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They are now closing due to a covid outbreak, and hope to reopen late August.
That damned surge.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/
If only there was a vaccine and other things to prevent this sort of thing.Quote: MrVChinook Winds casino located in Lincoln City, Oregon on the Oregon coast is my "go too" casino.
They are now closing due to a covid outbreak, and hope to reopen late August.
That damned surge.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/
Quote: AxelWolfIf only there was a vaccine and other things to prevent this sort of thing.
You are joking but a new study released today by the Mayo Clinic says the Pfizer vaccine is less than 40% effective against stopping you from getting the new variant. At least eight people in my wife's family were all vaccinated with Pfizer and they all got covid in the last 2 weeks.
Quote: EvenBobYou are joking but a new study released today by the Mayo Clinic says the Pfizer vaccine is less than 40% effective against stopping you from getting the new variant. At least eight people in my wife's family were all vaccinated with Pfizer and they all got covid in the last 2 weeks.
And were any of them hospitalized?
Still, it is worrisome because Pfizer is the first vaccine in the queue to be officially approved.
Pfizer is ahead of Moderna and Johnson & Johnson on acquiring data. Let's hope that Moderna and J&J have a higher effectiveness against Delta-v than Pfizer. Otherwise this whole thing unravels.
3% of the population is now eligible for a booster
Quote: EvenBobAt least eight people in my wife's family were all vaccinated with Pfizer and they all got covid in the last 2 weeks.
You can pick up the story of how EvenBob's wife's family reunion trip turned into a superspreader event over on DT at http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3444/21/#post170056
TLDR: one infected, coughing unmasked passenger in a car full of vaccinated family members travelling many hours to go infect the broader family. It didn't end well. It hasn't ended yet.
Since this is a topic that EvenBob is passionate about,
I expect that further conversation about the event might get controversial. So, please keep it at DT.
Damned surge indeed! I think we can accept the profanity 'd' word.Quote: MrVand hope to reopen late August.
That damned surge.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/
I reckon it's a bit early for anyone to hope for things to improve in just 2 weeks.
2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?
Good luck, but don't hold your breath for the joyful reopening in 'late August'
Quote: OnceDearDamned surge indeed! I think we can accept the profanity 'd' word.
I reckon it's a bit early for anyone to hope for things to improve in just 2 weeks.
2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?
Good luck, but don't hold your breath for the joyful reopening in 'late August'
Warning issued for making a controversial statement.
As a reminder to everyone, discussion of Covid should be limited to it's affects on the gaming business and/or your own play. Any discussion should be statements of fact and not finger pointing and conspiracy theories. If you wish to go beyond that, please take it to DT.
I think if everyone got vaccinated wore masks and kept some social distancing as much as possible it might get us to a point where it is not something we need to worry about. for the life of me, I still can't figure out how I never got it. It's not like I was going around licking door nobs, but I certainly wasn't being all that cautious. I few multiple times, I went to a Superbowl party, I went to group dinners, I hung out with friends who had been traveling, I didn't run around sanitizing frequently, I was around people who probably had it at the time. I was fairly sloppy with mask-wearingQuote: EvenBobYou are joking but a new study released today by the Mayo Clinic says the Pfizer vaccine is less than 40% effective against stopping you from getting the new variant. At least eight people in my wife's family were all vaccinated with Pfizer and they all got covid in the last 2 weeks.
You may be familiar with the advice to finish antibiotics you're prescribed, and not just stop when you feel better. Because in that case, you can help make antibiotic resistant disease.
Although it's not likely to work like that with vaccines, it would be nice if people got both shots.
Quote: WizardWarning issued for making a controversial statement.
As a reminder to everyone, discussion of Covid should be limited to it's affects on the gaming business and/or your own play. Any discussion should be statements of fact and not finger pointing and conspiracy theories. If you wish to go beyond that, please take it to DT.
OD was addressing the post about hopefully casinos aren't affected in two weeks.
The profanity"d" word I assumed was because OD called Covid a "damned" surge.
I know some political comments refer to the "D" word for Democrats but I don't think OD meant "D" word as in Democrat.
Being from across the pond it's not even his politics.
You have me wondering now.Quote: darkozQuote: WizardWarning issued for making a controversial statement.
As a reminder to everyone, discussion of Covid should be limited to it's affects on the gaming business and/or your own play. Any discussion should be statements of fact and not finger pointing and conspiracy theories. If you wish to go beyond that, please take it to DT.
