Laymedown
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March 30th, 2018 at 2:54:52 PM permalink
I'm not sure how it works down in the Vegas area but up here we get 2 to 4 match play coupons every month in the mailer. In most cases are usually $100 times 4 coupons. These coupons can only be played on 1:1 EVEN MONEY PAYOUT.

I'm just sharing this because I see craps players using the pass line or don't pass line betting $100 cash on top of the match play coupon. Or hedging trying to win $50.00

GIVE THIS A TRY AFTER A POINT IS ESTABLISHED

FIRST OFF, Place the 100.00 coupon and $100 cash on the DON'T COME
SECOND, Bet $150.00 on the COME bet
THIRD, Bet $10.00 TWELVE CRAP
FORTH, When the COME bet goes to a number PUT $40 ODDS on it.

You are a guaranteed winner of $40.00 plus the odds and if the twelve gets rolled you are guaranteed $100 profit.

There you go, Guaranteed winner all 4 times for the 4 match play coupons.
Sorry for my many daily posts. I am a retired professional and I love to chat about gambling. I also enjoy reading and can't help but to reply to some fantastic articles.
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March 30th, 2018 at 5:39:00 PM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

I'm not sure how it works down in the Vegas area but up here we get 2 to 4 match play coupons every month in the mailer. In most cases are usually $100 times 4 coupons. These coupons can only be played on 1:1 EVEN MONEY PAYOUT.

I'm just sharing this because I see craps players using the pass line or don't pass line betting $100 cash on top of the match play coupon. Or hedging trying to win $50.00

GIVE THIS A TRY AFTER A POINT IS ESTABLISHED

FIRST OFF, Place the 100.00 coupon and $100 cash on the DON'T COME
SECOND, Bet $150.00 on the COME bet
THIRD, Bet $10.00 TWELVE CRAP
FORTH, When the COME bet goes to a number PUT $40 ODDS on it.

You are a guaranteed winner of $40.00 plus the odds and if the twelve gets rolled you are guaranteed $100 profit.

There you go, Guaranteed winner all 4 times for the 4 match play coupons.



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AcesAndEights
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March 30th, 2018 at 7:37:00 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

6 days

102 posts

8 threads started

Countless old threads bumped


Volume of posts alone isn't a problem. The repetitiveness of the posts is another thing. And the fact that he is peddling something that almost no one here is buying.
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Laymedown
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March 30th, 2018 at 9:12:07 PM permalink
Come on guys? What am I peddling?
Excuse me for replying to some interesting articles.

I've unsubscribed to all my earlier threads, i've only subscribed to 5 threads out of hundreds.

Why don't you guys move to a private forum if all your gonna do is complain.

IT'S A PUBLIC DISCUSSION FORUM, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE DO, READ POSTS AND REPLY TO POSTS.

i HATE HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER AND WASTE FORUM SPACE BECAUSE IT UPSETS YOU EVEN MORE.
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March 30th, 2018 at 9:21:57 PM permalink
Quote: Laymedown



i HATE HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER.



Really? I got the feeling you loved it
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March 30th, 2018 at 10:38:38 PM permalink
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Let's give him a chance. He may just be a chatty and bored Newbie. :)
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March 30th, 2018 at 10:39:24 PM permalink
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Really? I got the feeling you loved it



I tend to be repetitive myself so I can put myself in LMD shoes. ;)
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March 31st, 2018 at 6:46:13 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I tend to be repetitive myself so I can put myself in LMD shoes. ;)



Yes yes you are. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
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March 31st, 2018 at 6:47:24 AM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

I'm not sure how it works down in the Vegas area but up here we get 2 to 4 match play coupons every month in the mailer. In most cases are usually $100 times 4 coupons. These coupons can only be played on 1:1 EVEN MONEY PAYOUT.

