How about this...post whatever in a thread. After two days of back and forth on the controversy, let it go and don't repeat it.
Definitely. Two days is like industry standard.
Quote: MDawg
How about this...post whatever in a thread. After two days of back and forth on the controversy, let it go and don't repeat it.
Definitely. Two days is like industry standard.
And the high-profile members with thousands and thousands or tens of thousands of posts are really going to adhere to that?
Seriously?
Quote: MDawg
How about this...post whatever in a thread. After two days of back and forth on the controversy, let it go and don't repeat it.
Definitely. Two days is like industry standard.
You know I used to wait two days, but now it's like everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money.
Quote: Marcusclark66IMO. PLEASE READ:
Many of these guys are jealous members. A few are currently panicking as they are starting to realize that they must come up with ever more bizarre alternate theories as to how the Big Dog could have accepted this wager. In other words, they don't want to accept that the MDawg is for real and tries to explain it all away in ever more speculative and absurd ways.
ROMAFL! SERIOUSLY I AM!
Jealous?
I and Axel and KewlJ make money gambling. We are Advantage Players who profit from casinos.
Why would we be jealous of someone else who does?
With our knowledge of how things work we are skeptical as to MDawg claims.
There is a huge difference between being jealous and being skeptical.
Quote: Marcusclark66IMO. PLEASE READ:
Many of these guys are jealous members. A few are currently panicking as they are starting to realize that they must come up with ever more bizarre alternate theories as to how the Big Dog could have accepted this wager. In other words, they don't want to accept that the MDawg is for real and tries to explain it all away in ever more speculative and absurd ways.
ROMAFL! SERIOUSLY I AM!
There may be another challenge in the future as I put it at about 1 percent chance that Marcus is actually involved in surveillance at anything other than a entry level position and I’m not even sure I believe that. I certainly do not believe it’s his name.
Quote: unJon
You know I used to wait two days, but now it's like everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money.
Maybe I'll wait three weeks. How's that?
And tell her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
- Then ask her where you met her. - Yeah.
I don't remember. What does she look like? Then I'll ask if we _____.
Quote: darkozJealous?
I and Axel and KewlJ make money gambling. We are Advantage Players who profit from casinos.
Why would we be jealous of someone else who does?
With our knowledge of how things work we are skeptical as to MDawg claims.
There is a huge difference between being jealous and being skeptical.
That's fine you guys make money in the casino but just remember rules and regulations are for everybody no matter if you win or you lose. The only thing the floor people give is a little bit more leeway to those that lose lots of money compared to those that are only losing a little bit. That's beyond my control. You guys have to follow the rules and regulations across the board. Remember that,
Quote: MDawgMaybe I'll wait three weeks. How's that?
And tell her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
- Then ask her where you met her. - Yeah.
I don't remember. What does she look like? Then I'll ask if we _____.
Laugh all you want. But if you call too soon you might scare off a nice baby who is ready to party.
Quote: MDawgMaybe I'll wait three weeks. How's that?
And tell her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
- Then ask her where you met her. - Yeah.
I don't remember. What does she look like? Then I'll ask if we _____.
I actually texted the above lines to this host at another property who gave me her private number after we went out to dinner. This was during my Vegas 1.0 days. She just happened to be a host (was not my host) I met her socially in Vegas.
I started off with the banter about how I waited two days to contact her and she thought it was cute, but then when I laid the follow up on her, as in “'What if I had waited three weeks' &etc. all the way down to 'Then asked if we'd _____.'" she got offended, I tried to explain that I was just quoting a movie but it was too late and she had already given me the "Don't ever call me again." Nikki line.
Quote: Marcusclark66That's fine you guys make money in the casino but just remember rules and regulations are for everybody no matter if you win or you lose. The only thing the floor people give is a little bit more leeway to those that lose lots of money compared to those that are only losing a little bit. That's beyond my control. You guys have to follow the rules and regulations across the board. Remember that,
I didn't realize we doing comedy now.
I don't have to a damn thing a casino wants and if you follow me you should know I break the casinos rules on a daily basis.
EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!!!
If the Casinos catch me they can ask me to leave. And then I will send in other crew.
What is important is that no one and most particularly the casinos don't break the law.
I don't break the law.
There have plenty of instances where casinos did. Then they got sued
And in the old days (as little as 2012 truthfully ex. Harrah's AC) casinos thought they could beat up, break legs and jawbone's
Sorry that's illegal.
Please address the casinos problem of doing illegal activities and I may have more respect
Really, you are confused? You would think the head of an LV casino surveillance department would be able to follow along. You must really be confused by CoachBelly.Quote: Marcusclark66Please MDawg, confirm?
I'm a bit confused with all the back and forth.
Does Axle have a part of this or is Axel the main money behind the challenge?
