The Adventures of MDawg
Quote: AxelWolfYOU SAID.....
"You wanna watch a guy bet millions at Bac, and you don't want him to know your name?"
I said" AND HE'S NOT BETTING MILLIONS, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Explain how it is I would be watching a guy bet Millions? I don't care what he claims he has done in the past, that's why we are having this discussion, many people don't believe much of what he says, I certainly don't, and I'm not often wrong about this stuff.
I don't even care to watch him play, I have no interest in watching people gamble for the most part. I have been gambling with an advantage since the 90's... big, small and everything in between I only want to prove he is not playing as he would have us believe.
He could ask that someone deposit 50k just to watch him play. Then the guy plays one hand for $600 on player and $600 on banker and then claims victory. So now theres a possibility of him knowing all your details and information(did you read my post of how this might be possible? You had no comment but you were the one who asked, shall I reposit it again, perhaps it needs it own thread?) along with a CTR to watch him play a measly $1200 with no actual risk to him , other than a few bucks in commission.
I’m not worried about him getting my info. And I have no interest in outing his anonymity or anything like that.
NOW THE BALL IS IN MDawg's COURT. And it's only 5k he has to come up with. Lets see if he is willing to put his money where his mouth is, or if he even has any of his own money. There's no risk to him and since he has been suggesting he is filthy rich, this is like a drop of water in the ocean.
Some people are. He has already been suspended for attempted Doxing or whatever. He also continually took screenshots of some "anonymous" new member(suspected to actually be him) on another forum who was attempting to dox my location and repeated it on the other forums where he brought it up multiple times. Basically, he himself, was trying to dox me all while trying to play innocent that he was just quoting someone else.Quote: unJonI’m not worried about him getting my info. And I have no interest in outing his anonymity or anything like that.
Why did he do this? Well he thought he had a gotcha moment. Luckily the information was not correct, however, he had no way of knowing this when he was doing his thing.
Anyway, where does this 10000 figure come from? Which of the two wagers is this for - the one where I pay you 5000 if you may fabricate An Adventures Thread that is just like mine as challenged here, or for the wager you proposed where you were willing to bet only $50. that I play the way I claim?
One thing you keep doing, which a lot of people here are guilty of, is running with your thoughts towards some conclusion that has nothing to do with what I have ever posted. Why would I ever bet both bank and player at the same time unless I were at a casino that gave no free hands and I wanted to get one at minimal cost, and even then I would place the minimum 100 on each side not 600. And where, in ANY of my session day by day trip reports have I reported betting the same side simultaneously? You think too much. Obviously, the way I play, ending up ahead anywhere from a small sum to a large sum does not involve betting both sides at once!
I don’t judge you for being concerned about it. Just saying I’m not personally concerned. And I’m happy to meet him and have a $50k credit line at whatever the casino is.Quote: AxelWolfSome people are. He has already been suspended for attempted Doxing or whatever. He also continually took screenshots of some "anonymous" new member(suspected to actually be him) on another forum who was attempting to dox my location and repeated it on the other forums where he brought it up multiple times. Basically, he himself, was trying to dox me all while trying to play innocent that he was just quoting someone else.
Why did he do this? Well he thought he had a gotcha moment. Luckily the information was not correct, however, he had no way of knowing this when he was doing his thing.
Quote: ExpectedvalueMdawg I am just curious. I’ll admit I have not read this entire thread but are you literally saying that if you took 8 decks of cards and threw them up in the air, scooped them up and put them in a shoe that there would be a pattern that can be distinguished ahead of time?
What I am saying, is that once the cards in the deck are set after player cut, whatever will be, will be. Versus in for example craps where there is nothing set as far as what will happen in the future, in any respect. As far as what this means or why this matters, I've gotten into this at length more than once. If you don't think it matters, so be it.
