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October 8th, 2013 at 10:32:10 PM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
why are you answering for grea8player ?

Good catch!

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:35:06 PM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
Good catch!

am I missing something here? are you talking to me, I Only had 3 glasses of wine, I'm not drunk.

Are you talking to me?

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:37:13 PM permalink

Now gr8varmenti is replying to everyone and acting like he's not paying attention to who he's replying to. You got caught, bro!

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:38:55 PM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
Now gr8varmenti is replying to everyone and acting like he's not paying attention to who he's replying to. You got caught, bro!

Sorry Beethoven9th, I'm messed up here. i thought they were commenting on tonight's score cards.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:41:53 PM permalink

Quote: varmenti
Sorry Beethoven9th, I'm messed up here. i thought they were commenting on tonight's score cards.

Or you were logged into the wrong account?

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:45:09 PM permalink

Quote: EvenBob
When will this start making $1000 a day like
Gr8varmenti? You must be doing something
wrong.

I don't understand and personally I don't care to know what these guys are doing posting all these numbers, but If you want to test the method for yourself, I've uploaded a pic of the Last 10 shoes played at the Baccarat tables from 7:15 to 1:10 last night at the Casino.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:47:07 PM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
Or you were logged into the wrong account?

Beethoven9th, please stop with the Multiple account BS. I just got home man, give me a break.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:51:16 PM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: varmenti
It's 1:17am EST and I just got home, I'm not ignoring anyone. Give me a chance to settle.

Here are the 10 games I played at the Bac tables.
give these a try:

Start each shoe from Right to left. and just play upto the 20 hands limit unless there is a run or can't get on other tables.
why are you answering for grea8player ?

What is the question?
I don't get it man, You guys are Busting my Chops now.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 10:58:31 PM permalink

To me the real question is how does this stack up against Zumma? Where is Egalite on the subject or GBV? All I'm seeing here is pot lickers taking pot shots. Give us the results of 45,000 real decisions, 600 shoes, and then let the bystanders make up their minds.

When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:02:04 PM permalink

Quote: DeMango
To me the real question is how does this stack up against Zumma? Where is Egalite on the subject or GBV? All I'm seeing here is pot lickers taking pot shots. Give us the results of 45,000 real decisions, 600 shoes, and then let the bystanders make up their minds.

What is Zumma? and How can I access it?

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:08:39 PM permalink

Go to Amazon and look up "Erick St. Germain" He has many tester books out there, mostly out of print. Gamblers Bookstore may have them.

When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:36:39 PM permalink

Varmenti: To get an idea of how the Zumma shoes are used to test various baccarat systems such as yours, it might be helpful to you to check out this link: http://imspirit.wordpress.com/2010/10/02/my-baccarat-shoe-factory/

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:47:28 PM permalink

Excerpt from the link I just posted:

"Playing baccarat is more art than science, and over-analyzing the game won�t help you win. (There�s no such thing as a consistently winning mechanical system.)

True, there is such a thing as analysis paralysis.

But without exhaustively understanding every nuance of the game, how can one hope to win in the long term?

The baccarat artist may think he is relying on his intuition to make a decision, but he is deluding himself if he thinks he�s not just guessing. If he is lucky, he might win for a while, but the odds are against him, and he will lose long term.

The only reason the game is being offered at all by casinos is because its designers have completely analyzed the game and made mathematically certain that the edge belongs to the House. No art was invoked to create the game. Likewise, no amount of artistry will ever help a player consistently win. If there is anything certain about the game, it is this.

All gamblers who rely on �art� eventually lose. The only way to consistently win is to take advantage of exploitable, persistent deficiencies and/or statistical anomalies in the game, and the only way to discover those hidden faults is by exhaustive, critical analysis.

With respect to the statement, �There�s no such thing as a consistently winning mechanical system,� if a method is not objectively systematic and mechanical, then by definition, it is subjectively artsy, and thus no better than simply guessing, doomed to fail in the long run due to the House�s mathematical edge. If there truly are no winning mechanical systems, then trying to beat the House is hopeless, because we cannot win in the long run. If there truly are consistently winning methods, they must by definition be objectively systematic and mechanical.

In the end, if the verdict is that there is no consistent way to gain a definable edge, then the scientist�s analysis paralysis will thankfully save him the many dollars that the artist blindingly loses to the House."