I'm just sharing this because I see craps players using the pass line or don't pass line betting $100 cash on top of the match play coupon. Or hedging trying to win $50.00

GIVE THIS A TRY AFTER A POINT IS ESTABLISHED

FIRST OFF, Place the 100.00 coupon and $100 cash on the DON'T COME
SECOND, Bet $150.00 on the COME bet
THIRD, Bet $10.00 TWELVE CRAP
FORTH, When the COME bet goes to a number PUT $40 ODDS on it.

You are a guaranteed winner of $40.00 plus the odds and if the twelve gets rolled you are guaranteed $100 profit.

There you go, Guaranteed winner all 4 times for the 4 match play coupons.



Many many places will not let you do this when using your match play. Maybe your local does but many dont.
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March 31st, 2018 at 7:40:28 AM permalink
Look up James Grosjean Beyond Coupons and THAT is the best way to utilize match play coupons.
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March 31st, 2018 at 10:23:39 PM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

You are a guaranteed winner of $40.00 plus the odds and if the twelve gets rolled you are guaranteed $100 profit.



Without using your strategy the coupon has a value of almost $50. If someone would want to give that up for a guaranteed $40, they wouldn't be playing casino games
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March 31st, 2018 at 10:38:43 PM permalink
Beyond Coupons

PM me if you need a PDF but you can google just as easy
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April 1st, 2018 at 2:35:43 AM permalink
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Without using your strategy the coupon has a value of almost $50. If someone would want to give that up for a guaranteed $40, they wouldn't be playing casino games



I know the prevailing theory but i disagree

A guaranteed $40 is better than a possible $50

I often will say i am not a gambler. I dont want the excitement of winning when i could have lost. Im there to make a profit guaranteed

I wont ever be hungry because i could have had $50 bucks but variance was against me

Of course now my operation is so large i dont have to worry about that but intrinsically i still prefer to guarantee money like its a job and not gambling
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:49:12 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

A guaranteed $40 is better than a possible $50



Itís a guaranteed $40 or a possible $200
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:00:20 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

Itís a guaranteed $40 or a possible $200



Well its a matchplay so:

Guaranteed $40 or a possible $200 win or a possible $100 loss

I wilk still take the guaranteed $40
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:03:52 AM permalink
I take the one with the highest EV.
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:11:43 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I take the one with the highest EV.



Technically the guaranteed $40 is not ev (expected value) but GV (guaranteed value)

GV is my terminology of course :)
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:19:15 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Technically the guaranteed $40 is not ev (expected value) but GV (guaranteed value)

GV is my terminology of course :)


In other words, when you're dealt A♠️ K♥️ Q♥️ J♥️ 10♥️ in VP, you hold the dealt straight, while I'll go for the royal.
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:40:37 AM permalink
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In other words, when you're dealt A♠️ K♥️ Q♥️ J♥️ 10♥️ in VP, you hold the dealt straight, while I'll go for the royal.



I dont play video poker.
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:51:21 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I dont play video poker.


But you get what I'm talking about.
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:19:07 AM permalink
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But you get what I'm talking about.



Yes.

I dont know if its a good comparison.

The decisions made in VP to keep the game +EV (assuming you are playing a +100 machine) are intrinsic to keeping it +EV

While using matchplays are + ev the games its used on are -ev

In other words if you guaranteed your profit in your above example you would now be changing a +ev game into a -ev game where matchplay use is the polar opposite
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:26:49 AM permalink
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In other words, when you're dealt A♠️ K♥️ Q♥️ J♥️ 10♥️ in VP, you hold the dealt straight, while I'll go for the royal.

I don't always play the game with the highest EV for various reason but giving up 10% or more is kinda crazy.

Holding a dealt str8 over a 4 card Royal is an unfair comparison.
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:33:32 AM permalink
I could see his point if the numbers were $400,000 guaranteed vs $500,000 EV but we're talking a measly $40 & $50. Personally, I still take the highest EV, even if I was desperate for the cash.
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:33:32 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I don't always play the game with the highest EV for various reason but giving up 10% or more is kinda crazy.

Holding a dealt str8 over a 4 card Royal is an unfair comparison.



Yeah and that too
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