Quote: JohnzimboUntil The Wizard validates his play....which will never happen...everything else here is just noise
Exactly! But these people will not stop posting, dogs chasing their tails. 🤪
I added to it. What is the differences? You want me to pick it up and then give it back to him? I was planning on getting my 8k monday, it would have been sooner but I have been too lazy, he asked me to get it weeks ago. If I add another 10k so he's holding 20k would that satisfy you and you will then put up your 5K? I don't know why I picked that number, who cares, YOU AND I HAVE NO RISK, I just thought of a nice round number. GO BACK AND READ MY POST RELATED TO THIS. Quit mixing up the 2 or 3 things. I stated before, I wanted to take one thing at a time(one of the reason i just said $50 so you could decline and we could move on, but you keep bringing up multiple things ad saying the same things over and over(there should be a rule about that). This is basically earnest money to prove you are willing to negotiate fair terms and have the ability to make payment if I or anyone succeeded in your 5k challenge.Quote: MDawgBack when you backed down on your unconditional sight unseen don't care what brand it is 5500 offer for Wizard's watch, I recall your saying you had 8000 or something like that on deposit with Wizard. So, is this the money you always had with Wizard, or did you add to it?
Anyway, where does this 10000 figure come from? Which of the two wagers is this for - the one where I pay you 5000 if you can fabricate An Adventures Thread that is just like mine as challenged here, or for the wager you proposed where you were willing to bet only $50. that I play the way I claim?
One thing you keep doing, which a lot of people here are guilty of, is running with your thoughts towards some conclusion that has nothing to do with what I have ever posted. Why would I ever bet both bank and player at the same time unless I were at a casino that gave no free hands and I wanted to get one at minimal cost. And where, in ANY of my session day by day trip reports have I reported betting the same side simultaneously? You think too much. Obviously, the way I play, ending up ahead anywhere from a small sum to a large sum does not involve betting both sides at once!
I gave you the link to the wager where I will pay you $5000. if you may fabricate a thread that is as convincing as mine. Here is the link again.
which would include:
-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
to back up a faked AxelWolf narrative to rival MDawg’s.
Do you accept that? And if you are putting up money, is that to mean that I get 5000 if you are unable to create a convincing thread, or why are you putting up money anyway. Is this for some other wager? If so, again, What is the wager?
Cool, perhaps he will get some kind of kickback for conning you into depositing 50k (-:Quote: unJonI don’t judge you for being concerned about it. Just saying I’m not personally concerned. And I’m happy to meet him and have a $50k credit line at whatever the casino is.
Don't take that the wrong way.
Whatever the case, I highly doubt this will ever happen, it's been years and the guy has not managed to meet up with one person here, not even for a simple drink.
Quote: AxelWolfCool, perhaps he will get some kind of kickback for conning you into depositing 50k (-:
Don't take that the wrong way.
Whatever the case, I highly doubt this will ever happen, it's been years and the guy has not managed to meet up with one person here, not even for a simple drink.
I wouldn’t deposit anything. Just a credit line. And I have a lot of protections in place regarding identity theft. You have to these days.
If it happens it happens. If not, whatevs. Think it would be an entertaining night of gambling.
I’m just a little disappointed in Coachbelly for not calling out MDawg on this one the same way he calls out others.
That sounds reasonable, I don't know how i missed that, I apologize for that, my bad.Quote: MDawgWhat is the wager? You are an interesting guy. You make offers, claims and wagers and then back off from them, but make a big deal out of having some money on deposit (which was already there anyway) when you can't seem to even stick to proposing a wager and not changing it later.
I gave you the link to the wager where I will pay you $5000. if you may fabricate a thread that is as convincing as mine. Here is the link again.
which would include:
-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
to back up a faked AxelWolf narrative to rival MDawg’s.
Do you accept that? And if you are putting up money, is that to mean that I get 5000 if you are unable to create a convincing thread, or why are you putting up money anyway. Is this for some other wager? If so, again, What is the wager?
Two questions: Who will be the judge of all that? I will not accept YOU being the judge and I'm fairly certain most others wouldn't as well. Can you give me a list of people you would allow being the the judge.
2nd question(or is this my 3rd?) How can someone guarantee they get their 5k if they complete the challenge successfully?
Quote: AxelWolfThat sounds reasonable, I don't know how i missed that, I apologize for that, my bad.Quote: MDawgWhat is the wager? You are an interesting guy. You make offers, claims and wagers and then back off from them, but make a big deal out of having some money on deposit (which was already there anyway) when you can't seem to even stick to proposing a wager and not changing it later.