And this excerpt:

"Real baccarat shoes in physical casinos are intentionally biased by shuffle control and have characteristics which significantly differ from what is theoretically expected in a random set. So, you need to base your simulations on results from real casino shoes, not computer generated ones.

Possibly, but where is the objective proof? Reason suggests the opposite is true (Shuffle Control: Why It�s Bad for the House and Beating Random), and I found no quantitative evidence of bias in the live shoes from Zumma (My Baccarat Shoe Factory).

Granted, I would also prefer to test using live shoes, but it would be extremely difficult to compile a database of 100,000 live shoes, let alone 10,000. The best commercially available live shoe data is the 600 + 1000 from the Zumma books, and no statistical signature distinguishes them from realistically computer generated shoes using a virtual deck. They share the same overall ratio of successive frequency of events, and the same average expectancies for the rate of Player, Banker, and Tie decisions.

For all intents and purposes, baccarat decisions whether computer generated from virtual shoes or dealt live from physical casinos appear statistically and practically identical."

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:50:57 PM permalink

Varm.... i'ts simple, BTVN and me asked gr8player a question and you answered as him.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 8th, 2013 at 11:53:35 PM permalink

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Quote: Beethoven9th
Teacher, why did you ignore AxelWolf? He simply wants to observe the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat! Probably waiting me out lol. I'M still in AC so I'm still game. Perhaps I should say im back in vegas then he will accept.

Who can blame him??

AxelWolf
Quote: Beethoven9th
Teacher, why did you ignore AxelWolf? He simply wants to observe the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat! Probably waiting me out lol. I'M still in AC so I'm still game. Perhaps I should say im back in vegas then he will accept.

Who can blame him??

It's 1:17am EST and I just got home, I'm not ignoring anyone. Give me a chance to settle.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:03:58 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
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Quote: Beethoven9th
Teacher, why did you ignore AxelWolf? He simply wants to observe the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat! Probably waiting me out lol. I'M still in AC so I'm still game. Perhaps I should say im back in vegas then he will accept.

Who can blame him??

AxelWolf
Quote: Beethoven9th
Teacher, why did you ignore AxelWolf? He simply wants to observe the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat! Probably waiting me out lol. I'M still in AC so I'm still game. Perhaps I should say im back in vegas then he will accept.

Who can blame him??

It's 1:17am EST and I just got home, I'm not ignoring anyone. Give me a chance to settle.

I'm sorry, this is complete miss understanding. I'm in Niagara falls, Not AC. I should have read the post.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:04:40 AM permalink

Let get a play, by play, ill paraphrases

I asked Gr8player if he would be willing to meet up with me in AC since i was visiting. HE ignored me When i pressed the issue he diapered for a few days.(I assumed he would Waite for me to leave AC)

Then he came back and posted......so i asked him again......Beethoven9th asked him why he was ignoring me. I then asked gr8player the same question. (maby 2 times i forget) I immediately after i quoted BEETHVN9 and asked gr8player why he was ignoring me.... YOU Varm, responded you were not ignoring me, you just got home and were drinking and needed to get your shit (AKA accounts straight)

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:10:52 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Let get a play, by play, ill paraphrases

I asked Gr8player if he would be willing to meet up with me in AC since i was visiting. HE ignored me When i pressed the issue he diapered for a few days.(I assumed he would Waite for me to leave AC)

Then he came back and posted......so i asked him again......Beethoven9th asked him why he was ignoring me. I then asked gr8player the same question. (maby 2 times i forget) I immediately after i quoted BEETHVN9 and asked gr8player why he was ignoring me.... YOU Varm, responded you were not ignoring me, you just got home and were drinking and needed to get your shit (AKA accounts straight)

Again I'm sorry, But if ever you're in Niagara Falls, Ontario, We can get together for Baccarat, no probs.

Gr8Player seams like a good guy, but I don't quite understand his Baccarat Method, But Yea, I'd also like to meetup with Gr8player one day and share some thoughts on the game.

But again sorry for this confusion, I am not Gr8player if you guys want to think that.
I believe I've shared alot about my personal life to have you figure that out.

I assumed because I was gone from 6pm to 1am that members thought I was ignoring their questions on here.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:11:25 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I believe I've shared alot about my personal life to have you figure that out.