I'm really curious and I want to hear it from the MDawg what the answer is not from sideline people thank you.
I would never offer a challenge like this. It gives someone a significant advantage and incentive to bet more than they normally would and it opens up an opportunity for a backer to want to get involved, thus leaving proof of nothing.
In a different scenario, let say a casino promotion with similar terms, I myself would be willing to put the money up for someone to play.
If he loses over his session... he would just come back here and say he played after the Wizard was gone and won some outrageous amount. If he happens to win over 57 hands it is just as meaningless in proving that he wins as often as he says he does. As if an 8k marker is anything special, the same goes with credit lines, they are just credit.
Unless he is making some seriously big bets as he has described in the past, and not just betting as little as he can get away with while making it look good, this is all meaningless.
Let me take this GOLDEN opportunity to remind you of an earlier post where you were not going to engage with me and my oneliners. It's super simple, just block me and ignore anything others happen to quote and you won't get so confused in the future (I think that's how it works, I dont know, I have never had to block anyone). That won't happen since you also love the entertainment.
I took note of the fact that you said you haven't been playing much lately, I was wondering where that was going. Nice preemptive forethought, you are more clever than I anticipated.Quote: MDawgEspecially since I'm not even playing every day, at least lately, I need to keep that comp warship afloat. At the moment we are in one of the largest suites in Vegas, barring what's available to the top whales. If Wizard gets this Challenge thing going fast enough, and we haven't moved, I would be happy to invite him up to see this particularly massive suite where he may see my Vitamin bar in person and partake. Stayed in this suite many times in the past too..
If he plays 57 hands depending on bets and tips his ev is at the most 1800 and could be down to zero. If someone is willing to go to these lengths. Risk a minimum of 10400, which has to be more since he agreed to not flat bet. Then more power to them. I am just making a donation at this point. And if he loses he only gets 1k so his ev is 800 or less. I don’t know about you but I would not put that money at risk for a potential 800 dollars . But that’s just me , assuming I was in his shoes. I regularly risk 2 hands at 3k a hand.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!???Quote: Marcusclark66That's fine you guys make money in the casino but just remember rules and regulations are for everybody no matter if you win or you lose. The only thing the floor people give is a little bit more leeway to those that lose lots of money compared to those that are only losing a little bit. That's beyond my control. You guys have to follow the rules and regulations across the board. Remember that,
Quote: ExpectedvalueRisk a minimum of 10400
What does 10400 represent?
Quote: ExpectedvalueBest for you to sit back and zip your lip as of now
Quote: Expectedvalueplease refrain from quoting me or asking me anything
Why make comments like this to some extraneous members, and not all?
How can you expect anyone to cooperate with your suggestions and requests
unless you make the same requests of all the non-essential participants?
Quote: ExpectedvalueNo matter what any one posts you simply take a contrarian view.
There is no contrarian view, or any view at all expressed by this question...
Quote: coachbellyWhat does 10400 represent?
Quote: ExpectedvalueMy opinion of other non essential members isn’t even 1/10th as low as my opinion of you
So what?
It’s a pretty simple math problem to figure out. You have all the pieces.Quote: coachbellyWhat does 10400 represent?
Quote: ExpectedvalueYou knew my intent with this bet and you took it and twisted it
I didn't twist anything,
I knew of no intent other than what you wrote,
nobody else did either.
Quote: OnceDearThis is the challenge/offer that was issued and accepted. This ONE No other!
There is another, similar challenge/offer in another thread.
That similar offer has not been accepted and may well lapse.
Its terms have no bearing on the one that was accepted in this thread.
Quote: QUOTED IN FULL<<<ExpectedvalueMdawg should be suspended for trolling everyone in my opinion. This is a math based forum wizard. For how long would it take before you think it’s all made up? 2000 winning sessions in a row? Meeting him, will put a name
With a face but in his original challenge he was willing to let someone watch him play. Now he isn’t willing to let you watch. Since he likes free money I would be willing to pay wizard 500 for his time and mdawg 2k for allowing wizard to watch for one full session. Provided the minimum bets and table and markers are as he said. Now is time to put up or shut up. I will be happy to send the wizard or any other mod the Btc upfront upon agreement of this
Quote: unJonIt’s a pretty simple math problem to figure out. You have all the pieces.
I agree, that's why I asked what 10400 represents.
What relationship does 10400 have to the pieces?
Quote: coachbellyI agree, that's why I asked what 10400 represents.
What relationship does 10400 have to the pieces?
A mathematical one.
Quote: Expectedvaluehe may be a mod I don’t have much higher of an opinion of him.
I'm certain that nobody cares what opinion you have of any mods or members,
but your challenge was quoted as it was written, nobody twisted anything.
You changed what was originally agreed upon after the fact,
if anything was twisted it was twisted by you...nobody else.