I gave you the link to the wager where I will pay you $5000. if you may fabricate a thread that is as convincing as mine. Here is the link again.
which would include:
-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
to back up a faked AxelWolf narrative to rival MDawg’s.
Do you accept that? And if you are putting up money, is that to mean that I get 5000 if you are unable to create a convincing thread, or why are you putting up money anyway. Is this for some other wager? If so, again, What is the wager?
Two questions: Who will be the judge of all that? I will not accept YOU being the judge and I'm fairly certain most others wouldn't as well. Can you give me a list of people you would allow being the the judge.
2nd question(or is this my 3rd?) How can someone guarantee they get their 5k if they complete the challenge successfully?
That's too subjective a wager.
For example, it could easily happen that out of ten people, five think your fake thread rivals MDAWG while the other five don't.
My point is you could lose based on a subjective opinion. Which would not prove anything except losing you money
edit to addQuote: AxelWolfThat sounds reasonable, I don't know how i missed that, I apologize for that, my bad.Quote: MDawgWhat is the wager? You are an interesting guy. You make offers, claims and wagers and then back off from them, but make a big deal out of having some money on deposit (which was already there anyway) when you can't seem to even stick to proposing a wager and not changing it later.
I gave you the link to the wager where I will pay you $5000. if you may fabricate a thread that is as convincing as mine. Here is the link again.
which would include:
-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
to back up a faked AxelWolf narrative to rival MDawg’s.
Do you accept that? And if you are putting up money, is that to mean that I get 5000 if you are unable to create a convincing thread, or why are you putting up money anyway. Is this for some other wager? If so, again, What is the wager?
Two questions: Who will be the judge of all that? I will not accept YOU being the judge and I'm fairly certain most others wouldn't as well. Can you give me a list of people you would allow being the the judge.
2nd question(or is this my 3rd?) How can someone guarantee they get their 5k if they complete the challenge successfully?
Of course you don't get the money. It's not a bet, it's a challenge you offered as a free roll. I put up the money to show im serious about negotiating the terms and I asked you put up earnest money to show u have the ability to pay if someone completes it. I don't think that's an unreasonable request.
8k was there, but it was mine to take back whenever I wanted. I added 2k. If you wish I'll get back my 8k and then hand it back to him.. I'll even add 10k more to it if you are going to make that an issue. Just so long as you are going to add your 5k.
Yes, I was getting there, but, I want to take care of one thing at a time(of course, you said it and explained it better than I would have). That's why I asked him to make a list of people who can be the judge(s).Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfThat sounds reasonable, I don't know how i missed that, I apologize for that, my bad.Quote: MDawgWhat is the wager? You are an interesting guy. You make offers, claims and wagers and then back off from them, but make a big deal out of having some money on deposit (which was already there anyway) when you can't seem to even stick to proposing a wager and not changing it later.
I gave you the link to the wager where I will pay you $5000. if you may fabricate a thread that is as convincing as mine. Here is the link again.
which would include:
-stacks of cash
-stacks of chips
-millions of dollars in paid off markers
-casino checks issued for wins
-pictures and videos of high end timepieces
-pictures of winning Baccarat shoes
-pictures of large Vegas high roller suites
-pictures of gourmet meals eaten at casino resort restaurants
-pictures of the television screen inside the suites, and paper folios, that prove full RFB comps.
-actual video of WIN statements while logged in live to player card accounts to substantiate all alleged wins
to back up a faked AxelWolf narrative to rival MDawg’s.
Do you accept that? And if you are putting up money, is that to mean that I get 5000 if you are unable to create a convincing thread, or why are you putting up money anyway. Is this for some other wager? If so, again, What is the wager?
Two questions: Who will be the judge of all that? I will not accept YOU being the judge and I'm fairly certain most others wouldn't as well. Can you give me a list of people you would allow being the the judge.
2nd question(or is this my 3rd?) How can someone guarantee they get their 5k if they complete the challenge successfully?
That's too subjective a wager.
For example, it could easily happen that out of ten people, five think your fake thread rivals MDAWG while the other five don't.
My point is you could lose based on a subjective opinion.
Again, because of your history of proposing things then later changing them, until there is a confirmed and accepted wager, there is nothing much to talk about.
