Has anyone studied Martin Blakey
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May 8th, 2010 at 4:55:58 AM
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Highly complex, but much credibility. Not a get rich quick scheme.
May 8th, 2010 at 5:17:52 AM
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Never heard of it. I won't criticize a book I've never read, but I hate it when a book cover promises a way to win at a casino game, and nothing inside the book explains how to do so.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
May 8th, 2010 at 6:03:13 AM
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Why would someone write a book on how to win at roulette?
Any hours he put into the book would be more profitably spend at the wheel!
And he would get free drinks doing it too!
JUST TO BE FAIR:
Authors rarely have any rights to the title of their book, cover art or blurbs. These are contractually part of the Publisher's rights until an author gets some clout and can negotiate for them.
So it is not necessarily in accord with the author's wishes that exaggerated claims are made by the publisher.
However we all know that this "win at roulette" stuff means write a book about winning at roulette.
Any hours he put into the book would be more profitably spend at the wheel!
And he would get free drinks doing it too!
JUST TO BE FAIR:
Authors rarely have any rights to the title of their book, cover art or blurbs. These are contractually part of the Publisher's rights until an author gets some clout and can negotiate for them.
So it is not necessarily in accord with the author's wishes that exaggerated claims are made by the publisher.
However we all know that this "win at roulette" stuff means write a book about winning at roulette.
May 9th, 2010 at 7:02:12 AM
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System totally explained. Examples are given too.
Probably won't work on double zero wheel.
It's of little use to the typical gambler. Highly complex. One needs self control to be a systems gambler. Most gamblers do not have that characteristic.
Probably won't work on double zero wheel.
It's of little use to the typical gambler. Highly complex. One needs self control to be a systems gambler. Most gamblers do not have that characteristic.
May 9th, 2010 at 7:13:48 AM
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May 10th, 2010 at 6:52:38 AM
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Let me guess Leedebt = Martin Blackey
May 10th, 2010 at 7:39:43 AM
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There's a chapter on cheating. That probably explains how the system works.
Wisdom is the quality that keeps you out of situations where you would otherwise need it
May 10th, 2010 at 9:46:34 AM
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has anyone here read "Beyond Counting" by James Grosjean?
ive never read it before. its got a pretty hefty pricetag.
its supposed to have a lot of useful information in it about advantage plays you may have never thought about before.
this article has been pretty useful.
http://www.beyondcounting.com/pdfs/beyondcouponsbjfo.pdf
ive never read it before. its got a pretty hefty pricetag.
its supposed to have a lot of useful information in it about advantage plays you may have never thought about before.
this article has been pretty useful.
http://www.beyondcounting.com/pdfs/beyondcouponsbjfo.pdf
May 13th, 2010 at 7:02:03 PM
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You're far too cynical for your own wellbeing ruascott. A holiday away from double zero territory would do your outlook and your loosing streak the world of good.
Mr Blakey actually offers a demonstration to any Doubting Thomas.
Mr Blakey actually offers a demonstration to any Doubting Thomas.
May 13th, 2010 at 7:29:24 PM
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Quote: leedebtYou're far too cynical for your own wellbeing ruascott. A holiday away from double zero territory would do your outlook and your loosing streak the world of good.
Mr Blakey actually offers a demonstration to any Doubting Thomas.
You mean like anyone who understands math? There is no possible way that a betting system can overcome a game with a built in house edge (like one 0). That is the reason that the 0 is there. The house always wins in the longrun...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 14th, 2010 at 8:23:57 AM
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You should repost under betting systems. You will find people who are less cynical on that thread.
May 14th, 2010 at 8:47:49 AM
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Quote: leedebtYou're far too cynical for your own wellbeing ruascott. A holiday away from double zero territory would do your outlook and your loosing streak the world of good.
Mr Blakey actually offers a demonstration to any Doubting Thomas.
Not cynical whatsoever. Just believe in math and science, which appearantly you don't.
May 14th, 2010 at 8:50:55 AM
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Ha, wait I actually did do a quick search on this book, and the free chapter is on how to cheat, which included conspiring with your local dealer to pay out on losses. We'll, I guess you got me there. Cheating is one way to beat the house, but I think I'll stick to legal forms.
