Quote: 7crapsThanksQuote: varmentiBaccarat Partner Betting
Here it is Guys 'n Gals
The perfect betting progression for Partners in Baccarat or just a single player betting both sides.
Player A always Bets Banker / Player B Always Bets Player.
Have fun!!!!!
where did your betting sequence go?
I saw it yesterday one time?
I see similar partner bets being placed where the player has slightly more chips than the banker and when a win happens the winner will pay for the others new bet. I don't see much action in this sort of betting but it seams to work for some people.
He trusts the casino he plays at.
He manages his money
He starts with a set amount he is willing to spend.
He knows when to stop
Sounds like he has a system to me.
I even stated the above statement.
I guess I only hit the preview button...
Quote: AxelWolf
I just want one guy to come on here post proof of his dismal financial situation. Then simply say, hey guys I now have a winning system, I wont say what it is but ill see you in 6 months. Fast forward 6 months.... BAM !! next thing you know he is at a strip club making it rain, spraying girls with Cristal, while sending us updated Facebook and twitter links.
I don't believe it works that way:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/15175-the-ultimate-system/#post271252
Quote: EdgeLookerWhat is the purpose of betting Banker and Player at the same time? If the intent is to play on a progressive streak, then why not just wait for the first result to be completed or just bet which side won last and bet according to your progression (minus the amount you were going to bet on the other side)?
That would make too much sense for the OP. lol
Why did you leave my table tonight? I noticed you bought in with 500 each and stayed not even 15 minutes. I noticed a run of Bankers but you coulnt have made more than 200.00 ? Id like to know your secret. Your wife is very sweet. She only bets Player because she hates to pay the commission. I also noticed you haven't ordered any glasses of wine tonight?
Another question, Do you play at Casino Rama?
Quote: Lilchef62This message is for Vince (varmenti)
You must mean 'gr8varmenti'. lol...
Quote: HunterhillI think he means to bet both then whichever side wins to press and then keep pressing up to 6 wins in arow.As soon as a side loses you revert to one unit.
For those interested, there is a similar martingale exposed in a book by Belgian author Fernand Crommelynck (Monsieur Larose est-il l'assassin ?) He used it in roulette (simple bets). This is just an acceleration of the classical "doubling" martingale: double on the losing bet, return to begin on the winning. This way you always have the feeling that you win something.
Of course, it is just as useless as any other martingale. It is equivalent to a betting progression of 1, 3, 7, 15, 31 etc. on a single color (or Banco/Punto). Actually, you reach your maximum even faster than in the classical doubling!
Quote: Beethoven9thYou must mean 'gr8varmenti'. lol...
OK, beethoven9th, you've had your fun with my name....enough already.
Quote: kubikulannIt is equivalent to a betting progression of 1, 3, 7, 15, 31 etc.
Hello, kubikulann.
Yes, you're referring to the "Grand Martingale" progression.....as suicidal as they come.
Quote: gr8playerHello, kubikulann.
Yes, you're referring to the "Grand Martingale" progression.....as suicidal as they come.
gr8player,
What happened to your friend gr8varmenti? And your other friend gr8dmscr? Please respond.
Your humble student,
gr8beethoven
Quote: rob45I would like for gr8player to explain to varmenti .
In other words, you want him to look in the mirror
and talk.
Quote: rob45I would like for gr8player to explain to varmenti...
You must mean "gr8varmenti".
Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
Quote: Beethoven9thYou must mean "gr8varmenti".
Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
Gd8varmenti are both banned at the same time now,
something cosmically just about that, I think.
Quote: EvenBobGd8varmenti are both banned at the same time now,
something cosmically just about that, I think.
We'll all have to keep an eye out for new incarnations of "gr8[insert name here]" who will register in the near future. ;)
Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
Quote: Beethoven9th
Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
It's fitting, you being his apt pupil and all..
It is.Quote: Lilchef62I thought this is a Gambling forum?
Read the OP. How the hell is anyone supposed to respond to gr8varmenti's post??Quote: Lilchef62Sound like some kinda social soap opera missing baby sitters.
IIRC, you didn't respond to it, either. You started asking personal questions instead.
Yes.Quote: Lilchef62Is there anyone who likes to actally talk about the game and not each other?
I now choose to ignore those not interested in gambling that simply come on here to bash others for their own entertainment.
While on suspension, I had an opportunity to read many posts and I just want to make a mention:
1) People on here are thinking I'm another member some GR8_Player.
I'm a new member on here and haven't had the chance to chat with that member yet because he just got suspended. The person knows what he is talking about and I personally think the Admin should stop suspending him because he provides good information to this forum.
2) As a new member I have one request to members. Please stop insulting my integrity as a professional gambler. It's best when someone takes their time to share knowledge or Good experiences from the Casino's I highly recommend Giving them a chance and Listen.
3) stop chopping up peoples posts in quote to make yourself look important by misinforming others.