OKAY so we are clear now on WHAT you need to create. Let's make sure you are clear on how long. The Adventures of MDawg concern daily trip reports for multiple trips per year spread out over three years, backed up by year end WIN statements that corroborate the wins at the end of each year. Obviously your posting something about checking in and out of one resort for a few days, and your play during that one trip, is not going to cut anything, assuming you could even present one short trip as convincingly as I have presented many.
In any case, I thought everything out clearly before I made the wager. And I'm not backing down or changing it whatsoever - I don't do that. Rather, I am making sure you understand the wager and its terms. I want to make sure you accept it in its entirety, as it has been spelled out carefully for a week now, and if you think creating three years of FAKED Adventures as I have created three years of TRUE Adventures is easy, and you'll get a "free roll" out of it, te salute, Don Corleone! because I contend that it will be impossible to fake anything like this, absent living it in reality, as I have.
Quote: AxelWolfSome people are. He has already been suspended for attempted Doxing or whatever. He also continually took screenshots of some "anonymous" new member(suspected to actually be him) on another forum who was attempting to dox my location and repeated it on the other forums where he brought it up multiple times. Basically, he himself, was trying to dox me all while trying to play innocent that he was just quoting someone else.
Warning given for bringing drama from other forums here. I'm quite sure I'll know about it if you do it again.
Please try to focus on finalizing the rules of your challenge.
Quote: AxelWolfExplain how it is I would be watching a guy bet Millions?
I don't even care to watch him play, I have no interest in watching people gamble for the most part.
If you don't want to watch him play, then you won't be watching him bet millions.
If you do watch him play, at an average bet of $1200, then you'll watch him bet $1 million about every 850 hands.
You make the required deposit at the cage and watch him play as many hands as it takes to reach millions, and that's how you would watch the guy bet millions.
Quote: AxelWolfSo now theres a possibility of him knowing all your details and information(did you read my post of how this might be possible?
This is a far-fetched fantasy, that I can't comment on other to say that it's complete absurd nonsense.
Quote: unJonI’m just a little disappointed in Coachbelly for not calling out MDawg on this one the same way he calls out others.
What do you mean by this? I'm not following. Call MDawg out for what?
I’ve accepted $50k at the cage challenge. He won’t engage. Instead he is now saying it has to be a bet. Why aren’t you asking him about it?Quote: coachbellyWhat do you mean by this? I'm not following. Call MDawg out for what?
Quote: unJonI’ve accepted $50k at the cage challenge. He won’t engage. Instead he is now saying it has to be a bet. Why aren’t you asking him about it?
I'm not sure what to ask him about, are you sure that he's aware of your intentions?
I'm thinking there must be some miscommunication.
Can you post some quotes so that I can catch up?
Post the $50K cage challenge you're accepting, the post where you accepted, and the post where he changed it such that it needed to be a bet.
Sorry for missing it.
In any case, a while back in the days when BeachBumBabs was active, there was a challenge made with a specific member here who has since disappeared, where he could play whatever casino game he wished other than sports betting, and I would play Baccarat, and then we would see who won more by the end of the trip. And yes, the dollar amount mentioned as the starting bankroll for both of us was 50,000. There was no award offered.
That proposal never went anywhere as the member who claimed that he could win more than MDawg disappeared without accepting the challenge.
It was never an open ended invitation to anyone who posted 50K to play with me, or even side by side with me. In fact, one of the things the other member was adamant about was that he be able to play whatever he wanted, not Baccarat, but again, the wager went nowhere.
This later morphed into a wager where AxelWolf proposed that he would play side by side with me at Baccarat as long as I covered his losses, which meant that I would be effectively bankrolling him. Of course, I nixed such a proposition.
Quote: coachbellyI'm not sure what to ask him about, are you sure that he's aware of your intentions?
I'm thinking there must be some miscommunication.
Can you post some quotes so that I can catch up?
Post the $50K cage challenge you're accepting, the post where you accepted, and the post where he changed it such that it needed to be a bet.
You are the one that quoted several times the drop $50k in the cage challenge. See above where MDawg has backed off of it.