May 14th, 2010 at 12:32:11 PM
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Quote: ruascottLet me guess Leedebt = Martin Blackey
good catch!
see how many posts the poster has!!!
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
May 14th, 2010 at 3:47:07 PM
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you can walk up to a table and shout out a number that no one has bet on. some people might then bet on that number because theyre superstitious. and if the number comes in, be ready to buyin and someone might make a bet for you for winning them money. if it doesnt, just walk away. slightly more effective if one of the players who bet on the number and won was using casino chips instead of roulette chips so he can just hand you a chip. not only must the number come in but you must also depend on other peoples generosity. not likely but still a nonzero chance of this happening.
you can also freeroll sometimes on the placement of your bets. look for stacks of chips where multiple people have bet. if theres at least 3 spots. bet one chip next to a stack of chips clearly still inside the number. bet another chip mostly on the inside of one number next to a stack but slightly touching the line of another number as if you were betting on two numbers. the place another chip clearly on the line between two numbers next to a stack of chips. then place a couple other bets on lines between two numbers and on single numbers. the lines between two numbers 40% on one side 60% on the other. the single numbers not centralized, close to the lines but still no part of them touching the lines. if the bets go unnoticed and the dealer doesnt correct you for not placing your chips on top of the stacks for betting on a single number, you may have a freeroll oppurtunity using one chip to get paid 35-1 on one number or 17-1 on another number claiming whichever way would be more beneficial towards you.
you can also freeroll sometimes on the placement of your bets. look for stacks of chips where multiple people have bet. if theres at least 3 spots. bet one chip next to a stack of chips clearly still inside the number. bet another chip mostly on the inside of one number next to a stack but slightly touching the line of another number as if you were betting on two numbers. the place another chip clearly on the line between two numbers next to a stack of chips. then place a couple other bets on lines between two numbers and on single numbers. the lines between two numbers 40% on one side 60% on the other. the single numbers not centralized, close to the lines but still no part of them touching the lines. if the bets go unnoticed and the dealer doesnt correct you for not placing your chips on top of the stacks for betting on a single number, you may have a freeroll oppurtunity using one chip to get paid 35-1 on one number or 17-1 on another number claiming whichever way would be more beneficial towards you.
May 14th, 2010 at 4:04:43 PM
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basically roulette is a pretty terrible game to try to get an edge on. scenarios you can are going to come up so infrequently, you will hardly put a dent into the house edge. regardless of what youre playing though, just be vigilant and try to think outside the box, to cut down on the house edge or potentially turn it in your favor. just learn to be observant.
May 16th, 2010 at 4:20:02 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusYou mean like anyone who understands math? There is no possible way that a betting system can overcome a game with a built in house edge (like one 0). That is the reason that the 0 is there. The house always wins in the longrun...
No betting system can create a positive expectation from a negative one; however, it is quite possible to create a system with a large skew, so that the player can have many more winning than losing sessions. A single-zero wheel has an HA equal to that of the Field bet with a triple pay in craps, 2.78%. Systems that increase bets after a loss can "work" much of the time; the player's hope is to never have that session where you bump up against the table limit.
The house always wins in the long run, and the players, taken as an aggregate, always lose, but SOME players can and do win, even over a lifetime of play. That's called "variance". Of course, for every player in the "right tail", there's one in the left, too. That's called "luck".
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Cheers,
Alan Shank
"How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
May 16th, 2010 at 4:31:05 PM
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Quote: goatcabinOf course, for every player in the "right tail", there's one in the left, too. That's called "luck".
I'm not sure that I agree with you here. Why do you assume equal numbers of winners and losers? I would expect the distribution of players to have a strong bias to the left tail of the curve, especially over a lifetime of play.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 16th, 2010 at 4:58:16 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusI'm not sure that I agree with you here. Why do you assume equal numbers of winners and losers? I would expect the distribution of players to have a strong bias to the left tail of the curve, especially over a lifetime of play.
