UK casinos
May 22nd, 2022 at 10:18:28 AM
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In the UK (England, Scotland, (probably) Northern Ireland), there are 2 types of casinos:
- Slot parlors (ie: Admiral, Merkur, Leisure Time)
- 'Real' casinos with table games (ie: Grosvenor, Genting)
All the above casinos were the ones i went to and are chains.
I did not see any independent real casinos but saw several independent slot parlors advertised as amusement (video games) with a slot machine section in the back for 18+.
For all slots in the UK, the help menu will list the return % of the game.
For some games, the higher bets will have higher returns. (see below)
If it says just one #, then all denoms of the game has the same return.
I don't recognize any of the the slots in the slot parlors. None look vulturable and i didn't try.
In the real casinos there were LOTS of roulette, both tables and stadium type e-Roulette. (All single 0 with European rules for 1:1 bets)
They also had BJ. From what i saw, all were 3:2 and s17 (stand soft17).
Grosvenor also had some sort of stud poker type table game. (no pic)
Genting had this:
There werent alot of slots. A vast majority of them were the same type as the slot parlors.
There were a few multi-game cabinets with slots seen in America but it's not vulturable.
ie:
- The bubbles in OM disappear in the next spin.
- The # of coins needed to activate the bonus in KEYs is random every spin. (I've seen the # go between 3 and 5.)
All the 'American' slots in the real casinos were at least 92% but because there's no persistent state, it was feast or famine.
In the KEY game, it was 94% return but the payouts during regular spins suck just like in the game found in the US.
You had to get the bonus else it's famine. I put in $60 at .50/spin and never got the bonus. (I walked away)
I'm assuming it's the same for all games that would be vulturable in the US.
- Slot parlors (ie: Admiral, Merkur, Leisure Time)
- 'Real' casinos with table games (ie: Grosvenor, Genting)
All the above casinos were the ones i went to and are chains.
I did not see any independent real casinos but saw several independent slot parlors advertised as amusement (video games) with a slot machine section in the back for 18+.
For all slots in the UK, the help menu will list the return % of the game.
For some games, the higher bets will have higher returns. (see below)
If it says just one #, then all denoms of the game has the same return.
I don't recognize any of the the slots in the slot parlors. None look vulturable and i didn't try.
In the real casinos there were LOTS of roulette, both tables and stadium type e-Roulette. (All single 0 with European rules for 1:1 bets)
They also had BJ. From what i saw, all were 3:2 and s17 (stand soft17).
Grosvenor also had some sort of stud poker type table game. (no pic)
Genting had this:
There werent alot of slots. A vast majority of them were the same type as the slot parlors.
There were a few multi-game cabinets with slots seen in America but it's not vulturable.
ie:
- The bubbles in OM disappear in the next spin.
- The # of coins needed to activate the bonus in KEYs is random every spin. (I've seen the # go between 3 and 5.)
All the 'American' slots in the real casinos were at least 92% but because there's no persistent state, it was feast or famine.
In the KEY game, it was 94% return but the payouts during regular spins suck just like in the game found in the US.
You had to get the bonus else it's famine. I put in $60 at .50/spin and never got the bonus. (I walked away)
I'm assuming it's the same for all games that would be vulturable in the US.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 10:47:14 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsIn the UK (England, Scotland, (probably) Northern Ireland), there are 2 types of casinos:
- Slot parlors (ie: Admiral, Merkur, Leisure Time)
- 'Real' casinos with table games (ie: Grosvenor, Genting)
All the above casinos were the ones i went to and are chains.
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You should have pinged me if you came to blighty. I'd have love to have bought you a beer.
I think all casinos here are in chains, mostly Grosvenor which is owned by Rank Org or Gentings. The indies got snapped up long ago. Without checking, I think the machines limit is 20 per casino. They have some roulette terminals which are linked to live tables elsewhere.
The Admiral places are what we tend to call amusement arcades. They used to have mostly video games, but they are less popular in the bigger towns. Coastal resorts have bigger amusement arcades which are mostly games machines with a separate adults gambling area.
There are also several chains of high street bookmakers, which cover live sports but have some gambling terminals.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 12:49:02 PM
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Something I've always wondered about:
Are gambling winnings taxable for UK citizens?
Are gambling winnings taxable for UK citizens?