DarkOz understood what was going on though, that there has always been more to it than just "prove you have a couple shekels" and then you may watch MDawg. There has always been and should be some kind of wager around the whole thing, which makes sure that the person involved has a high enough dollar stake and won't be there just to find out who I am and possibly cause me grief.
Quote: unJonYou are the one that quoted several times the drop $50k in the cage challenge.
I misunderstood it to be an open invitation.
Can you post the quotes that I requested?
Quote: coachbellyI misunderstood it to be an open invitation.
Can you post the quotes that I requested?
No. I’m not going to go find your post where you quoted the challenge that MDawg is now saying you got wrong. You have all the quotes whenever you think anyone else is shirking a challenge but can’t find your own post in this case? That’s actually quite funny.
MDawg, all good, man. Keep doing your thing that gives you joy.
Quote: unJonNo. I’m not going to go find your post where you quoted the challenge that MDawg is now saying you got wrong. You have all the quotes whenever you think anyone else is shirking a challenge but can’t find your own post in this case?
I think you are confused...I'm not asking you to find my post quoting his challenge.
I'm asking you to find his challenge post that you claim I quoted...also the post where you claim you accepted, and the post where you claim he changed it to a bet.
But I can't force you to back up your claims with actual quotes.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
Oh gee, I wonder how it is that you know about this? I assume it's the same reason for all suspensions caused by him and his drama.Quote: WizardWarning given for bringing drama from other forums here. I'm quite sure I'll know about it if you do it again.
Please try to focus on finalizing the rules of your challenge.
Sure, that's cool, I respect the warning and you, BUT, I wouldn't call it drama, it's a serious issue that he should be ashamed of. I thought certain things of importances were allowed across forums. I think this would qualify.
I can see why you gave me a stern warning, I can only imagine it must have hit home with him being that it was such low down crappy thing to do and he would like for people to forget about it. I may not resist doing it again, if I feel it's the right thing to do. Warning someone of a potential l doxing from someone who seems to have a proclivity for such things is certainly worth a suspension.
Speaking of drama and warnings, I didn't see any warnings when he went out of his way to start an ENTIRE thread in an attempt to disparage, troll and cause drama with me.
Quote: MDawgOne thing I'll say is that it's hard to find anything at this forum unless you already know exactly what you're looking for, and even then the forum search barely functions. You're usually better off just searching within Google, but again, even then - only if you know exactly what you are looking for.
Guys, it upsets me to see so many people worked up over this. I have a solution & please 🙏 hear me out. Why don't we setting the dispute once and for all with video evidence???
MDawg has the money so he surely could buy these spy glasses to record his runs in the casino. Maybe even find some more expensive spy glasses.
https://www.amazon.com/Glasses-Detection-Activated-Real-time-Remotely/dp/B07RMY539S
I think these should be the rules for the challenge:
1. Challenge must be live-streamed, will not accept any pre-recorded video evidence.
2. You must state the exact amount of money in which you will be gambling prior to attempting the challenge.
3. Your minimum bet amount must be equal to or greater than 1% of your gambling amount chosen.
4. Your maximum bet amount must be equal to or less than 5% of your gambling amount chosen.
5. The total sum of all your bets during this challenge must equal the exact sum of your gambling amount chosen in order to complete the challenge.
6. All bets must be on the banker or player to rule out extreme variance. (Saying you have a system mean repetitive results not just getting lucky and hitting a dragon).
You are deemed the winner of the challenge if after it's completion you have a winning profit of
Betting Banker has a 1.06% house edge but I'm not sure what profit percentage would convince WoV since there is already talk of ridiculous standard deviations for explaining the MDawg effect. All I can say is that I would be convinced if MDawg could 150% whatever gambling amount he chooses.
MDawg, do you accept the challenge?
lets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for ]$200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?Quote: MDawgIf you're not going to follow through on the wager which you proposed yourself, which is that I do not play as I claim, then I still don't see the point in your having money on deposit with the Wizard, as this wager we discuss right now, does not involve your paying me anything. Which, again, your money was already with the Wizard for some time, so your affirming that it remains there doesn't represent much effort on your part, wouldn't you say?
Quote: AxelWolflets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for ]$200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?