I do not assume equal numbers of winners and losers, and that's not what I said. If the graph is symmetrical, like a normal distribution, the tails are the same, but the peak of the graph is in the negative, so any given number of standard deviations to the right of the peak will be balanced by the same number to the left, but the "balance point" is not zero.
For example, suppose two million players each play 5000 $5 passline bets. The ev is -$354, with a standard deviation of $354. We would expect the graph of all the players' outcomes to be a symmetrical bell-shaped curve. Since the standard deviation is equal in magnitude to the expected loss, a player would have to be one standard deviation to the right side of the peak to break even; a player experiencing one SD of "bad luck" would lose $708. The only winning players would have more than one SD of "good luck". So, for every player having two SD of "good luck", winning $354, there would be another losing $1062, two SD worse than the ev.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Cheers,
Alan Shank
"How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
May 19th, 2010 at 7:30:42 AM
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Mr Blakey has a math degree rd.
Rdw4potus, if you do a study of random roulette numbers (as I have) over many thousands of outcomes you will see that they appear in clusters, right? They simply have to to compensate for the times when they may not have had an occurrence, for say 300 spins. We are, as you probably know, dealing with the Law of Large Numbers. As we all know, many roulette systems fail because of the escalation in betting due to the numbers not making an appearance within a reasonable number of outcomes.
If you do the study you will find that more than 60% appear at less than the table odds, right? Get the picture?
Rdw4potus, if you do a study of random roulette numbers (as I have) over many thousands of outcomes you will see that they appear in clusters, right? They simply have to to compensate for the times when they may not have had an occurrence, for say 300 spins. We are, as you probably know, dealing with the Law of Large Numbers. As we all know, many roulette systems fail because of the escalation in betting due to the numbers not making an appearance within a reasonable number of outcomes.
If you do the study you will find that more than 60% appear at less than the table odds, right? Get the picture?
May 19th, 2010 at 7:41:39 AM
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Let me give you some advice....don't waste your energy typing out this stuff on this site. You won't find a receptive audience.
Instead, point your web browser to google.com and enter "Gambler's Fallacy".
Read and repeat.
Instead, point your web browser to google.com and enter "Gambler's Fallacy".
Read and repeat.
May 19th, 2010 at 7:53:02 AM
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Quote: leedebtMr Blakey has a math degree rd.
Rdw4potus, if you do a study of random roulette numbers (as I have) over many thousands of outcomes you will see that they appear in clusters, right? They simply have to to compensate for the times when they may not have had an occurrence, for say 300 spins. We are, as you probably know, dealing with the Law of Large Numbers.
It's a good thing the universe is looking out for us and making the little ball land on numbers that haven't been visited recently. I'm glad the powers that be don't let the numbers get their feelings hurt by letting them think they are being ignored.
Wisdom is the quality that keeps you out of situations where you would otherwise need it
May 19th, 2010 at 8:27:49 AM
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September 7th, 2013 at 6:41:27 AM
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This is how it looks in real life. Martin Blakey System. It is took me a year to build whole system. There are two pics attached
System works. It is not a get-rich-quick strategy but in long term you can make profit.
I live in Melbourne same as Mertin B, but haven't met him jet. Saw him ones at Crown Casino Melbourne.
System works. It is not a get-rich-quick strategy but in long term you can make profit.
I live in Melbourne same as Mertin B, but haven't met him jet. Saw him ones at Crown Casino Melbourne.
September 7th, 2013 at 6:50:32 AM
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Quote: leedebtMr Blakey has a math degree rd.
Rdw4potus, if you do a study of random roulette numbers (as I have) over many thousands of outcomes you will see that they appear in clusters, right? They simply have to to compensate for the times when they may not have had an occurrence, for say 300 spins. We are, as you probably know, dealing with the Law of Large Numbers. As we all know, many roulette systems fail because of the escalation in betting due to the numbers not making an appearance within a reasonable number of outcomes.
If you do the study you will find that more than 60% appear at less than the table odds, right? Get the picture?
How Large does a Number have to be to be governed by the Law of Large Numbers?
A falling knife has no handle.
September 7th, 2013 at 7:16:25 AM
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Husband and Wife at roulette wheel:
Husband "Black has come up six times in a row, honey! Black is hot! Let's bet black!"