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May 22nd, 2022 at 1:17:32 PM
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Quote: Ace2Something I've always wondered about:
Are gambling winnings taxable for UK citizens?
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Gambling winnings are completely non-taxable for us as players. Our HMRC (like your IRS) don't want to know. No deductions though if we lose. Gambling businesses are taxed as regular businesses, of course.
I thought I'd dropped that bit of info before a gazillion times..
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
May 22nd, 2022 at 2:10:53 PM
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Yes it was a bad attempt at a joke
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May 22nd, 2022 at 2:58:22 PM
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I thought so.Quote: Ace2Yes it was a bad attempt at a joke
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Did I mention our NHS?
Now that's how it's done $:o)
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
May 22nd, 2022 at 3:32:34 PM
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Wait, there's national health service there? I bet it costs a fortune...most people can't afford it
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May 22nd, 2022 at 4:07:49 PM
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I’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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May 23rd, 2022 at 4:08:29 AM
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if you like Mah Jung, the Genting casino in Glasgow has a room full of tables and asian playersQuote: PokerGrinderI’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
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May 23rd, 2022 at 2:53:44 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsif you like Mah Jung, the Genting casino in Glasgow has a room full of tables and asian playersQuote: PokerGrinderI’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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I have no idea how to play sadly. Do they play for money?
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May 24th, 2022 at 1:55:02 AM
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Don't know. I just glanced at the room as I walked past.Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: 100xOddsif you like Mah Jung, the Genting casino in Glasgow has a room full of tables and asian playersQuote: PokerGrinderI’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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I have no idea how to play sadly. Do they play for money?
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I would assume there's $ involved.
Also, have no idea how the casino takes a rake.
Maybe timed rake?
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May 24th, 2022 at 2:34:02 AM
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Next time I'm in England. :)Quote: OnceDearQuote: 100xOddsIn the UK (England, Scotland, (probably) Northern Ireland), there are 2 types of casinos:
- Slot parlors (ie: Admiral, Merkur, Leisure Time)
- 'Real' casinos with table games (ie: Grosvenor, Genting)
All the above casinos were the ones i went to and are chains.
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You should have pinged me if you came to blighty. I'd have love to have bought you a beer.
interesting. Thought those sports book stores just did sports bets.Quote:There are also several chains of high street bookmakers, which cover live sports but have some gambling terminals.
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What kind of slots? (I'm assuming the same as the slot parlors?)
Also, why is England soooooooo big on European Roulette?
It seems like 50% of the casinos floor space is roulette, including stadium seats for e-Roulette.
For those gamblers loving odd/even or red/black bets (1.43% house edge), why aren't they betting Banker in Baccarat instead? (1.06% HE)
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May 24th, 2022 at 10:04:59 AM
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May 24th, 2022 at 10:05:57 AM
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Quote: 100xOdds
Also, why is England soooooooo big on European Roulette?
It seems like 50% of the casinos floor space is roulette, including stadium seats for e-Roulette.
For those gamblers loving odd/even or red/black bets (1.43% house edge), why aren't they betting Banker in Baccarat instead? (1.06% HE)
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To me it seems that Roulette is the game of choice in Europe and blackjack/craps are the favored table games in the USA. Most people play the games/bets they like even though there are lower edge games available. Otherwise, everyone in the casino would be playing don't pass with 3-4-5 odds...I believe it's the lowest edge available at 0.27% <a>
Though black/red, banker and passline (without odds) are essentially coin flips with a low edge, they are very different gaming experiences.
<a>Caveat: there might be a few high minimum blackjack tables with all the most favorable rules (like dealer stands on S17) that have edges comparable to 0.27% or possibly even a few bips lower. Perfect basic strategy required at all times to realize that low edge
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May 24th, 2022 at 10:59:58 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsinteresting. Thought those sports book stores just did sports bets.
What kind of slots? (I'm assuming the same as the slot parlors?)
Also, why is England soooooooo big on European Roulette?
It seems like 50% of the casinos floor space is roulette, including stadium seats for e-Roulette.
For those gamblers loving odd/even or red/black bets (1.43% house edge), why aren't they betting Banker in Baccarat instead? (1.06% HE)
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I don't go into bookmakers so I asked my Sister In law who works in one. Her gaff has 4 multigame slots and two sports bet self service terminals.
