Zcore13
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June 1st, 2018 at 6:58:10 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Thank you for the compliment. I havent posted about my play in quite some time as it is a waste of time, however you seem to be fixated on my craps abilities still. All good here. Thanks for checking in. FYI, picked up a quick 1000 last night and another 400 just earlier today. The way I won was not typical of how I usually play. It was a beauty for sure. Walked up to the tables and everyone was barking about how bad the tables were and how cold they were. I stood by for 10 minutes watching... and they were correct. Cold as ICE! So I adjusted and put 500 on the no 10. Four 7s came out very quickly before any 10 could even be seen. Last night was a beauty. Understanding these types of things cant be taught... just mastered. You say gifted... perhaps, I agree. Thank you sir!



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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
GlenG
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June 4th, 2018 at 5:48:21 PM permalink
How can one record the data of 1000 rolls on a set dice if its physically impossible to do so? The execution/landing spot has to be the same EVERY SINGLE TIME..or else the calculations are wrong. No human is capable of doing so...you would need robots.
SOOPOO
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June 4th, 2018 at 6:09:02 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

He stares at sleeping, drooling people and computer monitors for a living. It would probably be a welcome change. :)



OK BBB! I had a real LOL!!!!!!! But to Axel, I would be betting with our friend. Since I am willing to bet on a random roller there is no reason I would not bet on someone who thinks they are not a random roller. I'd do my pass line plus odds at whatever table minimum. Cost me maybe $10 an hour in EV. Well worth it for me.
lilredrooster
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June 12th, 2018 at 4:09:51 AM permalink
my favorite system is for baccarat. this thread is craps but I didn't want to start another thread

𝙄'𝙢 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙩'𝙨 𝙖 𝙬𝙞𝙣𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙢 - 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙞𝙩'𝙨 𝙛𝙪𝙣 𝙖𝙩 𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙢𝙚

I play it on the Wiz's free baccarat game - not for real money - yet anyway

I call it the political system - because you just try to get on the winning side

if player just won you bet player hoping for a streak on player. if banker wins and you lose you bet banker hoping for a streak on banker. if you are winning you stay on the same side (player or banker). anytime there is a loss you change to the other side (player or banker)

I try for a small 2 step parlay - i.e. bet $100 if you win bet $200 and that's it. if you win the $200 bet start again with $100.

of course, when the streak is alternating, instead of on banker or player I get creamed. if player or banker has a long streak I go way ahead.

I've had lots of fun with this. kills time and eases bordeom
𝘈 𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴.... ᴴᵉʳᵐᵃⁿ ᴹᵉˡᵛⁱˡˡᵉ
Joker
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September 18th, 2018 at 11:59:36 PM permalink
I have seen a similar video (if not the same one) describing this hedging system. The problem with this system is that if you get several come bets up, you winnings on the DC are not enough to off set the losses when the 7 comes up. For this system to work, you need to hit several of the come bets with the full odds. Plus, I have tried this out and I usually take a beating when the DC is a 6 or 8 because I lose them frequently.

I have a modified version of this hedging system that I am trying out. It has worked a few times in online games, but there have been times where I have also lost. More often than not, I have won. I have not tried this yet in a live game at the casino, so this may not work live.

On the come out roll, I bet $10 on the pass line. If a point is set, I place the maximum odds. ($30 on the 4/10, $40 on the 5/9, and $60 on the 6/8).

On the next roll, I bet $25 on the DC. If the DC is a 6 or 8, I then place another $25 for a DC until its not a 6 or 8. I then place DC $150 odds and a $10 come bet. As the come bets are placed, I take the odds only on the 6 or 8. I let the 4,5,9 & 10 come bets ride. This way, you have $175 on the DC (paying $100 or $125 depending on the DC), and 2 or 3 bets working for you (depending on what the point is) with a maximum of $170 at risk with a point of 5 or 9. As you mentioned, when the DC gets wiped out, its a big hit. You can also lose if you hit a 7 or 11 when trying to set the DC or if the DC hits the 6 or 8.
Joker
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September 19th, 2018 at 12:15:26 AM permalink
Quote: GlenG

How can one record the data of 1000 rolls on a set dice if its physically impossible to do so? The execution/landing spot has to be the same EVERY SINGLE TIME..or else the calculations are wrong. No human is capable of doing so...you would need robots.



Plus, you would need to have at least three sets of throws (if you decide to do 1000 throws, it totals 3000). The first set of throws setting the dice, to show the variation. The second set of normal throws to confirm there isnt a bias in the dice, the table or the thrower, and a third set (setting) to confirm the variation.
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September 19th, 2018 at 7:25:10 AM permalink
Welcome to the forum, Joker. Thanks for the detailed on-topic description.

We don't support or condone any craps system based on the mathematical impossibility of long-term or consistent wins on combinations of -ev bets. That said (for the record and since you're new), it makes for an interesting discussion.
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September 19th, 2018 at 8:37:45 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Welcome to the forum, Joker. Thanks for the detailed on-topic description.

it makes for an interesting discussion.



Yes but no one really needs stats and data to solve this dice influencing question. You see the DI driving a Rolls Royce? You see the DI guy selling seminars and eating a casino hot dog that he has loaded up with condiments to make a decent meal?

short term, anything can happen and if you want attribute it to the gorgeous Tray Lizard that is fine. If you want to attribute it to your skill in setting dice that is fine too.
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September 19th, 2018 at 9:03:55 AM permalink
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and if you want attribute it to the gorgeous Tray Lizard that is fine. If you want to attribute it to your skill in setting dice that is fine too.

Tray Lizard... I keep seeing that strange expression. Can someone please explain... Do you mean cocktail waitress? Where is the expression from?
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Joker
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September 19th, 2018 at 9:34:33 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Welcome to the forum, Joker. Thanks for the detailed on-topic description.

We don't support or condone any craps system based on the mathematical impossibility of long-term or consistent wins on combinations of -ev bets. That said (for the record and since you're new), it makes for an interesting discussion.



Thank you for the kind words of welcome. I apologize if I was trying to promote a system, that was not my intent. Yes, the house has an edge on every throw, otherwise, they wouldnt be hosting the games. They dont build those lavish places on the strip when the players are winners. And in the long run, the numbers will play out to the house's advantage. I was just trying to explain my strategy on how I hope to get in that sweet spot where the variation falls in my favor.

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