Wife: "No! Red hasn't come up six times in a row! Red is due to hit! Let's bet red!"
Husband "Jeez, you're dumb, honey! You bet the hot side not the cold side!" he said as he slapped a bet on black.
Wife "No, Honey! You're the dumass! I'm betting red because it is due to hit!" She slaps a bet down on red.
The ball went around and around. Then tumbled down and landed on.........green!
Husband "Let's go eat, honey!"
Husband "Black has come up six times in a row, honey! Black is hot! Let's bet black!"
Wife: "No! Red hasn't come up six times in a row! Red is due to hit! Let's bet red!"
Husband "Jeez, you're dumb, honey! You bet the hot side not the cold side!" he said as he slapped a bet on black.
Wife "No, Honey! You're the dumass! I'm betting red because it is due to hit!" She slaps a bet down on red.
The ball went around and around. Then tumbled down and landed on.........green!
Husband "Let's go eat, honey!"
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
September 7th, 2013 at 7:55:47 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
September 7th, 2013 at 12:03:17 PM
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Quote: KingFX
http://i44.tinypic.com/24vjpea.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/jakvb8.jpg
System works. It is not a quick reach shame but in long term you can make profit.
I don't get it, whats the bet selection based on. Or
is it just another mechanical system.
(quick reach shame? Freudian slip there?)
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 7th, 2013 at 12:21:47 PM
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Authors of roulette systems always claim to have a degree in math, thus instantly announcing the whole thing to be a con .
Perhaps a degree in logical thinking would be more beneficial to themselves.
Perhaps a degree in logical thinking would be more beneficial to themselves.
A photon without any luggage checks into a hotel, he's travelling light.
September 7th, 2013 at 12:34:29 PM
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Quote: KingFX
System works. It is not a quick reach shame but in long term you can make profit.
True, the shame comes on gradually as you realize you've been conned.
A photon without any luggage checks into a hotel, he's travelling light.
September 7th, 2013 at 1:53:15 PM
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Quote: JeepsterQuote: KingFX
System works. It is not a quick reach shame but in long term you can make profit.
True, the shame comes on gradually as you realize you've been conned.
Sorry I made mistake "get rich quick".
There are always and always will be optimists and pessimists, and they will never understated each other.
September 7th, 2013 at 2:12:53 PM
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I remember a gentleman that was on Dancers show a while back that seemed to be able to get an advantage using tilted wheels he claimed there were 1 in 8 or something that this could be achieved. He was not talking about wacky bet selections or any cracked out systems. That's something I may be convinced of. I believe munchkin thought him to be credible. any thought on this?
Not sure if the op is playing at the same casino/wheel perhaps something like a biased wheel is creating your unproven winning streak. I doubt it since you probably are betting red and black or something like that. I take that back its probably not happening at all. Why not take that challenge https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-system-challenge ? Imagine you could make all your money from your system and get a 30k bonus. Then go on to greatness.
Not sure if the op is playing at the same casino/wheel perhaps something like a biased wheel is creating your unproven winning streak. I doubt it since you probably are betting red and black or something like that. I take that back its probably not happening at all. Why not take that challenge https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-system-challenge ? Imagine you could make all your money from your system and get a 30k bonus. Then go on to greatness.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 7th, 2013 at 3:23:42 PM
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Quote: KingFXQuote: JeepsterQuote: KingFX
System works. It is not a quick reach shame but in long term you can make profit.
True, the shame comes on gradually as you realize you've been conned.
Sorry I made mistake "get rich quick".
There are always and always will be optimists and pessimists, and they will never understated each other.
I'm optimistic that I understatedly understand this get rich quick scheme.
A falling knife has no handle.
September 7th, 2013 at 3:28:15 PM
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Works in Australia I can understand. But will it work north of the equator ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
September 7th, 2013 at 4:52:49 PM
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Quote: KingFX
Sorry I made mistake "get rich quick".
No, you were closer with quick reach shame.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 10th, 2013 at 8:54:12 AM
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my head tells me you cant beat the math of roulette, however it also says
that nothing is ever truly random .