OD was addressing the post about hopefully casinos aren't affected in two weeks.
The profanity"d" word I assumed was because OD called Covid a "damned" surge.
I know some political comments refer to the "D" word for Democrats but I don't think OD meant "D" word as in Democrat.
Being from across the pond it's not even his politics.
I'd accepted the rebuke for the statement "2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?"
Which was as uncontroversial as I could have made it.
There was nothing in my post about the d word meaning Democrat. That was never in my mind at all. I was literally just saying that I saw no problem in the word 'Damned' which I referred to as the 'd' word.
Has wizard misinterpreted? I'll ask him.
Quote: AxelWolffor the life of me, I still can't figure out how I never got it. It's not like I was going around licking door nobs, but I certainly wasn't being all that cautious. I few multiple times, I went to a Superbowl party, I went to group dinners, I hung out with friends who had been traveling, I didn't run around sanitizing frequently, I was around people who probably had it at the time. I was fairly sloppy with mask-wearing
How often were you actually in casinos playing on the floor. Slots people are somewhat separated. I don't play slots. At table games, before I started playing at my own private reserved table, players have been right next to each other for some time. Even at a private table I am close to the dealer, and the dealer is close to many people all week long. I've been on casino floors at table games average of a few times a week for the past five months.
And then also last Fall 2020, was on the casino floor at table games, public tables, almost daily for a couple months.
That said, I did write an article that somewhat analyzed the whole Covid thing and its relationship to casinos last year:
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/corona-crashes-casinos/
I also made some prognostications, which I think turned out to be pretty good overall!
Quote: OnceDearYou have me wondering now.Quote: darkozQuote: WizardWarning issued for making a controversial statement.
As a reminder to everyone, discussion of Covid should be limited to it's affects on the gaming business and/or your own play. Any discussion should be statements of fact and not finger pointing and conspiracy theories. If you wish to go beyond that, please take it to DT.
OD was addressing the post about hopefully casinos aren't affected in two weeks.
The profanity"d" word I assumed was because OD called Covid a "damned" surge.
I know some political comments refer to the "D" word for Democrats but I don't think OD meant "D" word as in Democrat.
Being from across the pond it's not even his politics.
I'd accepted the rebuke for the statement "2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?"
Which was as uncontroversial as I could have made it.
There was nothing in my post about the d word meaning Democrat. That was never in my mind at all. I was literally just saying that I saw no problem in the word 'Damned' which I referred to as the 'd' word.
Has wizard misinterpreted? I'll ask him.
I'm thinking Wizard thought D word was for Democrats because he referenced conspiracy theories and finger pointing in his rebuke.
Quote: darkozQuote: OnceDearYou have me wondering now.Quote: darkozQuote: WizardWarning issued for making a controversial statement.
As a reminder to everyone, discussion of Covid should be limited to it's affects on the gaming business and/or your own play. Any discussion should be statements of fact and not finger pointing and conspiracy theories. If you wish to go beyond that, please take it to DT.
OD was addressing the post about hopefully casinos aren't affected in two weeks.
The profanity"d" word I assumed was because OD called Covid a "damned" surge.
I know some political comments refer to the "D" word for Democrats but I don't think OD meant "D" word as in Democrat.
Being from across the pond it's not even his politics.
I'd accepted the rebuke for the statement "2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?"
Which was as uncontroversial as I could have made it.
There was nothing in my post about the d word meaning Democrat. That was never in my mind at all. I was literally just saying that I saw no problem in the word 'Damned' which I referred to as the 'd' word.
Has wizard misinterpreted? I'll ask him.
I'm thinking Wizard thought D word was for Democrats because he referenced conspiracy theories and finger pointing in his rebuke.
I've had clarification. Wizard was not interpreting the D as meaning Democrat. His warning was for the statement "2 weeks won't see many policies or minds changed. Why would anything improve?"
As Wizard says, he holds moderators to a higher standard, so I accept his rebuke.
If you are taking anything like Losartan with the properties of an angiotensin, that could be obliterating the Ace-2 receptor, a strong attraction for the Coronavirus.Quote: AxelWolfFor the life of me, I still can't figure out how I never got it. It's not like I was going around licking door nobs, but I certainly wasn't being all that cautious. I few multiple times, I went to a Superbowl party, I went to group dinners, I hung out with friends who had been traveling, I didn't run around sanitizing frequently, I was around people who probably had it at the time. I was fairly sloppy with mask-wearing
Quote: Mission146As an investor, MDawggy Dawg, I think you in particular will appreciate the above-linked article---if I may be so bold to say so.
