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drjohnny
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June 28th, 2013 at 8:08:40 AM permalink
Just came across this Dragon 7 Count System for Baccarat and it seems legit.

The author claims "if you have a $50k bankroll, can find a heads-up EZ-Baccarat table with a $100 max Dragon-7 bet, are committed to playing for hundreds of hours, and don’t draw any suspicion from casino personnel, then you can win from $50 to $100 per hour, depending on how fast you play."

He also has a useful Dragon 7 shoe simulator.

I wish I had $50k to spare... LOL
teliot
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June 28th, 2013 at 11:28:10 AM permalink
Here is the original article on the Dragon 7 bet. The countability of this wager has become such mainstream knowledge that my name is no longer associated with it. I suppose that's a good thing, but humility has never been one of my stronger personality traits.
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drjohnny
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June 29th, 2013 at 3:43:15 AM permalink
teliot, I have been playing the shoe simulator and surprisingly busted out a couple times already with a 500 unit bankroll.

However, I have yet to come close to busting out with a 1,000 unit bankroll.

What is the risk of ruin if a 1,000 unit bankroll is incorporated?

Also, do you know of any professional gamblers who have made at least $100k using your system without getting banned?
teliot
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June 29th, 2013 at 8:14:57 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

What is the risk of ruin if a 1,000 unit bankroll is incorporated?

Also, do you know of any professional gamblers who have made at least $100k using your system without getting banned?

For the first, if you are a serious AP, then you should be able to find opportunities that are quantum levels more profitable and less risky. For the second, I know one individual who made $100k before my article came out. He was making $1000 Dragon bets.

APs look not only at edge but also at volatility. The Dragon bet, with its huge standard deviation, is a very unlikely target for a high-level AP. That said, I hear from my sources that individuals and teams continue to be backed off.
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drjohnny
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June 29th, 2013 at 11:19:39 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

For the first, if you are a serious AP, then you should be able to find opportunities that are quantum levels more profitable and less risky.



Do you mean BJ card counting and craps dice control?

I thought BJ card counting with big stakes was a sure fire way to get quickly banned these days.

BTW, is the risk of ruin for Dragon 7 counting with a 1,000 unit bankroll under 1%?
teliot
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June 29th, 2013 at 11:22:51 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

Do you mean BJ card counting and craps dice control?

BJ card counting is yesterday's news. Dice control is crap.

Type any card-based table game or side bet into Google, and type some key word with it (e.g. card counting, hole-carding, edge sorting, collusion).
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June 29th, 2013 at 12:32:15 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

Dice control is crap..



Do you think the Dice Dominator documentary on the History Channel was a work of fiction?

I'm on the fence regarding dice control. I've seen a few dice controllers at the casino have monster rolls that exceeded 30. At the same time, I've also seen a random roller win a $4k bonus by hitting all 6 points before sevening out.
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June 29th, 2013 at 1:08:10 PM permalink
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Do you think the Dice Dominator documentary on the History Channel was a work of fiction?

Either you want to be an advantage player or you don't, I don't care which you chose.
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June 29th, 2013 at 1:32:19 PM permalink
So what games are currently best for advantage players who want to avoid getting banned?
teliot
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June 29th, 2013 at 1:34:53 PM permalink
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So what games are currently best for advantage players who want to avoid getting banned?

One of the biggest plays at present is hole-carding Mississippi Stud. I have been doing a lot of work in my blog, talks and seminar to get the word out on that. I write about many things that pass my eyes (or I can imagine passing an APs eyes). A decade ago it was hole-carding Three Card Poker. When 6/5 blackjack first came out, APs had infinitely many blackjack hole-card opportunities. And so on.

Possibly the high-level APs who frequent this site will share additional information with you.
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June 29th, 2013 at 5:18:01 PM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

Do you think the Dice Dominator documentary on the History Channel was a work of fiction?

I'm on the fence regarding dice control. I've seen a few dice controllers at the casino have monster rolls that exceeded 30. At the same time, I've also seen a random roller win a $4k bonus by hitting all 6 points before sevening out.



That program is incredibly cheesy and obviously staged. This isn't the type of program you should be watching to get information on how to get an advantage at gambling.

"Monster rolls" are almost irrelevant when determining whether a shooter is skilled or not. The probability of making a monster roll is only slightly higher for a skilled shooter than it would be for a random roller.

On the flipside there's an intense amount of negativity concerning this subject from nerdy math obsessives. This is mostly to do with them showing off in front of other nerds and trying to buy credibility to advance up the nerd hierarchy.

Dice control is verifiable under certain extreme conditions. Much less so under generic conditions. The two controlled experiments that have been done yielded positive results that stopped just short of being statistically conclusive in aggregate.
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June 30th, 2013 at 3:11:24 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

Here is the original article on the Dragon 7 bet. The countability of this wager has become such mainstream knowledge that my name is no longer associated with it. I suppose that's a good thing, but humility has never been one of my stronger personality traits.



That analysis is trivial and superficial. You missed something very obvious.
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July 9th, 2013 at 8:52:43 PM permalink
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