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July 5th, 2019 at 12:27:33 PM permalink
Anyone been on a cruise for Royal Caribbean Ovation of the Seas lately? Am going on an Alaska cruise at the end of August and was wondering what games were offered/limits/etc.

Saw a video of the games, but it was hard to make out, plus I am told they change the games depending on the cruise location (ie more Sic Bo/Baccarat when in China)
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November 5th, 2019 at 12:06:43 AM permalink
Just an update, sorry so late.

The following games and minimums were observed on the above cruise

Three Card Poker ($10 Ante, $5 Pair Plus, $5 Six card Bonus)
Ultimate Holdem ($10 Ante, $5 Trips)
BlackJack ($10 minimum, some $15, Lucky Ladies sidebet)
Craps ($5)
Roulette ($5 minimum outside, $5 inside)
Baccart ($300 minimum - yes, thats not a typo, $300 minimum)
They had a live dealer No LImit Holdem running during peak times ($2-$4 Blinds)
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November 5th, 2019 at 1:04:35 AM permalink
Perhaps they did not have a baccarat crew on duty ?
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December 12th, 2019 at 7:49:28 AM permalink
Ovation of the Seas shore excursion was on White Island during volcanic eruption. Tourists wearing tee shirts and shorts had massive loss of skin upon arrival at excursion boat which became triage center despite lack of supplies. ALL New Zealand burn centers filled beyond capacity.
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December 13th, 2019 at 12:59:35 PM permalink
The idea of the world's largest cruise ship having a shore excursion on a volcano island at a moment when the volcano erupts - is so ridiculous that if anyone had proposed that as the plot of a disaster movie, they would have been laughed out of their meeting.

And Royal Carribean is refunding to every passenger on the Ovation the equivalent of one day's cabin rental. LOL.
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December 13th, 2019 at 3:40:34 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

The idea of the world's largest cruise ship having a shore excursion on a volcano island at a moment when the volcano erupts - is so ridiculous that if anyone had proposed that as the plot of a disaster movie, they would have been laughed out of their meeting.

yeah, horrible bad negative variance for them.

a week after that happened, i was on a caribbean island where locals were offering volcano rim tour hikes.
i asked about concern for it erupting because of what happened to the tourists in new zealand.
they said their volcano has been dormant for 50+ years. (yet, i've read you can still smell the sulfur in the air when you're near it.)
yeah, i passed on that. (but i probably would have taken it if i was there before the new zealand story.)
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December 13th, 2019 at 7:18:28 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

yeah, horrible bad negative variance


Tours been going on for 20 years. Day it happens won't ever be good news, but November elevated risk assessment should have prompted a 'lets buy some long rubber coats and respirators for the guides and lets put a blurb in the ship board newsletter.
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December 14th, 2019 at 7:34:02 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Tours been going on for 20 years. Day it happens won't ever be good news, but November elevated risk assessment should have prompted a 'lets buy some long rubber coats and respirators for the guides and lets put a blurb in the ship board newsletter.

Murphy's law, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong", which often is used to complain about bad luck, if stated with emphasis on the word 'will', i.e."Anything that can go wrong *will* go wrong", actually is an exercise in exploring the logic of the Law of Large Numbers if you also add the word 'eventually' .

Seems to me the people at Boeing forgot this is true.

And I think we can say the operators of the cruise ship were actually woefully ignorant of the law.* The recent event was inevitable in that the probability of it happening was presumably not astronomical .

* assuming they didn't crunch the numbers and, with dastardly greed, decide they come out ahead. Maybe this happened at Boeing too.
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December 14th, 2019 at 8:31:14 AM permalink
may have happened at Boeing, sure didn't happen on the cruise ship. it is astronomical: one day after 20 years?
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December 14th, 2019 at 10:19:02 AM permalink
The fact that it erupted without sufficient warning (earthquakes, etc) to make people stay away and erupted while the tourists were actually on the island (there is no 24-7 population on the island), makes it very unlucky.
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