Most of our casinos are TINY. So they might only have one or two roulette tables and maybe 3 BJ tables plus a few tables with Baccarat and some other game. BJ requires at least a bit of knowledge of the game, so is less popular than roulette, which, face it is not a game of skill. Yes. many e-roulette tables too. Baccarat not very popular.
My local provincial place usually has only one live BJ table and one live roulette table open from 3pm . Only e-games before that. Maybe roulette gets the space because it has a higher hold.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
May 24th, 2022 at 12:10:11 PM
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Quote: OnceDearI don't go into bookmakers so I asked my Sister In law who works in one. Her gaff has 4 multigame slots and two sports bet self service terminals.
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More like FOBT's, or.more like fruits?
May the cards fall in your favor.
June 9th, 2022 at 11:57:09 AM
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Quote: PokerGrinderI’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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I was last in Ireland 3 years ago. The casino's usually contain only slots, or only table games, with a few exceptions where they have both. Along the river in Dublin there are a few of the slots places, filled mostly with these kind of MHB progressives: https://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/mystery-jackpot-ainsworth/
In the short time I was there it seemed like it would be a miracle to get a seat at a machine in a +EV state, as the regulars were prepared to play them to completing from very low numbers.
If you're into counting, most of the blackjack tables were shoe dealt 6 deck with good rules, house edges varying between 99.79% and -0.24%. Sadly there was a sign indicating the game which was EV+ off the top was going to be replaced soon, so it might not be there anymore. Either way the penetration wasn't bad, some of the dealers were error prone, and there were some decent progressive countable sidebet jackpots.
Also Dublin is an awesome city to visit.
June 9th, 2022 at 12:12:35 PM
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Quote: Dieter
More like FOBT's, or.more like fruits?
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FOBT's. All bookies contain exactly 4 of them. The machines in Ladbrokes, Coral and independent places are the same brand you will find in most slots parlours, and they each have a handful of potentially +EV variable state games on them.
October 22nd, 2024 at 11:33:57 AM
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'45 Kensington' casino in London. It's owned by Genting.
No slots I recognize. :(
I'm here because of the restaurant.
45% off tues-thurs if you order a starter and main, or main and dessert.
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February 2nd, 2025 at 8:37:01 PM
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There are some independent casinos, mainly in Mayfair
February 2nd, 2025 at 9:16:07 PM
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Quote: MadPunterThere are some independent casinos, mainly in Mayfair
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February 5th, 2025 at 6:31:55 PM
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MadPunter has been nuked for not complying with the soul test.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 6th, 2025 at 6:31:13 AM
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Quote: WizardMadPunter has been nuked for not complying with the soul test.
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His answers seem knowledgable, especially in the Singapore casino thread.
It didn't seem like ai speak like other new accts.
And he hasn't logged back in since feb 2 so what if he didn't see your soul test?
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February 6th, 2025 at 3:49:51 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsQuote: WizardMadPunter has been nuked for not complying with the soul test.
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His answers seem knowledgable, especially in the Singapore casino thread.
It didn't seem like ai speak like other new accts.
And he hasn't logged back in since feb 2 so what if he didn't see your soul test?
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I think he means that Madpunter necro'd a thread. Necromancy-soul-vampires. Or something.
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February 22nd, 2025 at 8:36:40 PM
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Quote: WizardMadPunter has been nuked for not complying with the soul test.
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I see that MadPunter logged back in today (2/22).
If a person is banned, can he still use pm?
If not, how can a banned person plead his case?
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February 23rd, 2025 at 6:27:20 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsHis answers seem knowledgable, especially in the Singapore casino thread.
It didn't seem like ai speak like other new accts.
And he hasn't logged back in since feb 2 so what if he didn't see your soul test?
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Okay. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and unnuke him. I still have my doubts.
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February 23rd, 2025 at 9:45:58 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsDon't know. I just glanced at the room as I walked past.Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: 100xOddsif you like Mah Jung, the Genting casino in Glasgow has a room full of tables and asian playersQuote: PokerGrinderI’m going to be in Scotland and Ireland in August and hitting up casinos. Dublin has a lot of casinos while Edinburgh and Glasgow each have 3 casinos I plan on checking out. Northern Ireland doesn’t have any “real” casinos.
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I have no idea how to play sadly. Do they play for money?
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I would assume there's $ involved.
Also, have no idea how the casino takes a rake.
Maybe timed rake?
