Anon
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October 17th, 2015 at 5:24:46 PM permalink
most of us know systems lose in the long run but i am curious which craps system have you used that lasted you the longest before failure?????? please include strategy and money management if you can ....
ThatDonGuy
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October 17th, 2015 at 5:50:14 PM permalink
Here's the one that has worked the best for me:
$5 on Pass, then 15/20/25 (depending on the point) odds.
I don't worry about money management so much as I do anger management if I take a beating.
RaleighCraps
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October 17th, 2015 at 6:09:44 PM permalink
saw an interesting doey don't at Cherokee the last time. Come Out winners are killers, but once he got past the Come Out, it seemed okay. They have 10x odds.

player made $10 PL bet, and $100 DP bet.
He would then put $100 odds on the point.

Seven Out, he would lose $10
Point made, he would get $10 (PL)+ the odds payout less $100 (his losing DP bet).

I would love to know if he gets rated for $110 action ($10 PL + $100 DP)
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back ! Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
RaleighCraps
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October 17th, 2015 at 6:17:49 PM permalink
I have a friend who wants to play craps, but usually ends up at a Pai Gow table.

He doesn't like large swings (hence Pai Gow). His 'system' is

On Come Out roll, $82 No FOUR
$35 DP
Once point is set, pull down the No Four, and bet $12 6 and 8, and $10 Place 5.
On first hit, Place the 9 for $10.
He then does take/press cycles.

Works okay as long as there aren't many Come Out 11s, or 4 being set as the point.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back ! Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
TomG
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October 17th, 2015 at 7:03:09 PM permalink
If I have a match play coupon use it on either the pass line or don't pass based on whatever the voices in my head tell me. I am a lifetime winner using this system
AZDuffman
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October 17th, 2015 at 7:55:43 PM permalink
If I think it will be a hot shooter:

1. Wait for a point of 5/6/7
2. Back the point with 1Xs odds
3. Two units on the remaining 5/6/8
4. One unit on the field

If they make 6 shots without the 7 it is a winner. Use some of the odds from the 5/6/8 for prop bets or the crew if you like.

Showed a guy this once and he gave me $20 tip. So it can make money! lol
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
Exoter175
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October 18th, 2015 at 11:47:23 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

If I think it will be a hot shooter:

1. Wait for a point of 5/6/7
2. Back the point with 1Xs odds
3. Two units on the remaining 5/6/8
4. One unit on the field

If they make 6 shots without the 7 it is a winner. Use some of the odds from the 5/6/8 for prop bets or the crew if you like.

Showed a guy this once and he gave me $20 tip. So it can make money! lol



You're using a modified iron cross. That system "won't" make money, but its a fun system to play on a 2x2 and 3x12 layout at the "low roller" level to kill time. Keep in mind though, if you're doing a $5/$6 5-6-8 with $5 field, regardless of your PL/Odds placement, you're going to need to roll nearly 10-11 times to make money every roll, assuming the replacement of the field after every 5/6/8, and assuming you don't press. That's asking for quite a bit. In all honesty, for only a few bucks more, you could place the 4,5,6,8,10, plus a field bet to cover the 9, and replace the place bets with your PL bet with odds and you'd have quite a bit more "bang" for your buck there.

Imagine, as an example, that the point is a 4.

In your system, you've got a $5 PL, with $5 odds backed up, with a 5,6,8 for $17 inside no-nine, and a $5 field, for a total of $32

You could have the 5,6,8,10(or 4 depending on point) placed for $22, $5+$5 and a $5 field for a total of $37 dollars.

Now if that 4/10 (depending on point situation) rolls you'll make 14 ($9 place win +$5 field win)

Keeping in mind, though, you have a 16/36 shot at making more than $2 with every roll, but a 20/36 shot at making $2 or less.

Since 6 of those 36 are 7's (bad) that leaves a possible 30 combinations. The 6/8 account for 10 of them, leaving 20 left, and the 5 accounts for 4 of them, leaving 16. So there's 14/36 shot of you making $2, 6/36 shot of you losing your entire bet, and a 16/36 shot at making $5-$14.
rushdl
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January 19th, 2016 at 1:03:21 PM permalink
Iron Cro$$ is fun :)
Try dedicating yourself to 2-3 rolls/hits then get out.
TwoFeathersATL
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January 19th, 2016 at 2:02:07 PM permalink
Quote: rushdl

Iron Cro$$ is fun :)
Try dedicating yourself to 2-3 rolls/hits then get out.

Now we got us a craps thread goin on, Exoter being the last poster before the latest. This should get to be fun. Funny.
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January 19th, 2016 at 3:27:15 PM permalink
Flat bet the don't pass/don't come on every roll with full odds.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.

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