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March 2nd, 2020 at 7:32:56 AM permalink
Florida just declared a statewide health emergency following two confirmed infections. One was in Hillsborough County, where the large Seminole Hard Rock Casino mixes a lot of people 24x7. The second Florida Covid-19 case is from the county just south of Hillsborough County.

If the real incubation period is 14 days (could be longer), I wonder how many confirmed infections will appear in Florida during that timeframe. The statistical epidemiology fascinates me. (I decided it would be "less than proper" to do a poll.)

Florida mobilized statewide when it prepared for the Year 2000 Problem. In 2004 and 2005, when Florida was pummeled by five major hurricanes, the state used the Y2K statewide mobilization plan as a springboard for hurricane remediation efforts. Those who engineered the Y2K success were used as resources to help identify and avoid problems from a few years earlier.

Unfortunately -- both for Tampa's casino patrons and public -- I see no such coordination effort today. Instead, state government requires local county health professionals -- who often respond to reporters' questions in their regular work -- now to get prior approval from Tallahassee before replying. This does not instill public confidence. Stay tuned...
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March 2nd, 2020 at 9:47:15 AM permalink
Practically right down the street from me, we are assuming the case reported at Doctors Hospital, Sarasota, last night. The solution is to hit the road and head to Biloxi for a few nights. Be there tonight!
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March 2nd, 2020 at 10:07:20 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

The solution is to hit the road and head to Biloxi for a few nights. Be there tonight!

Good luck, but the cases you are fleeing are still presumptive, not confirmed. Remember to take "wet-naps" with you so that chips, door handles and chips don't spread. DRY hands spread fewer germs than wet ones.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 10:37:44 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Practically right down the street from me, we are assuming the case reported at Doctors Hospital, Sarasota, last night. The solution is to hit the road and head to Biloxi for a few nights. Be there tonight!



I suspect that is precisely how it's spreading

I'm sure the folks in Biloxi will welcome you with open arms once they hear you live one block from the latest outbreak
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:01:15 AM permalink
I have been told that there has not yet been a single COVID-19 fatality anywhere in the world of a child under the age of 9. Most fatalities have been older patients who had some other underlying disease/medical condition that weakened them.

Having said that, I have been guilty of assuming that this virus would not penetrate America very much, and this this was a disease that was occurring far away. But.......Holy $%@#, I believe I might have been wrong.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:10:23 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I have been told that there has not yet been a single COVID-19 fatality anywhere in the world of a child under the age of 9. Most fatalities have been older patients who had some other underlying disease/medical condition that weakened them.



Shhh.. They're dropping in the streets,
we're all doomed. You have the wrong
narrative.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:12:25 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I have been told that there has not yet been a single COVID-19 fatality anywhere in the world of a child under the age of 9. Most fatalities have been older patients who had some other underlying disease/medical condition that weakened them.

Having said that, I have been guilty of assuming that this virus would not penetrate America very much, and this this was a disease that was occurring far away. But.......Holy $%@#, I believe I might have been wrong.


only two percent die and most cases are mild which is why it spreads.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:23:34 AM permalink
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only two percent die and most cases are mild which is why it spreads.

Yetif the buffet line is long, just mention to people ahead of you that the lines were much shorter when you were in China last week. I have an idea tat will speed you thru buffet lines and checkin lines.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:26:06 AM permalink
Really, it's only two percent. No big deal. Most of them will be old, anyway.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 12:13:13 PM permalink
If you're not elderly and don't have an underlying medical condition, the fatality rate drops to something like less than half a percent.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 12:16:43 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Shhh.. They're dropping in the streets,
we're all doomed. You have the wrong
narrative.



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March 2nd, 2020 at 12:31:36 PM permalink
Only the elderly and health risk factors sounds reassuring

Until you realize you fall into those categories

2% of America's population isn't that bad (SMH).

2% of 360 million is miniscule

There are a few comments I could make about a group of mostly elderly white men this might help clean house but I don't want to break any WOV RULES
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March 2nd, 2020 at 2:53:24 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Only the elderly and health risk factors sounds reassuring

Until you realize you fall into those categories

2% of America's population isn't that bad (SMH).

2% of 360 million is miniscule

There are a few comments I could make about a group of mostly elderly white men this might help clean house but I don't want to break any WOV RULES



Yeah, everyone wants it to kill all the people who pissed them off over the internet.

The reality is going to be that it isn’t going to care who it kills.

2% is 100x more than the H1N1 flu, which was .02%. H1N1 killed an estimated 250,000 worldwide in 2009. (About 12000 in the US.)
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March 2nd, 2020 at 3:09:19 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Yeah, everyone wants it to kill all the people who pissed them off over the internet.

The reality is going to be that it isn’t going to care who it kills.

2% is 100x more than the H1N1 flu, which was .02%. H1N1 killed an estimated 250,000 worldwide in 2009. (About 12000 in the US.)



I don't want it to kill anybody
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March 2nd, 2020 at 3:16:15 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I don't want it to kill anybody



I know not really.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 3:46:46 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Practically right down the street from me, we are assuming the case reported at Doctors Hospital, Sarasota, last night. The solution is to hit the road and head to Biloxi for a few nights. Be there tonight!



