftentimes you don't even have to check-in. But you know everything about the casinos, I'm sure you'll tell me different.Quote: MDawgMost of the offers of any substance I am aware of in Vegas this month require a stay. Not a big deal, just book a standard room for one night, check in, pick up the free play, gift cards, or whatever, and then leave.
Some of the tournaments require a stay, some do not. In some cases hosts are able to waive the stay requirement for tournaments, but if you show up for tournaments enough times and put in no play, eventually you won't be invited back for future tournaments.
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Still doable. You haven't a clue about what, when, or where I'm involved in playing. I'm the opposite of you because whatever I'm involved with has an actual calculable edge, I don't want to publicly talk about it and create competition. If I said I was playing at XY or Z casino or mentioned something specific, I can guarantee you there would be people looking into it.Quote: MDawgThere are those who are actually doing it, and those who are tossing out dim recollections of yesteryear.
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