Quote: ChumpChange57 hands times the $200 minimum bet equals $11,400 total bet, minimum.
Considering 57 hands of $200 bets,
under what scenario does the player risk losing $11400 ?
Would he need to lose 57 hands in a row?
Quote: coachbellyConsidering 57 hands of $200 bets,
under what scenario does the player risk losing $11400 ?
Would he need to lose 57 hands in a row?
If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
Quote: sabreIf a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
That depends what the definition of "is" is,
or for your question, what the definition of "does" is.
Was Coachbelly there to hear it?Quote: sabreIf a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
Leaving out last name for privacy reasons
When I said nothing, the guy said, "See, he's not denying it."
And when I said, "Have a nice day" as they exited, he repeated what I said and added, "I told you."
And then today as I came up, the elevator opened and a small group stepped in as I stepped out. As I headed to my room I figured, interesting, they didn't look like they belonged on my floor. Turns out they didn't. They must have pushed the up button by mistake and intercepted me. I had to get back in, and go back up a few more floors.
Quote: Marcusclark66For privacy reasons you can always p.m., MDawg. Yeah? That way no one's right to privacy is violated.
Marcus , did I ask you a question? Didn’t think so. Carry on
Actully, you probably did.Quote: ExpectedvalueMarcus , did I ask you a question? Didn’t think so. Carry on
If he asks you to stop communicating with him, and he stops communicating to or about you, why can't you do the same?Quote: coachbellySo what?
Quote: AxelWolfIf he asks you to stop communicating with him,
and he stops communicating to or about you, why can't you do the same?
Quote: darkozBecause I am a human being of free will who can make those choices
And the WOV designers made those choices available.
Why do people who vomit the day after they drink heavy still do it?
Why do people who know smoking causes lung cancer still do it?
Human choice, what an interesting foible
Besides, after he wrote "I have no interest in speaking or replying to you"
he went ahead and replied to me anyway.
So I don't take any of his offers or requests seriously.
Quote: coachbellyBecause I am a human being of free will who can make those choices
And the WOV designers made those choices available.
Why do people who vomit the day after they drink heavy still do it?
Why do people who know smoking causes lung cancer still do it?
Human choice, what an interesting foible
Besides, after he wrote "I have no interest in speaking or replying to you"
he went ahead and replied to me anyway.
So I don't take any of his offers or requests seriously.
Spot on! 200% !
Quote: ExpectedvalueI have almost zero faith that anyone that works in surveillance
for a living would post their real name on a forum
How can you tell if someone is posting their real name on a forum ?
And I never claimed to be a high-level surveillance employee, somehow a couple of the members here seem to classify me as such giving mea that title. Whatever it's all good. I am not advertising or marketing or anything of a similar nature on behalf of my employer therefore whatever I post has nothing to do with my employer as I do not do it on their behalf. The same as thousands of other members of this forum do not post on behalf of their employer.
As far as proving who anyone is especially myself, just pure poo poo to the hundredth degree and not one reason stands out in order to do that. By the way did I ask you who you are and why you challenge and where you get your money from and who you represent? Seriously dude get a life.
Quote: Marcusclark66By the way did I ask you who you are and why you challenge
and where you get your money from and who you represent?
Good point.
He should post his real name and whatever other personal information
that he is trying to reveal about you and other members.
Maybe he'll get around to that when his flight lands.
Quote: coachbellyBecause I am a human being of free will who can make those choices
And the WOV designers made those choices available.
Why do people who vomit the day after they drink heavy still do it?
Why do people who know smoking causes lung cancer still do it?
Human choice, what an interesting foible
Besides, after he wrote "I have no interest in speaking or replying to you"
he went ahead and replied to me anyway.
So I don't take any of his offers or requests seriously.
It's called plagiarism when you quote someone directly and don't credit them.
But thanks for realizing how spot on I am!
wow. Not surprised. But still.Quote: darkozIt's called plagiarism when you quote someone directly and don't credit them.
But thanks for realizing how spot on I am!
Quote: coachbellyGood point.
He should post his real name and whatever other personal information
that he is trying to reveal about you and other members.
Maybe he'll get around to that when his flight lands.
This reads as an accusation of doxing. Are you claiming expected value is trying to dox another member?
Quote: unJonAre you claiming expected value is trying to dox another member?
He's reads like he's looking to buy information,
willing to search for whatever information he can't buy,
and threatening to forward posts to a member's employers....
Quote: ExpectedvalueHey Marcus Clark how much can I offer to prove to the forum that you are in fact a high level surveillance employee. I have almost zero faith that anyone that works in surveillance for a living would post their real name on a forum when a simple google search could find them and their employer and forward the posts of them representing themselves as such to that persons supervisors at said company