There are always differences in temperature, altitude, the condition of the
wheel, and on and on.... and i imagine that there are some people smart
enough to be able to pick up on biases so small that 99.9% of the
rest of us never see or think of.
I think that is why casino's watch everything, have camera's everywhere, because
they understand that anything can be beaten, but they have no idea what the
next attempt will be.
dicesetter
that nothing is ever truly random .
There are always differences in temperature, altitude, the condition of the
wheel, and on and on.... and i imagine that there are some people smart
enough to be able to pick up on biases so small that 99.9% of the
rest of us never see or think of.
I think that is why casino's watch everything, have camera's everywhere, because
they understand that anything can be beaten, but they have no idea what the
next attempt will be.
dicesetter
September 10th, 2013 at 5:09:44 PM
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Quote: dicesitter
I think that is why casino's watch everything, have camera's everywhere, because
they understand that anything can be beaten, but they have no idea what the
next attempt will be.
dicesetter
You're giving them too much credit. They have cameras
everywhere to watch the money. They watch where
the money goes, catching cheaters and game beaters
is way down on their list.
Just like a bank. Those cameras aren't there to identify
future robbers, they're there to watch the tellers. To
watch the money. That's where they get robbed, crooks
are the least of their problems. Banks lose more cash
to inside jobs every year than all the robberies put together
since the dawn of time. So do casinos.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 10th, 2013 at 5:50:07 PM
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Thanks for the photos.Quote: KingFXThis is how it looks in real life.
Martin Blakey System.
It is took me a year to build whole system.
There are two pics attached
http://i44.tinypic.com/24vjpea.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/jakvb8.jpg
They both appear to contain a few programming errors.
care to double check your work?
FYI,Quote: KingFXSystem works.
ALL and any system(s) work (to win $$$)
at Roulette
except
betting
one unit on every number each spin
Your only error.Quote: KingFXIt is not a get-rich-quick strategy but in long term you can make profit.
You would be 100% correct by stating instead this:
"but in SHORT term you can make profit."
So, I would say, make your profit in the short term
and then move on to playing poker (Big $$$, easy $$$)
(I have NO videos to share, sorry, really)
I do not fix errors by others
just mine
Good Luck in the short term
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
August 1st, 2014 at 12:01:09 PM
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At betforum.cc/index it was announced that Dr. Martin Blakey has died about 3- 4 weeks ago This according to a poster from Australia.
PS. I have never read his book . But wanted to know if any info on his book was available here at the Wizard since that group over at betselection is rather emotional since Martin`s demise. Most of them are from Down Under.
PS. I have never read his book . But wanted to know if any info on his book was available here at the Wizard since that group over at betselection is rather emotional since Martin`s demise. Most of them are from Down Under.
August 13th, 2014 at 5:29:11 PM
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A PhD Mathematician wrote that book?
I don't think so.
It looks like they tried some kind of scheme or scam here, but it didn't go over very well. The readers here are pretty sharp.
I don't think so.
It looks like they tried some kind of scheme or scam here, but it didn't go over very well. The readers here are pretty sharp.
August 13th, 2014 at 6:40:03 PM
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Quote: dicesittermy head tells me you cant beat the math of roulette, however it also says that nothing is ever truly random.
It doesn't have to be truly random, just random enough to defeat your bankroll.
Quote: dicesitterThere are always differences in temperature, altitude, the condition of the wheel,
Humidity, AC being on or off, wheel moved by janitor, fumes from cleaner's rag, perspiration of croupier.
If the bias is so small how are you going to profit by it on your bankroll. Errors in your own record keeping and bet-tracking will be larger than the "biased results".Quote: dicesetteri imagine that there are some people smart enough to be able to pick up on biases so small that 99.9% of the
rest of us never see or think of.
Quote: dicesetterI think that is why casino's watch everything, have camera's everywhere, because
they understand that anything can be beaten, but they have no idea what the next attempt will be.
Those cameras watch people and chips not butterfly wings in Mexico that somehow just went out of synch with the universe and will cause a wind storm in Vegas tomorrow that will affect a roulette table that has a Northern facing wheel which will cause one spin that should have been Red to be Black.