I understand your position & you have a right to be upset but think of the opportunity I'm offering here. MDawg can't possibly fake a live stream of his talents and you could even move your bet to the live stream challenge so you still get your $50 in good ;) This is a win-win for you, don't give MDawg the opportunity to reject the live stream challenge because of your original challenge which seems to be much more difficult to pull off.
Just think MDawg could order the spy glasses and take the challenge & all of this will be over and I can stop seeing this retarded thread every day on this forum ;)
So you quoted a challenge by MDawg and can’t find the post you quoted?Quote: coachbellyI think you are confused...I'm not asking you to find my post quoting his challenge.
I'm asking you to find his challenge post that you claim I quoted...also the post where you claim you accepted, and the post where you claim he changed it to a bet.
But I can't force you to back up your claims with actual quotes.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
I accepted related to your quoted post. You said “that’s the spirit”. Do you remember that?
I Allready said I would donate a spy pen for him to record a few hands making big bets. He wasn't willing to do that.Quote: USpapergamesI understand your position & you have a right to be upset but think of the opportunity I'm offering here. MDawg can't possibly fake a live stream of his talents and you could even move your bet to the live stream challenge so you still get your $50 in good ;) This is a win-win for you, don't give MDawg the opportunity to reject the live stream challenge because of your original challenge which seems to be much more difficult to pull off.
Just think MDawg could order the spy glasses and take the challenge & all of this will be over and I can stop seeing this retarded thread every day on this forum ;)
Aside from that, a live stream could be deceptive since there could be someone betting opposites.
Quote: unJonQuote: coachbellyDeposit money in the cage and go watch him play if you don't believe him, stop trying to get others to do your dirty work for you.
If a trip of mine and MDawg’s to Vegas ever lined up, I would be happy to meet up and play with him or watch him play. Happy to show him a $50k credit line at whatever the casino is, if that was part of needing to establish bona fides.
Coachbelly is this post from you (a) accurate as to a challenge, (b) intentionally inaccurate or (b) unintentionally inaccurate?
Quote: unJonCoachbelly is this post from you (a) accurate as to a challenge, (b) intentionally inaccurate or (b) unintentionally inaccurate?
Regarding your reply to my post, I'm not sure that showing him a line of credit meets the criteria of making a cash deposit at the cage. I would argue, based on the specific language used, that no...it does not.
I may have misunderstood that the challenge was an open invitation to anyone.
I'll need to research that, but I can't get to it until Monday.
I will be available for other banter after 800pm EST Saturday & Sunday.
If there's anything else I can help you with, forward a list and I'll address it ASAP.
Quote: SOOPOOFact. OnceDear is a moderator
Fact. OnceDear has pointed out trolling by CoachBelly
Fact. OnceDear as a moderator is supposed to suspend those he identifies as trolling
Question. Why is CoachBelly not suspended?
I agree
Mdawg is in that category
It's pretty shocking to me the Wizard let's this all go.
I've seen a lot insults from the dawg and belly against long time members
The whole thread is a troll on the forum
Coming onto a forum bragging that you are beating a negative ev game on a math forum when the absolute reality is a casino donation strategy.
The wizard is making a big mistake letting this BS go on
Quote: terapinedI agree
Mdawg is in that category
It's pretty shocking to me the Wizard let's this all go.
I've seen a lot insults from the dawg and belly against long time members
The whole thread is a troll on the forum
Coming onto a forum bragging that you are beating a negative ev game on a math forum when the absolute reality is a casino donation strategy.
The wizard is making a big mistake letting this BS go on
I can't explain why, but I think the Wizard should let this thread continue. It is up to you and me and Axel and others to point out the BS, in a tactful way. If MD is banned, who will I get my stock picks from?
Quote: SOOPOOI can't explain why, but I think the Wizard should let this thread continue. It is up to you and me and Axel and others to point out the BS, in a tactful way. If MD is banned, who will I get my stock picks from?
Its fantasy fiction being presented as fact
I expect more from a math board
Did the board lose a ton of hits banning politics and to get those hits back, they are allowing fiction disguised as fact controversy to get all those hits back?
I dont come here for fiction, I'll read Lee Child for that
I come here for math facts and stories concerning facts, not fantasy fiction
I gave you SMG
Quote: SOOPOOIf MD is banned, who will I get my stock picks from?