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I still wonder: how do players who play for money handle the situation if someone accidentally knocks over and reveals a tile? Which is something that happens constantly in my family games. (I assume it's rare in gambling situations, but non-zero.)
July 8th, 2025 at 12:52:22 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsNext time I'm in England. :)Quote: OnceDearQuote: 100xOddsIn the UK (England, Scotland, (probably) Northern Ireland), there are 2 types of casinos:
- Slot parlors (ie: Admiral, Merkur, Leisure Time)
- 'Real' casinos with table games (ie: Grosvenor, Genting)
All the above casinos were the ones i went to and are chains.
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You should have pinged me if you came to blighty. I'd have love to have bought you a beer.
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I'm in London this week till Sat morning.
Completely forgot about this post.
You free?
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July 8th, 2025 at 1:29:04 PM
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Genting casinos near me (west of Westminster/Buckingham Palace)
45 Kensington casino (bottom left of pic) still has the 45% off restaurant special from last year.
Now it says expires this Sept. 🙁
They added an Arabic/middle eastern section to the menu and basically doubled the menu size.
The Asian dish, Singapore noodles, was removed.
Waiter said bigger Arabic clientele now
45 Kensington casino (bottom left of pic) still has the 45% off restaurant special from last year.
Now it says expires this Sept. 🙁
They added an Arabic/middle eastern section to the menu and basically doubled the menu size.
The Asian dish, Singapore noodles, was removed.
Waiter said bigger Arabic clientele now
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:21:33 AM
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I was going to visit the 3 Genting casinos North of 45 Kensington but didn't get a chance
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:32:39 AM
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Piccadilly area:
Walk a straight line and you will see Horizon casino, Empire casino, Little Macau, and Grosvenor Piccadilly in that order
1+2) Horizon (Red Umbrellas) + Empire
located Side by side. Neither required passport.
Horizon is small with 6 slots I recognize.
Both casinos have the slots i recognize set to 92.5% rtp.
For the Fruit games and others i don't recognize, it's 90% except for one in Empire,
Standard:
90% rtp
'Book of Ra PLUS' is 94% at Empire, located on bottom floor
I'm assuming everyone of this game is the same Rtp and not a mis-config.
Lost 80x bet playing the 94% machine.
It played more like a 85% machine. 2 bonuses didn't return much
Walk a straight line and you will see Horizon casino, Empire casino, Little Macau, and Grosvenor Piccadilly in that order
1+2) Horizon (Red Umbrellas) + Empire
located Side by side. Neither required passport.
Horizon is small with 6 slots I recognize.
Both casinos have the slots i recognize set to 92.5% rtp.
For the Fruit games and others i don't recognize, it's 90% except for one in Empire,
Standard:
90% rtp
'Book of Ra PLUS' is 94% at Empire, located on bottom floor
I'm assuming everyone of this game is the same Rtp and not a mis-config.
Lost 80x bet playing the 94% machine.
It played more like a 85% machine. 2 bonuses didn't return much
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:37:52 AM
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3) Little Macau
Did not go inside
Did not go inside
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:45:26 AM
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4) Grosvenor Piccadilly
All 8 slots that i recognize were set to 94%.
Rest were 90%
Including Book of Ra PLUS
I would have figured if this casino chain has the highest RTP for USA slots then non-USA games would also be set as high.
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All 8 slots that i recognize were set to 94%.
Rest were 90%
Including Book of Ra PLUS
I would have figured if this casino chain has the highest RTP for USA slots then non-USA games would also be set as high.
Nope
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July 11th, 2025 at 9:55:02 AM
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Hippodrome casino
Huge building but only a couple dozen slots. There's another casino in the basement
5 floors + Rooftop bar
4th floor and Rooftop bar were closed when i was there
Lola's
Lola's was closed for remodelling but the Chinese restaurant was still operating (opens 6pm)
Huge building but only a couple dozen slots. There's another casino in the basement
5 floors + Rooftop bar
4th floor and Rooftop bar were closed when i was there
Lola's
Lola's was closed for remodelling but the Chinese restaurant was still operating (opens 6pm)
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July 12th, 2025 at 3:18:39 PM
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Grosvenor casinos in London:
Blue dot = 45 Kensington casino (45% off restaurant Tues-Thurs, Genting owned)
I've been to 3: Piccadilly (reviewed above), Park Tower, Gloucester
1) Park Tower
6 Machines i recognized, all 94%
2) Gloucester
~10 machines i recognized, all 94%
Incidentally, i don't recognize any machine in the slots only area.
