Jeremy
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May 5th, 2010 at 3:44:31 AM permalink
I do allot of research but no real betting. This is one of my systems that made it through 1 million spins. It made 788 dollars at the end of 1 million spins. The largest bet was 208 dollars. The system used D'Alembert to break even on betting zero. The break even was raised 1 dollar every 10,000 spins. A system that can withstand large amounts of spins has to be extremely conservative. Any way here is the equity line.




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May 5th, 2010 at 4:33:08 AM permalink
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I do allot of research but no real betting. This is one of my systems that made it through 1 million spins. It made 788 dollars at the end of 1 million spins. The largest bet was 208 dollars. The system used D'Alembert to break even on betting zero. The break even was raised 1 dollar every 10,000 spins. A system that can withstand large amounts of spins has to be extremely conservative. Any way here is the equity line.

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May 5th, 2010 at 9:55:51 AM permalink
Am I reading the graph correctly, or after about 800,000 spins didn't you go broke? I appears as if the Equity spiked to zero. If it did, how did you come back to $10K all at once?
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May 5th, 2010 at 10:51:15 AM permalink
Jeremy,

These charts prove nothing. All betting systems will jump up and down, and all will end up slightly up or down.
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May 5th, 2010 at 3:34:23 PM permalink
The system did not break any of the rules of the BluJay or Wizards challenge other than that I did not do 1 billion spins. A system that can withstand that many spins even 1 million spins is going to be very boring with an incredibly slow growth line. That was in effect a 10,000 dollar draw down which is when the system was as high as 208 units. The reason it looks like a spike is because the graph is 1 million spins. That draw down happened over hundreds of spins.

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May 5th, 2010 at 5:03:55 PM permalink
How many Million spin runs have you tried with this system?

I assume smallest bet is $1, so largest was $208, so the spike at 880,000 spins is a series of good results to get back again after a series of bad results?

Does your system bet size dependent on the bank roll (just curious)?
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May 5th, 2010 at 9:05:20 PM permalink
Quote: Jeremy

The system did not break any of the rules of the BluJay or Wizards challenge other than that I did not do 1 billion spins. A system that can withstand that many spins even 1 million spins is going to be very boring with an incredibly slow growth line. That was in effect a 10,000 dollar draw down which is when the system was as high as 208 units. The reason it looks like a spike is because the graph is 1 million spins. That draw down happened over hundreds of spins.

Jeremy



I believe the point that he was making is that the graph clearly seems to go below zero at the relative min. there. What was the value of that relative min? Also yeah, looks like this system is pretty ineffectual to me, too, based on the results. There is no real progress in 1,000,000 spins, but alot of real close calls to hitting 0. This looks like a huge loss waiting to happen, supplemented by small wins. That has pretty much always been true for these types of systems.
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May 5th, 2010 at 9:32:39 PM permalink
What are we betting on? D'Alembert progression, the minimum bet is? With how much does the bet increase? Is the increase/decrease the same or is there a trigger to increase the increase??
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May 6th, 2010 at 9:39:51 PM permalink
I will try and clear up any questions. The system targets a break even. The break even is raised by a certain amount every so many spins. All my systems so far blow up in terms of the Blue Jay and Wizards challenge rules. This one has blown up on me most of the time. But in this example it managed to get through 1 million plays without blowing up or losing money. The system ads a chip for every loser and deducts a chip for every winner until the defined break even is reached. I am still doing research on systems that break even and I am trying to raise the break even point every so many spins. I assume the readers of this post probably understand that working on the challenge system for fun takes allot of time and the results are always pore. There is no system that can gun for the moon so to speak and get through 1 billion spins. So I am trying to make a system that targets a break even and then changes the break even up words every so many spins. I hope I have cleared this up please feel free to ask any more question if needed. Also I do not know how to use the scroll's format but I will try and learn.
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May 19th, 2010 at 5:25:34 PM permalink
Ah, so this one example of one run of a million spins.
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May 20th, 2010 at 3:28:55 AM permalink
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