His parents? Probably where he got his money from :)
Quote: AxelWolfI Allready said I would donate a spy pen for him to record a few hands making big bets. He wasn't willing to do that.
Aside from that, a live stream could be deceptive since there could be someone betting opposites.
AxelWolf, you seem like a very intelligent guy, please listen to my logic. You don't want him accepting your offer for the spy pen because he could just take as many recordings as he likes till he gets a lucky swing. It doesn't matter if he has someone betting opposites, the point of the challenge is to see if he can achieve his winnings on command & when he wants to, not whether he is up or down in his bankroll. Let's say he does just what you're insinuating, so what? He still loses the challenge because the only money we are going to care about is the money that was generated from the establishing betting amount that he chose prior to the challenge!!!
Please think it over, my challenge just makes more sense. Can't fake a live stream!
Well I appreciate that but, I don't know about "very intelligent" I'm not even sure how you qualify intelligence, there seems to be so many categories, I'm certainly not going to win any academic Awards. If you're ever playing will AxelWolf know and a question about geography, math or spelling comes up you should probably bet against me. Ask me a strategy question about a video poker game I have not ever even played, you probably shouldn't bet against me.Quote: USpapergamesAxelWolf, you seem like a very intelligent guy, please listen to my logic. You don't want him accepting your offer for the spy pen because he could just take as many recordings as he likes till he gets a lucky swing. It doesn't matter if he has someone betting opposites, the point of the challenge is to see if he can achieve his winnings on command & when he wants to, not whether he is up or down in his bankroll. Let's say he does just what you're insinuating, so what? He still loses the challenge because the only money we are going to care about is the money that was generated from the establishing betting amount that he chose prior to the challenge!!!
Please think it over, my challenge just makes more sense. Can't fake a live stream!
I do however, think I'm good at thinking outside the box, sniffing out b*******, understanding people, and I have a pretty good sense of logic. I think I'm really good at quickly knowing who knows what they're doing/ talking about, who's very intelligent, and spotting who's good at what and who can accomplish what, even if it's in a field I know very little about. Even if there's things I don't know how to do or something I can't accomplish myself, I'm very good at figuring out how to get it done one way or another. Show me a casino promotion or situation and if there's a way to AP it, I'll most likely figure it out one way or another.
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I totally understand your logic and I know most all the tricks in the book. I think people are confusing the bets and where I stand on all this.
I'm not out to prove if he's a long-term winner or loser or if he has some crazy method to beat Baccarat, because I know for a fact you can't beat a negative expectation game if the math doesn't add up to over 100%, there's no way to trick the math.
My theory is that this is all a hoax and there's NO big betting, NO fancy watches and whatever else he has been claiming in the first place.
Basically, this guy is highly insulting with a lot of what he posts - with zero back up. On the other hand, I have pointed out instances where he has proven that he has no concept of how markers even work - where he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out meant that it had been paid and was being posted at the end of the session, and where he assumed that a seven figure table game player would cash out in cash (versus say, bank wire), and where he kept asking such a seven figure table game winner to "show him the CTR" that he thought was a slip of paper that would be handed to him. These sorts of slip ups are demonstrable evidence that high end table play is well beyond this guy's ken. When I say something against AxelWolf, I provide evidence to establish that he doesn't know what he is talking about. And I don't insult him, I just point out where, when and how he is wrong. When he insults me, he has zero back up.
I mean come on, the only Rolex this guy owns he told us is a fake - so of course he'd be mind boggled by someone who has something real. His Rolex is fake, so he assumes the rest of the world must have fakes too. I'll spend a little time responding to his insults, but over all, it just shows where he is coming from - he is not the peer of high rollers.
He did spend some time telling us how he came up from the street, starting with nothing. He felt the need to tell us that. But it would seem that someone like that apparently doesn't understand nor can he relate to the world that is above that street level, or else he wouldn't keep making slip ups that show us his lack of knowledge of the real thing.
I'm pretty sure that AxelWolf is the only person on this entire forum who disbelieves that the high rolling is going on. There are some who question whether I can keep winning, etc., but he's standing alone in claiming "that it is all a hoax." And in any case, if anyone else including AxelWolf thinks it is all a hoax, it would be nice to see some evidence versus just insults.