But gr8player hasn't.

Or has he? Hmm.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:15:41 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
But gr8player hasn't.

Or has he? Hmm.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...

I think the only person that can help you out with this issue is the Admin of the forum.

I am in Niagara falls, and Gr8player is somewhere in the US.
My car has Canadian plates, My money is Canadian. I only presently Gamble and Eat at Casinos in Niagara falls.

Even though from reading his threads, we do have the same interest in Playing Baccarat, I only believe My methods work best in the Casino's but I haven't had a chance to analyze his Methods of play.

I also believe I may be better looking, lol. Just kidding Gr8player.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:17:57 AM permalink

I don't get it, you seem to read each and every post carefully and normally respond. You seem to be much more well read and a better writer then I. Yet I seem to be able to keep up, and keep all my accounts straight. This is not just a single post where I have been asking him to meet up. To anyone half heatedly following this thread can see whats up. How The selfentitled master of gambling could make such an egregious error, is beyond me

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:18:12 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I also believe I may be better looking, lol. Just kidding Gr8player.

BTW, when you got suspended, how come gr8player started posting more often all of a sudden? And then when you returned, he disappeared for several more days?

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:22:58 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
I don't get it, you seem to read each and every post carefully and normally respond. You seem to be much more well read and a better writer then I. Yet I seem to be able to keep up, and keep all my accounts straight. This is not just a single post where I have been asking him to meet up. To anyone half heatedly following this thread can see whats up. How The selfentitled master of gambling could make such an egregious error, is beyond me

Man I just got in from playing 6 hrs of baccarat at the Casino and when I logged in and started reading threads, I wasn't reading them, I was Sifting through and noticed the keyword Ignoring posts.

Yes it is my fault for assuming and I jumped right in to say I just got home. I didn't give myself a chance to wind down. I had 3 glasses of wine and didn't help my train of though 100%.

I'm sure Gr8Player will respond.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:26:21 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I think the only person that can help you out with this issue is the Admin of the forum.

I am in Niagara falls, and Gr8player is somewhere in the US.
My car has Canadian plates, My money is Canadian. I only presently Gamble and Eat at Casinos in Niagara falls.

Even though from reading his threads, we do have the same interest in Playing Baccarat, I only believe My methods work best in the Casino's but I haven't had a chance to analyze his Methods of play.

I also believe I may be better looking, lol. Just kidding Gr8player.

I SWEAR, IF ONE MORE PERSON USES THIS AS A DEFENSE, I'M GOING TO ____ THEM IN THE FACE.

ANYONE can hide, change or spoof IP's for free and simple. Please this is not a valid alibi as all period.

Some people get caught being stupid and use the same IP

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:29:09 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I'm sure Gr8Player will respond.

I'm sure he will, too.

Also, what about DMSCR? Where is he from?

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:30:04 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
BTW, when you got suspended, how come gr8player started posting more often all of a sudden? And then when you returned, he disappeared for several more days?

It's pure coincidence Beethoven9th, During my 3 day suspension and being a new member I had a chance to read through many stories and yes I also came across many threads that talked about Baccarat and Gr8Player. I had many questions I wanted to post in his threads but by the time my 3 days were up. Gr8player got 7 day suspension.

Beethoven9th, our Betting / Baccarat methods are completely different so if he is your "Teacher" I suggest wait for him because my methods are Much more different than Gr8player's even though the Game is the same.

Please do not confuse yourself. I am not him and he is not I.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:30:21 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti

I'm sure Gr8Player will respond.

I'm sure you will

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:32:04 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
I'm sure he will, too.

Also, what about DMSCR? Where is he from?

I don't know anything about DMSCR?
Please explain?

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:33:01 AM permalink

I too have noticed that Gr8 has all but disappeared since Vasrmnti
showed up. And Varmanti's boot licking fawning attitude toward
Gr8 is exactly fitting if there was someting odd going on.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:38:12 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
I SWEAR, IF ONE MORE PERSON USES THIS AS A DEFENSE, I'M GOING TO ____ THEM IN THE FACE.

ANYONE can hide, change or spoof IP's, it's free and simple. Please this is not a valid alibi at all, period.