Yes quite correct - over all the market did overreact, as it often does, and then eventually went to new all time highs.
As far as casinos and income, I understand that Venetian made more money than Wynn last quarter. Perhaps their policy of lowering room rates and bringing in a lower end crowd helped their bottom line, as much as it might have bothered Venetian's previous higher end customers.
Quote: SanchoPanzaIf you are taking anything like Losartan with the properties of an angiotensin, that could be obliterating the Ace-2 receptor, a strong attraction for the Coronavirus.
Hmmm, I take Losartan.
I stood overnight with a group of four and two days later everyone in the room discovered they had Covid EXCEPT ME!
I quarantined for two weeks, then got an antibody test and was negative so I am not guessing here.
Perhaps I was just lucky.
One might call that an...oh NVM.Quote: MDawg
And then also last Fall 2020, was on the casino floor at table games, public tables, almost daily for a couple months.
FYI, I dont only play slots as you seem to think. At one point during my career, I had played at some kind of table game with some type of an advantage every day except for a few holidays for a solid 2 years.
I play anything and everything that has a good enough advantage.
It's hard to really say how much time I spent in the casino up until the time I got the vax, nowadays, I spend the least amount of time in casinos as I can unless something really juicy comes up that gets excited and really motivates me.
I really dont think the time I spent in the casinos would have been the most likely place for me to have gotten covid. I traveled to Columbia and a few different states.
I have no clue what you just said. At this time I take zero medication for anything, and I haven't in years, except for the occasional prescription like antibiotics. I think my doctor told me I should be taking vitamin D daily, but I dont.Quote: SanchoPanzaIf you are taking anything like Losartan with the properties of an angiotensin, that could be obliterating the Ace-2 receptor, a strong attraction for the Coronavirus.
Quote: AxelWolf
I really dont think the time I spent in the casinos would have been the most likely place for me to have gotten covid. I traveled to Columbia and a few different states.
Wow, Axel is expanding his AP to Columbia now. How many kilos did you AP?
Not really, I went mostly because my brother who lived there for many years talked me into it. He went on and on about how great it was, how beautiful the girls were, and how great the culture was. I really didn't see any of that. I have very little interest in going back.Quote: DRichWow, Axel is expanding his AP to Columbia now. How many kilos did you AP?
I spent very little time in the casinos while there, I was planning on doing more scouting, unfortunately at some point, and to put it mildly, my brother and I were not getting along very well, I needed him for translating, etc.
There was some stuff worth about $25 an hour, I guess that would be a good wage if you lived there.
I got some dental work done while there, I did meet up with another AP who just happened to be there, and I did a little bit of touristy stuff.
Quote: OnceDear
As Wizard says, he holds moderators to a higher standard, so I accept his rebuke.
The alternative would be what, exactly.
Quote: DRichWow, Axel is expanding his AP to Columbia now. How many kilos did you AP?
I had a buddy in college whose family grew and packed coffee in Colombia.
Zeke loved to smoke pot and found the stuff available in the USA inferior, so he had his brother hook him up.
It was cool to watch him use a can opener to open a sealed container labeled as Colombian coffee, only to find it was filled with top shelf Colombian cannabis instead.
I am a graduate of COLUMBIA University
There is a city in Missouri named Columbia.
The freaking country you are alluding to is COLOMBIA.
Quote: SOOPOOWithout quoting all the agonizing posts from Axel and MrV….
I am a graduate of COLUMBIA University
There is a city in Missouri named Columbia.
The freaking country you are alluding to is COLOMBIA.
Very common problem. I did not know you went to Columbia. I took my daughter to Columbia for a recruiting visit. She was a little overwhelmed with the city and the iron gate around the campus to keep Harlem out. She did like NYU but I was trying to steer her towards Princeton because that was the campus I liked.
Quote: SOOPOOWithout quoting all the agonizing posts from Axel and MrV….
I am a graduate of COLUMBIA University
There is a city in Missouri named Columbia.
The freaking country you are alluding to is COLOMBIA.
I find it remarkable the first Columbia that pops into your head is in Missouri and not South Carolina.