Message to Admin: Please remove the suspension from gr8player because he is one of the members on here I have questions for regarding Casino Gambling and Baccarat.
What we do know for sure is that your beliefs are almost exactly like his.Quote:1) People on here are thinking I'm another member some GR8_Player.
Let me fix your statement:Quote:Please stop insulting my integrity as a professional gambler.
"Please stop insulting my integrity as a professional gambler.....who believes that baccarat can be beaten by money management and following trends."
There.
Like the mods are really going to follow orders from you (or any other member). LOL!Quote:Message to Admin: Please remove the suspension from gr8player because he is one of the members on here I have questions for regarding Casino Gambling and Baccarat.
Quote: varmenti
Message to Admin: Please remove the suspension from gr8player because he is one of the members on here I have questions for regarding Casino Gambling and Baccarat.
I will now give your request due consideration: No.
Ask him in six days.
Quote: varmentiPlease stop insulting
I think the adversaries are forgetting that this is the Betting Systems forum, which implies a certain assumption of credibility within the context of the Wizard's warning label ("All betting systems are worthless. However, for the mathematically challenged, here is a forum of your own.")
It's perfectly ok to try to pinpoint the specifics of the OP's system and philosophy, but the insults are excessive IMO. This is supposed to be an area where people who advocate betting systems are able to communicate with each other.
When the discussions bleed over into the more legitimate forums, then that's your opportunity to strenuously object.
Does that make any sense?
Quote: gpac1377I think the adversaries are forgetting that this is the Betting Systems forum, which implies a certain assumption of credibility within the context of the Wizard's warning label ("All betting systems are worthless. However, for the mathematically challenged, here is a forum of your own.")
It's perfectly ok to try to pinpoint the specifics of the OP's system and philosophy, but the insults are excessive IMO. This is supposed to be an area where people who advocate betting systems are able to communicate with each other.
When the discussions bleed over into the more legitimate forums, then that's your opportunity to strenuously object.
Does that make any sense?
Ya lost me at IMO, sorry man, I choose to ignore this post now because it doesn't relate to my Partner Betting system. thank you for your interest though in pointing it out in this thread.
Quote: Mission146I will now give your request due consideration: No.
Ask him in six days.
Come on Admin, I read the guys Posts and he makes sense, It's other member who seam to set him off the edge. I have a few questions and I don't believe I should have to wait 6 days in hopes he does come back.
Quote: Beethoven9thWhat we do know for sure is that your beliefs are almost exactly like his.
Let me fix your statement:
"Please stop insulting my integrity as a professional gambler.....who believes that baccarat can be beaten by money management and following trends."
There.
Like the mods are really going to follow orders from you (or any other member). LOL!
NO GAME OF CHANCE can be beaten Write this down and make it a lesson.
It's up to the Gambler to manipulate his betting in order to gain an edge over the "Game of Chance" to make $$$.
You can do the math til your blue in the face and you will never beat any Casino "Game of Chance"
Quote: IbeatyouracesOn the contrary, he was asked not to start another thread about the same topic to which he agreed then went and did it anyway. That was the reason for the suspension. He'll be back, just be patient.
There are so many threads on this forum, i find it hard myself to post new threads in fear of getting suspended.
What ever happened to simply giving the Thread starter a "warning" Send a Private message or something. This to me is just childish to suspend a member that provides good information to people and building with the forum.
Just let the guy back on and ask him to remove / undo what he did wrong.
Quote: Ibeatyouraces100% impossible!
Time to block this nonsense.
You can't say that Ibeatyouraces, because I make money consistently at the casino. I do lose many shoes but in my time spent there I learn to limit my losses and leave the table.
Many members will call just that part of it a System (Limiting losses by limiting the session at the table and leaving after 20 hands, $200, or finishing a streak, whatever comes first)
If you don't mind me asking Ibeatyouraces, What is your age and experience playing in Live Casino's.
I recommend reading my "System Requirements" and writing them down.
Quote: Baccarat Professional Gambler Part 1 of 15 - System Requirements
1) A Positive and Professional Attitude at all times.
2) A Bank Roll ($1000.00 is Perfect starting Bankroll) Leave all the rest at home.
3) A Short Term Goal +20% over your Bankroll is adequate for each Session
(Casino's are open 24hrs a day and never run out of money)
4) A Long Term Goal of $1000.00 per day is pretty good for starters.
5) Dress Nice and Be Hygiene friendly. (Don't gamble if you smell like yesterdays underwear)
Have some respect for other Gamblers / Dealers at your table.
6) Basic Knowledge of the Game. (Take 20-60 minutes and learn how the game is played) Don't just jump in and expect to win.
That covers just about everything for now.
I've tried placing salt on the chips, tilting them toward the East, singing to them, letting a dwarf fondle the chips, making bets at only hours and using chicken bones to devine i oo
>You can do the math till you are blue in the face..
You can also ignore the math till you are blue in the face.
