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September 16th, 2019 at 1:23:48 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Not directed at the situation or anyone in particular such as d'Alembert. I have seen some seemingly smart people become real stupid, especially when it comes to gambling and other things involving money.
You know, riding buses, scavenging through leftover food, horrible Investments, day trading, bad money management, roulette and Baccarat systems, thinking dice control actually works and the list goes on and on and on and on.
We want to get into all the sexual perversion stuff.



I think this is likely the winning answer.

Ain't nobody smarter than Newton. Newton believed in alchemy just as much as he believed physics.

As a broader proposition, we, especially those of us a bit smarter than the average bear, like to think that our minds, or human minds, are mechanisms for perceiving truth. In reality, they are mechanisms for survival and the passing on of genes. There is all kinds of kookiness going on in there, no matter how good you are at manipulating numbers or spinning words.

Gambling draws out irrational thinking like nothing else. I mean, if it didn't it wouldn't exist. You can actually put up an advertisement proudly declaring that you have a machine that takes your money, and then gives 99% of it back, and people will travel from around the world to use it. If I set up a shop where you could bring me your sandwich or burger and let me take a bite out of it, or let me make out with your wife a little, or stop by and have some of your gas siphoned, I suspect I'd get few customers. But somehow, people like giving away their money gambling.

Those of us who understand gamblin' have all had many experiences of trying to explain something to reasonably intelligent people and hitting a brick wall.

I'm still kind of amazed when I listen to random people in a sportsbook talking. Or at the beliefs held by many who work in casinos. Many of them are far more successful than I am, but they sound like primitive tribesman talking about the god of the river when discussing gambling.
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September 16th, 2019 at 1:29:05 PM permalink
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If you want a long time at the tables with minimal risk, then flat bet.


If you want a pretty much guaranteed loss over time, flat bet.
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September 16th, 2019 at 1:32:43 PM permalink
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"I would still stand behind flat betting.
Let's say you have 10 units and want it to last as long as possible before going bust. Your best choice is to flat bet."


gAMBLERS GAMBLE TO MAKE A PROFIT NOT TO LAST FOR AS MANY ORGASMS AS THE LADY ASKS...

"D’ALEMBERT WAS NO IDIOT... BUT WIZARD OF OX IS?"



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September 16th, 2019 at 1:36:22 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

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Those of us who understand gamblin' have all had many experiences of trying to explain something to reasonably intelligent people and hitting a brick wall.



Gave that up years ago. They look
at you like you have a fat dog turd
stuck to the bottom of your shoe
and you're offending them.
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September 16th, 2019 at 2:23:56 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I think this is likely the winning answer.

Ain't nobody smarter than Newton. Newton believed in alchemy just as much as he believed physics.

As a broader proposition, we, especially those of us a bit smarter than the average bear, like to think that our minds, or human minds, are mechanisms for perceiving truth. In reality, they are mechanisms for survival and the passing on of genes. There is all kinds of kookiness going on in there, no matter how good you are at manipulating numbers or spinning words.

Gambling draws out irrational thinking like nothing else. I mean, if it didn't it wouldn't exist. You can actually put up an advertisement proudly declaring that you have a machine that takes your money, and then gives 99% of it back, and people will travel from around the world to use it. If I set up a shop where you could bring me your sandwich or burger and let me take a bite out of it, or let me make out with your wife a little, or stop by and have some of your gas siphoned, I suspect I'd get few customers. But somehow, people like giving away their money gambling.

Those of us who understand gamblin' have all had many experiences of trying to explain something to reasonably intelligent people and hitting a brick wall.

I'm still kind of amazed when I listen to random people in a sportsbook talking. Or at the beliefs held by many who work in casinos. Many of them are far more successful than I am, but they sound like primitive tribesman talking about the god of the river when discussing gambling.




Great post. I truly think this site has a majority, yes a majority of the gamblers in the world who have common world sense. Some may complain about the word “gambler”, but it’s semantics.

As Rig says, amazing how many “smart” successful people in life are willing to throw hard earned money away in the name of entertainment. And worse, how many think they have an edge or have it figured out.
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September 16th, 2019 at 2:42:57 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Great post. I truly think this site has a majority, yes a majority of the gamblers in the world who have common world sense. Some may complain about the word “gambler”, but it’s semantics.

As Rig says, amazing how many “smart” successful people in life are willing to throw hard earned money away in the name of entertainment. And worse, how many think they have an edge or have it figured out.



The weirdest thing is that the entertainment IS the process of losing money.

It's not like you're giving your money away for a chemical intoxication, or to look at a hot woman taking off her clothes. You are giving your money away to give your money away.
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September 16th, 2019 at 3:12:35 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

The weirdest thing is that the entertainment IS the process of losing money.

It's not like you're giving your money away for a chemical intoxication, or to look at a hot woman taking off her clothes. You are giving your money away to give your money away.



You're giving your money away to play a game.

EDIT: And also to get some booze. I probably drank $100 worth of cognac "for free" last time I was in Vegas.
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September 16th, 2019 at 3:21:18 PM permalink
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You're giving your money away to play a game.

EDIT: And also to get some booze. I probably drank $100 worth of cognac "for free" last time I was in Vegas.



All of the games can be played for free. And few people play at the lowest possible denoms, which is what you do if you just want to play.

If an arcade gave you the option of playing the same game for a quarter or a dollar, nobody would pick the dollar.
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September 16th, 2019 at 3:21:39 PM permalink
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You are giving your money away to give your money away.




yes, that is one way to look at it

but there is another way to look at it - the gambler is paying a tax for the chance to double his money

if you have $1K and you want to double it so you have $2K if you put your $1K bet on Player at baccarat the tax on the bet (expected dollar loss) is $12.40

the $1K is not enough - you need $2k for some reason

what chance does a person have to double his money in 20 seconds if he doesn't do something like this?...........................there is no other way to do it that I know about

but the vast majority of gamblers are not coldly logical like this - most are driven by a compulsion and are generally foggy about what they're doing
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September 16th, 2019 at 3:34:53 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

All of the games can be played for free. And few people play at the lowest possible denoms, which is what you do if you just want to play.



Nobody I know wants to play Pai Gow or Baccarat with me, so there's at least one service that casinos provide. And I can look at naked women for free.

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If an arcade gave you the option of playing the same game for a quarter or a dollar, nobody would pick the dollar.



People with high amounts of discretionary income would, especially if it involved greater benefits than playing at the quarter level.

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