Book of Ra is 90% RTP (forgot which version).
But the table games area (go through a different door after passport check) also has slots.
The same Book of Ra is 92% but that 4 bank is empty while the slots only area is full.
Blue dot = 45 Kensington casino (45% off restaurant Tues-Thurs, Genting owned)
I've been to 3: Piccadilly (reviewed above), Park Tower, Gloucester
1) Park Tower
6 Machines i recognized, all 94%
2) Gloucester
~10 machines i recognized, all 94%
Incidentally, i don't recognize any machine in the slots only area.
Book of Ra is 90% RTP (forgot which version).
But the table games area (go through a different door after passport check) also has slots.
The same Book of Ra is 92% but that 4 bank is empty while the slots only area is full.
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
July 13th, 2025 at 8:45:37 AM
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Based on your reporting, it looks like all of these casinos are quite small in comparison to what we have in the USA. Casinos that have table games, is the patronage more busy than the slot areas? Which table game is the busiest, and is craps offered and frequented?
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July 13th, 2025 at 9:02:09 AM
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Most casinos are only allowed a maximum of 20 slot machines. When they updated the Gaming Act, there was some talk of larger casinos being allowed, hoping there could be a Las Vegas, perhaps Blackpool, somewhere; but I don't think the idea caught on.
I haven't been in a London one for a long time but there used to be Craps in the Hippodrome and Victoria. Out of town it has been dying out, so I don't know whether it can be found anymore.
edit : some casinos have two adjacent casino licences, so sometimes you'll find a bank of 20 slots in one area and the main casino, with its 20, in another. In theory they have seperate entrances but may share a lobby area. Manchester has one of these, and I suspect Victoria does as well.
I haven't been in a London one for a long time but there used to be Craps in the Hippodrome and Victoria. Out of town it has been dying out, so I don't know whether it can be found anymore.
edit : some casinos have two adjacent casino licences, so sometimes you'll find a bank of 20 slots in one area and the main casino, with its 20, in another. In theory they have seperate entrances but may share a lobby area. Manchester has one of these, and I suspect Victoria does as well.
July 13th, 2025 at 9:10:48 AM
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I haven't been in a London one for a long time but there used to be Craps in the Hippodrome and Victoria. Out of town it has been dying out, so I don't know whether it can be found anymore.
Victoria removed their Craps table in january 2020, Hippodrome in 2022.
I belive it is only 2 craps tables left in Europe, one in Monaco and one in Czech Republic.
July 13th, 2025 at 9:35:36 AM
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Quote: TorghattenQuote: charliepatrick
I haven't been in a London one for a long time but there used to be Craps in the Hippodrome and Victoria. Out of town it has been dying out, so I don't know whether it can be found anymore.
Victoria removed their Craps table in january 2020, Hippodrome in 2022.
I belive it is only 2 craps tables left in Europe, one in Monaco and one in Czech Republic.
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Based on your reporting, it sounds like casino owners do not want the expense of providing craps live action, or there is just no interest in the game. Would either of you speculate that if Bubble Craps machines were to be installed, that that game might grow in popularity??
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July 13th, 2025 at 10:27:21 AM
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I don't think the average punter understands Craps. I am guessing casinos got rid of it because of the staff costs and, for smaller casinos, the risks the game could have if they had a hot shooter and points were being pressed. There used to be bubble Craps in the Hippodrome (US Odds), but I think most people play Roulette at those types of machines - it's bigger in the UK due to the single zero.
July 13th, 2025 at 10:43:13 AM
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- Its low interest/understanding.
- Likely staff costs as mentioned.
- People generally do smaller bets = harder to defend the use of 3 dealers.
- The craps players i have observed often sit out when they dont have the dice.
- Likely staff costs as mentioned.
- People generally do smaller bets = harder to defend the use of 3 dealers.
- The craps players i have observed often sit out when they dont have the dice.
July 13th, 2025 at 12:31:05 PM
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Thank you both. Such a shame in that for me the game is beatable as long as one does not buy into the "establishment's game." Imagine a game where a player can play on both sides simultaneously, bring down their bets (some bets), actually have an advantage over the house, and not be one and done with each hand. Oh, well, I guess the foreign approach to gambling must be simple, you know, not complicated like roulette.
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