Quote: Mission146Admins: Forums are so easy to start your own
look at an example created in just under an hour
extremeultimatepro(Dot) Com
I love the Wizard Of Vegas forum but simply sending a PM to the members so they can address and correct the issue is much more professional.
I hate to see the internet being flooded by new forums opening up because of Power tripping Admins.
Dwarf's ?
Quote: FleaStiff>It's up to the Gambler to manipulate his betting in order to gain an edge over the "Game of Chance" to make $$$.
I've tried placing salt on the chips, tilting them toward the East, singing to them, letting a dwarf fondle the chips, making bets at only hours and using chicken bones to devine i oo
>You can do the math till you are blue in the face..
You can also ignore the math till you are blue in the face.
I need to add an Ignore button to this Post.
It is funny though FleaStiff. I like the name too.
Quote: Mission146If I made a habit of just letting Members undo their transgressions, then there would scarcely be bans for anything. The Forum should bear some resemblance to a RL conversation, in which one cannot simply, "delete," something said or done and have it permanently excused.
Ok then, Thankyou for your answer.
Quote: wrobersonHe seems to know the rules of the game.
He trusts the casino he plays at.
He manages his money
He starts with a set amount he is willing to spend.
He knows when to stop
Sounds like he has a system to me.
I even stated the above statement.
I guess I only hit the preview button...
The word "System" seams to be used alot here.
Goals are also important. know how much you want to make for each session or per day including limiting your hours and breaking in between. Works good for me.
Quote: rob45I would like for gr8player to explain to varmenti that the existence of "choppiness" is far too prevalent for the "partner betting progression" to have any chance of long-term success.
Hello rob45, Choppiness is Bad, you only lose money during that time in the game. Cut your losses and call it a session end if it exceeds 20 hands.
Never wait the whole shoe for a streak to happen, that would be just silly.
Quote: Lilchef62Quote: 7crapsThanksQuote: varmentiBaccarat Partner Betting
Here it is Guys 'n Gals
The perfect betting progression for Partners in Baccarat or just a single player betting both sides.
Player A always Bets Banker / Player B Always Bets Player.
Have fun!!!!!
where did your betting sequence go?
I saw it yesterday one time?
I see similar partner bets being placed where the player has slightly more chips than the banker and when a win happens the winner will pay for the others new bet. I don't see much action in this sort of betting but it seams to work for some people.
I removed it shortly after as to not give people an expectation leaving them thinking it works 100% because it does work 100% if you understand how it works completely.
People on here like to have something handed to them on a silver platter and also want to "Break the bank" all in one sitting. Casino's and Games of chance don't work that way.
OK...Quote: varmentiNO GAME OF CHANCE can be beaten Write this down and make it a lesson.
Now gr8varmenti does a complete 180. LOL!Quote: varmentiIt's up to the Gambler to manipulate his betting in order to gain an edge over the "Game of Chance" to make $$$.
Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
Quote: varmentiYou can't say that Ibeatyouraces, because I make money consistently at the casino.
Have you lost $250,000 at bac like gr8player?
Quote: EvenBobIt's fitting, you being his apt pupil and all..
I thought you were also his "Pupil" EvenBob. I read a few of his posts and you guys are all over them. I don't blame you guys though, I'm 45 years old and been Gambling at a Professional level Since 1996 and I like to from time to time put on my Pupil shoes and "Listen & Learn from Other experienced Members" too
Quote: varmentiI'm 45 years old
45 or...?
Ah, forget it. I'd better shut up now. ;)
Quote: Beethoven9thQuote: varmentiYou can't say that Ibeatyouraces, because I make money consistently at the casino.
Have you lost $250,000 at bac like gr8player?
Heck no. I would never put myself in that situation.
I do lose 100 -150.00 per table quite a bit depending on the time spent.
Some days I start at 10am till 10PM taking small breaks in between shoes / Sessions.
out of maybe 20 shoes played throughout the day, I expect to lose at least 75% of them.
but I'm on the other 25% betting aggressively to reach my goals for each session.
I manage my money by cashing in chips after a +200 win and restart with 1000.00
When I go home I take out any extra Hundreds and replace my money pouch back to 10x 100's in prep for the next day.
I won't lie to you because any gambler will lose Consistantly. Coming out positive is the main thing that we don't really worry about losses.
Quote: Beethoven9th45 or...?
Ah, forget it. I'd better shut up now. ;)
well we are all 25yrs old on the inside.
Why don't you ask him yourself once you have taken your med's, he is in your basement eating hot dogs his mother made him.Quote: varmenti
Message to Admin: Please remove the suspension from gr8player because he is one of the members on here I have questions for regarding Casino Gambling and Baccarat.
of today.
Quote: AxelWolfWhy don't you ask him yourself once you have taken your med's, he is in your basement eating hot dogs his mother made him.
What are you saying AxelWolf. Are you bashing me personally because you have nothing to say or?
nevermind, I'm choosing to just ignore you.