Some people get caught being stupid and use the same IP

AxelWolf, Take my word, I am only one person on here. I try to be as honest as I can be in sharing some free information about the way I gamble, I post pic of my family, My Job information, My location, I don't need to hide anything. Please do not associate me with any threads or personal vendettas between you and other members.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:42:41 AM permalink

Quote: EvenBob
I too have noticed that Gr8 has all but disappeared since Vasrmnti
showed up. And Varmanti's boot licking fawning attitude toward
Gr8 is exactly fitting if there was someting odd going on.

Holy crap another one!!! if anyone has a concern over members thinking I am two people. Please address it to the wizard or other admins. I am one person. Please do not compare me to other members. I am only one person.

Are you guys trying to Bust my chops just for kicks? Get over it already.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:43:01 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
...but by the time my 3 days were up. Gr8player got 7 day suspension.

How come you were so quick to bring up gr8player's suspension? I purposely left that part out. Most people don't keep track of other members' suspensions. Hmm...

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:44:52 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I don't know anything about DMSCR?
Please explain?

You don't know who DMSCR is?

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:51:09 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
How come you were so quick to bring up gr8player's suspension? I purposely left that part out. Most people don't keep track of other members' suspensions. Hmm...

You're becoming a Pain in the ass Beethoven9th, If all you guys are ganging up on me to get me kicked out of the forum, just be a Man and say it. and I'll ask the admin to remove me.

I have been very honest with all the members here and I do not deserve to be bullied by all you guys for the sake of nothing.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:53:13 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
You don't know who DMSCR is?

NO!!!! I DON'T KNOW WHO DMSCR IS? PLEASE EXPLAIN ? Beethoven9th

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 12:54:46 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
It's pure coincidence Beethoven9th, During my 3 day suspension and being a new member I had a chance to read through many stories and yes I also came across many threads that talked about Baccarat and Gr8Player. I had many questions I wanted to post in his threads but by the time my 3 days were up. Gr8player got 7 day suspension.

Beethoven9th, our Betting / Baccarat methods are completely different so if he is your "Teacher" I suggest wait for him because my methods are Much more different than Gr8player's even though the Game is the same.

Please do not confuse yourself. I am not him and he is not I.

I really don't care if you are him, or he is you, or not. It dose not matter at this point. You have posted pics and information about yourself and I'm going with that. As I said before, I have respect for you, in that that you didn't hide behind words or a keyboard, You put it all out there. PROPS

As far as some of the things you say about gambling, I know is BULLSHIT. I think you may be over exaggerating some of your claims.(IE the diamond saga) I don't think you, yourself played a KENO glitch. Possibly you know someone who did. I wanted details and you could not give them... YOU LOVE GIVING DETAILS, often more then we want, you have given details on everything from cashing out rounded up slot tickets, and you had for dinner, to how much you tipped that night.

You have said multiple conflicting statements.
I just think your fooling yourself when it comes to gambling. You have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to yourself.

I DO think your a successful and nice guy and probably harmless to anyone.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:00:46 AM permalink

ATTENTION TO ALL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN MY THREADS AND STORIES.

I don't mind to share my methods on gaming,
I will never ask any members for money.
I do not care to help out any members with education. (I AM NOT A TEACHER)
I play Baccarat Professionally and do so for my own purpose.

I do not tolerate other members bullying me on my own thread and believe the admin of the forum should step in and at least resolve this Identity misunderstanding.

Read the rules of the forum and stop bullying me, and clogging my thread with useless garbage.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:03:03 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
Quote: Beethoven9th
You don't know who DMSCR is?
NO!!!! I DON'T KNOW WHO DMSCR IS? PLEASE EXPLAIN ? Beethoven9th

Does this refresh your memory? You specifically wrote a message to him. (Or was it to yourself?)

http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=851710&postcount=53

You knew him a week ago. And judging from what he wrote, you guys go back even further.

Fighting BS one post at a time!

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:09:08 AM permalink

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I really don't care if you are him, or he is you, or not. It dose not matter at this point. You have posted pics and information about yourself and I'm going with that. As I said before, I have respect for you, in that that you didn't hide behind words or a keyboard, You put it all out there. PROPS

As far as some of the things you say about gambling, I know is BULLSHIT. I think you may be over exaggerating some of your claims.(IE the diamond saga) I don't think you, yourself played a KENO glitch. Possibly you know someone who did. I wanted details and you could not give them... YOU LOVE GIVING DETAILS, often more then we want, you have given details on everything from cashing out rounded up slot tickets, and you had for dinner, to how much you tipped that night.