It's not complete absurd nonsense because I have known similar things to have happened.Quote: coachbellyIf you don't want to watch him play, then you won't be watching him bet millions.
If you do watch him play, at an average bet of $1200, then you'll watch him bet $1 million about every 850 hands.
You make the required deposit at the cage and watch him play as many hands as it takes to reach millions, and that's how you would watch the guy bet millions.
This is a far-fetched fantasy, that I can't comment on other to say that it's complete absurd nonsense.
There you go trolling again. You were indicating that since I would be there watching a guy bet Millions it seems a reasonable that he know my name. I might even agree with that, however, The fact is there wasn't going to be a situation where I would be watching him bet millions. You overstated the Millions, I called you on it and now you're trying to do what you do and make up some nonsense.
it's all dribble just trying to cloud everything up with nonsense.Quote: MDawgHowever, he's only willing to bet $50. to try to disprove this, and he is unable to post a three year long faked thread that would come anywhere close to the genuine one that I have posted.
Basically, this guy is highly insulting with a lot of that he posts - with zero back up. On the other hand, I have pointed out instances where he has proven that he has no concept of how markers even work - where he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out meant that it had been paid, and where he assumed that a seven figure table game player would cash out in cash (versus say, bank wire), and where he kept asking such a seven figure table game winner to "show him the CTR" that he thought was a slip of paper that would be handed to him. These sorts of slip ups are demonstrable evidence that high end table play is well beyond this guy's ken. When I say something against AxelWolf, I provide evidence to establish that he doesn't know what he is talking about. And I don't insult him, I just point out where, why and how he is wrong. When he insults me, he has zero back up.
I mean come on, the only Rolex this guy owns he told us is a fake - so of course he'd be mind boggled by someone who has something real. His Rolex is fake, so he assumes the rest of the world must have fakes too. I'll spend a little time responding to his insults, but over all, it just shows where he is coming from - he is not the peer of high rollers.
He did spend some time telling us how he came up from the street, starting with nothing. He felt the need to tell us that. But it would seem that someone like that apparently doesn't understand nor can he relate to the world that is above that street level, or else he wouldn't keep making slip ups that show us his lack of knowledge of the real thing.
Quote: AxelWolflets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for $200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?
Quote: AxelWolflets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for $200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?
Two questions: Who will be the judge of all that? I will not accept YOU being the judge and I'm fairly certain most others wouldn't as well. Can you give me a list of people you would allow being the the judge.Quote: MDawg
2nd question(or is this my 3rd?) How can someone guarantee they get their 5k if they complete the challenge successfully?
Dribble is accusing someone of perpetrating a hoax with zero evidence or back up for the insulting accusation.Quote: AxelWolfit's all dribble
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My theory is that this is all a hoax and there's NO big betting, NO fancy watches and whatever else he has been claiming in the first place.
Evidence is saying that someone is wrong, and presenting instances to show when, where and how he has been wrong.
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Basically, this guy is highly insulting with a lot of what he posts - with zero back up. On the other hand, I have pointed out instances where he has proven that he has no concept of how markers even work - where he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out meant that it had been paid and was being posted at the end of the session, and where he assumed that a seven figure table game player would cash out in cash (versus say, bank wire), and where he kept asking such a seven figure table game winner to "show him the CTR" that he thought was a slip of paper that would be handed to him. These sorts of slip ups are demonstrable evidence that high end table play is well beyond this guy's ken. When I say something against AxelWolf, I provide evidence to establish that he doesn't know what he is talking about. And I don't insult him, I just point out where, when and how he is wrong. When he insults me, he has zero back up.
I mean come on, the only Rolex this guy owns he told us is a fake - so of course he'd be mind boggled by someone who has something real. His Rolex is fake, so he assumes the rest of the world must have fakes too. I'll spend a little time responding to his insults, but over all, it just shows where he is coming from - he is not the peer of high rollers.
As far as the wager:
We haven't even gotten to where you accept the wager. Given your proclivity for making offers, claims and wagers, and then backing out by inserting qualifiers after the fact - let's start with your understanding the exact terms. Please read to the end and say I ACCEPT.