Quote: unJonI find it remarkable the first Columbia that pops into your head is in Missouri and not South Carolina.
My son went to college at Mizzou….
A constitutional crisis.Quote: EvenBobThe alternative would be what, exactly.
Options were
Accept the rebuke with good grace
Reject the rebuke politely explaining why.
Stomp off in a huff.
Do and say nothing.
Quote: MDawgYes quite correct - over all the market did overreact, as it often does, and then eventually went to new all time highs.
As far as casinos and income, I understand that Venetian made more money than Wynn last quarter. Perhaps their policy of lowering room rates and bringing in a lower end crowd helped their bottom line, as much as it might have bothered Venetian's previous higher end customers.
I guess we will have to see how all of that comes out in the long run. I'd also assume that our definitions of, 'Lower end,' differ.
At any rate, thanks for checking out the article!
Quote: darkozHmmm, I take Losartan.
I stood overnight with a group of four and two days later everyone in the room discovered they had Covid EXCEPT ME!
I quarantined for two weeks, then got an antibody test and was negative so I am not guessing here.
Perhaps I was just lucky.
The unaccounted item in this discussion is natural immunity. I would be considered a high risk due to my age -- 80; my Type 2 diabetes, my stage 3 kidney failure, high blood pressure ( I take Losartin), and my weight, however, I have been remarkably resistant to most forms of communicable disease. I have been out in public without masking since the beginning. I am extremely confident in my natural immunity, and if most anyone were to examine the overall numbers of infections, a small fraction of populations have been stricken; a smaller number have been hospitalized; and a still smaller number have died. Guessing and speculation are just not helpful.
I believe the Spanish Flu, back in the day, killed 50 million. We are nowhere near those numbers.
tuttigym.
Quote: Wellbushi think it's already been said, but it's worth repeating....it's best to get vaccinated coz besides it reducing one's chances of being infected, if one is infected but vaccinated, one's reaction to the virus is generally much lower.
I absolutely agree, and I am fully vaccinated. Thank you for the affirmation.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymThe unaccounted item in this discussion is natural immunity. I would be considered a high risk due to my age -- 80; my Type 2 diabetes, my stage 3 kidney failure, high blood pressure ( I take Losartin), and my weight, however, I have been remarkably resistant to most forms of communicable disease. I have been out in public without masking since the beginning. I am extremely confident in my natural immunity, and if most anyone were to examine the overall numbers of infections, a small fraction of populations have been stricken; a smaller number have been hospitalized; and a still smaller number have died. Guessing and speculation are just not helpful.
I believe the Spanish Flu, back in the day, killed 50 million. We are nowhere near those numbers.
tuttigym.
Well, that's fifty million worldwide but at a time when we didn't have the same medical knowledge we do now.
Also Europe was embroiled in a war in muddy trenches, perfect breeding ground for diseases.
Finally, the number of deaths in the US were only 292,000. I think if you are going to compare US Covid-19 deaths to the Spanish Flu, we are doing horrible in comparison
Quote: Wellbushi think it's already been said, but it's worth repeating....it's best to get vaccinated coz besides it reducing one's chances of being infected, if one is infected but vaccinated, one's reaction to the virus is generally much lower.
Look who it is! How have you been?
Quote: darkozWell, that's fifty million worldwide but at a time when we didn't have the same medical knowledge we do now.
Also Europe was embroiled in a war in muddy trenches, perfect breeding ground for diseases.
Finally, the number of deaths in the US were only 292,000. I think if you are going to compare US Covid-19 deaths to the Spanish Flu, we are doing horrible in comparison
This "pandemic" is world wide. The world's population at that time was less than half of today. While our medical knowledge is certainly more advanced now, there are similar conditions, including wars, throughout highly populated places of slums, starvation, refugee encampments, unsanitary spaces, and medical service voids.
What saved the US: very little international and in-country travel not our medical knowledge or lack thereof.
With the exception of this current year, the world, including the US, still suffers 10's of thousand of deaths from all forms of flu even with our "advanced medical" knowledge. The comparison, I believe, is valid.
tuttigym
according to CDC there were over 140,000 new cases yesterday
I guess this is similar to surges in the past
but from what I understand the Delta variant is not as deadly
still, it's quite shocking
I'm a tutor - and it might be yet another year where I'm not allowed into my school
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days
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