You have said multiple conflicting statements.
I just think your fooling yourself when it comes to gambling. You have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to yourself.

I DO think your a successful and nice guy and probably harmless to anyone.

I'm giving up on defending myself AxelWolf, I don't have to prove myself to people on here I don't even know them or probably will never know them. I simply became a member to share something of interest for those interested.

Yes I can admit I am a Computer guy and if I wanted to do harm, I can simply DDos the server of this forum if I wanted to please myself, it would be much more fun than trying to manipulate the forum with multiple identities.

I don't wish to waste my time with child games. Maybe when I signed on as a member on here a couple weeks ago, it was bad timing. I am planning a vacation for a couple months to goto vegas and wanted to get information on vegas and comps and places to stay and anything vegas related, this forum was the first one I joined "Wizard of Vegas" Boy what a nightmare it turned out to be.

and here I am at 4am EST in the morning trying to defend myself.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:14:08 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
You're becoming a Pain in the ass Beethoven9th, If all you guys are ganging up on me to get me kicked out of the forum, just be a Man and say it. and I'll ask the admin to remove me.

I have been very honest with all the members here and I do not deserve to be bullied by all you guys for the sake of nothing.

Varm...Seriously? You dont get it? Your on a MATH GAMBLING forum, talking about trends and selective betting. Things that even the wizard has discounted.( it's unicorns and fairy's) claiming to be a top notch professional gambler, who is smarter then some of the smartest gamblers in the world.

That's like a kid walking into a high school locker room full of football players, wearing hiked up pink pants, a rainbow colored belt along with grandmas Christmas sweater, and shouting, "Your team sucks and i'll kick all your asses"

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:14:20 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
Does this refresh your memory? You specifically wrote a message to him. (Or was it to yourself?)

http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=851710&postcount=53

You knew him a week ago. And judging from what he wrote, you guys go back even further.

Beethoven9th, you over analyze everything, Now I remember about DMSCR, I received a private message from him on here letting me know that there are many members on here that are (I'm not gonna say those repeated words) and if I wanted to be taken seriously to join another forum vegasmessageboard.

So do you think DMSCR is me too?

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:19:59 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Varm...Seriously? You dont get it? Your on a MATH GAMBLING forum, talking about trends and selective betting. Things that even the wizard has discounted.( it's unicorns and fairy's) claiming to be a top notch professional gambler, who is smarter then some of the smartest gamblers in the world.

That's like a kid walking into a high school locker room full of football players, wearing hiked up pink pants, a rainbow colored belt along with grandmas Christmas sweater, and shouting, "Your team sucks and i'll kick all your asses"

Then why are you so interested in my posts AxelWolf, you're obviously a big shot along with the other hand full of members here. and now you're saying i'm the little guy who has no jurisdiction to hang with the "Big Boys" ?

I may not make enough money as you guys and surely don't have that mansion on the hill but if If that's the way members feel about me, then I'll move on to a lower level Gambling forum for low rollers. I'm sorry I didn't know I'm sharing penny stories with millionaires.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:20:58 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
So do you think DMSCR is me too?

*shrug*

You tell me.

Quote: varmenti
If that's the way members feel about me, then I'll move on to a lower level Gambling forum

Why is it that members who always threaten to leave never actually do? LOL

Fighting BS one post at a time!

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:30:41 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
*shrug*

You tell me.

Why is it that members who always threaten to leave never actually do? LOL

No Comment Beethoven9th.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:31:36 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I'm giving up on defending myself AxelWolf, I don't have to prove myself to people on here I don't even know or probably will never know. I simply became a member to share something of interest for those interested.

Yes I can admit I am a Computer guy and if I wanted to do harm, I can simply DDos the server of this forum if I wanted to please myself, it would be much more fun than trying to manipulate the forum with multiple identities.

I don't wish to waste my time with child games. Maybe when I signed on as a member on here a couple weeks ago, it was bad timing. I am planning a vacation for a couple months to goto vegas and wanted to get information on vegas and comps and places to stay and anything vegas related, this forum was the first one I joined "Wizard of Vegas" Boy what a nightmare it turned out to be.

and here I am at 4am EST in the morning trying to defend myself.

I believe you said, one reason you joined was because, you would like to convince some High rollers you have a winning system, so you could get a 6 man team together and pound on the casino's

If you want ANY GAMBLING respect, then you must defend yourself and bring fourth some type of proof. I will say it again, some of the smartest people in the world dealing with gambling, mathematics and statistics including very successful AP's. Have said, that the kind of system your using CAN'T BE A WINNING SYSTEM. Perhaps You may be getting lucky, but it wont last forever, if you keep doing it, eventually you WILL LOSE. LOGICLY, explain why they are wrong.
All this "My system works for ME" not going to cut it. When you get backed into a corner, you just cant come up with BS like well I didn't explain everything I do.

Prove us all wrong, seriously I would love for you to do that.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:35:29 AM permalink

Quote: varmenti
I'm giving up on defending myself AxelWolf, I don't have to prove myself to people on here I don't even know or probably will never know. I simply became a member to share something of interest for those interested.
You don't have to prove yourself, yet you repeatedly suggest to everyone here to meet you at Fallsview so they can watch the Master at work.

Yes I can admit I am a Computer guy and if I wanted to do harm, I can simply DDos the server of this forum if I wanted to please myself, it would be much more fun than trying to manipulate the forum with multiple identities.

I don't wish to waste my time with child games. Maybe when I signed on as a member on here a couple weeks ago, it was bad timing. I am planning a vacation for a couple months to goto vegas and wanted to get information on vegas and comps and places to stay and anything vegas related, this forum was the first one I joined "Wizard of Vegas" Boy what a nightmare it turned out to be.
Why should you join this forum under that premise? Your profile at Vegas Message Board shows you've been to Vegas fifty (50) times! Surely by now you've got an idea how the town works.

and here I am at 4am EST in the morning trying to defend myself.

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:36:02 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
I believe you said, one reason you joined was because, you would like to convince some High rollers you have a winning system, so you could get a 6 man team together and pound on the casino's

If you want ANY GAMBLING respect, then you must defend yourself and bring fourth some type of proof. I will say it again, some of the smartest people in the world dealing with gambling, mathematics and statistics including very successful AP's. Have said, that the kind of system your using CAN'T BE A WINNING SYSTEM. Perhaps You may be getting lucky, but it wont last forever, if you keep doing it, eventually you WILL LOSE. LOGICLY, explain why they are wrong.
All this "My system works for ME" not going to cut it. When you get backed into a corner, you just cant come up with BS like well I didn't explain everything I do.

Prove us all wrong, seriously I would love for you to do that.

I'm just not good enough to explain it all I guess.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

varmenti

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October 9th, 2013 at 1:38:30 AM permalink

Quote: rob45
Quote: varmenti
I'm giving up on defending myself AxelWolf, I don't have to prove myself to people on here I don't even know or probably will never know. I simply became a member to share something of interest for those interested.
You don't have to prove yourself, yet you repeatedly suggest to everyone here to meet you at Fallsview so they can watch the Master at work.

Yes I can admit I am a Computer guy and if I wanted to do harm, I can simply DDos the server of this forum if I wanted to please myself, it would be much more fun than trying to manipulate the forum with multiple identities.

I don't wish to waste my time with child games. Maybe when I signed on as a member on here a couple weeks ago, it was bad timing. I am planning a vacation for a couple months to goto vegas and wanted to get information on vegas and comps and places to stay and anything vegas related, this forum was the first one I joined "Wizard of Vegas" Boy what a nightmare it turned out to be.
Why should you join this forum under that premise? Your profile at Vegas Message Board shows you've been to Vegas fifty (50) times! Surely by now you've got an idea how the town works.

and here I am at 4am EST in the morning trying to defend myself.

no comment Rob45, you're right, I should know it all by now.

"If it ain't Broke, Don't fix it" "Please note that my threads & posts are strictly for Educational purposes only and I do not care if you choose to Win or Lose your money. " "Sometimes, Its not about the money, Its about being able to say yea, It can be done, and claim victory. That's Genius!!!" "There is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics."

varmenti