Well within 10 miles as the crow flies, sorry oh dark one
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March 2nd, 2020 at 3:46:46 PM permalink
Biloxi is being very kind.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 3:57:07 PM permalink
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I don't want it to kill anybody



I do, the more it kills the more interesting the story and the more interesting watching the news becomes. I just want to be entertained at almost any cost.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 4:06:36 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Well within 10 miles as the crow flies, sorry oh dark one



Ah, the difference between NY speak and the rest of the country

We don't drive for the most part so when we say down the street we usually are pretty literal.

I remember my first visit to California on a business trip. I confirmed with the concierge there was a Kinko's a minute away

Man I was walking for ten minutes before I turned back. At the hotel I said to the concierge I thought Kinkos was a minute away. He said, "like it is, only three miles down the road"
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March 2nd, 2020 at 4:44:01 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Biloxi is being very kind.

Dice?
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March 2nd, 2020 at 5:19:50 PM permalink
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I don't want it to kill anybody



Me neither. But if anyone wants to make me your life insurance beneficiary, I'm available.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 6:17:05 PM permalink
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Me neither. But if anyone wants to make me your life insurance beneficiary, I'm available.



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March 2nd, 2020 at 7:20:21 PM permalink
Two percent is a lot, especially if it's 2 percent this wave, 2% next year if it mutates. I don't want it to kill anyone, and I don't want to lose anyone important to me, and I don't want to die because I'm important to other people. Things like this really shows how weak our government really is. I'm not sure I believe this story being posted about how it kills old and sickly, I don't think it's true at all.
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March 2nd, 2020 at 11:42:24 PM permalink
It feels like every year or two there's a big scare from a new virus, whether it be Bird Flu, Swine Flu or Beer Virus. I know it can be easy to get swept up in the hysteria, but it's less deadly than influenza. You do wonder when we'll encounter a virus that we won't have time to adapt to.
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March 3rd, 2020 at 12:49:59 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

It feels like every year or two there's a big scare from a new virus, whether it be Bird Flu, Swine Flu or Beer Virus. I know it can be easy to get swept up in the hysteria, but it's less deadly than influenza. You do wonder when we'll encounter a virus that we won't have time to adapt to.

currently it is 25-50 times more deadly than flu based on death %. Don’t go by totals.
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March 3rd, 2020 at 3:44:07 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

It feels like every year or two there's a big scare from a new virus, whether it be Bird Flu, Swine Flu or Beer Virus. I know it can be easy to get swept up in the hysteria, ....

People have to justify their salaries and new hires somehow. Anyone here think the next heath dept budget will be scrutinized?
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March 4th, 2020 at 10:24:52 PM permalink
Here's an amazing factoid:

The sales of Corona beer have plummeted to the lowest in decades!
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March 4th, 2020 at 11:35:30 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Here's an amazing factoid:

The sales of Corona beer have plummeted to the lowest in decades!



I feel bad for Corona beer over this. They already have it bad enough with the current seltzer craze, and now people buying even less of it because of the word Corona...
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March 5th, 2020 at 9:40:37 AM permalink
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I feel bad for Corona beer over this. They already have it bad enough with the current seltzer craze, and now people buying even less of it because of the word Corona...



Are you willing to go to an extreme and only drink Corona beer as your only alcholic beverage until this passes? That would support them.
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March 5th, 2020 at 10:20:36 AM permalink
Looks like Google has blocked Coronavirus themed products. I found a bunch last week.
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March 5th, 2020 at 10:29:07 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Here's an amazing factoid:

The sales of Corona beer have plummeted to the lowest in decades!



Imagine if it was called the Amazon Virus.

Online shopping would plummet.
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March 5th, 2020 at 11:01:19 AM permalink
Here in Maryland face mask are sold out. Are there shortages where you live?
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March 5th, 2020 at 11:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Two percent is a lot, especially if it's 2 percent this wave, 2% next year if it mutates. I don't want it to kill anyone, and I don't want to lose anyone important to me, and I don't want to die because I'm important to other people. Things like this really shows how weak our government really is. I'm not sure I believe this story being posted about how it kills old and sickly, I don't think it's true at all.



Not to minimize the effect this is having, but I'm sure the death rate on those infected will be far less than 1%. Remember, there will be many victims who seek no medical attention, and just be sick for a while and then get better. They will not be included in the 'non fatality' group. While pretty much everyone that does die will be included. And the 90 year old metastatic cancer patient barely hanging on will be listed as a coronavirus death if infected even if he was about to die from the cancer.

I see nothing wrong with the government's response. What would you want it to do? Ban travelers from Iran? China?
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March 5th, 2020 at 12:35:31 PM permalink
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I feel bad for Corona beer over this. They already have it bad enough with the current seltzer craze, and now people buying even less of it because of the word Corona...


To be fair they make horrible beer.
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March 5th, 2020 at 1:02:57 PM permalink
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To be fair they make horrible beer.

So what? Like any product, it advertising that melds sales, not product quality.
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March 5th, 2020 at 1:03:02 PM permalink
Well over a thousand NY residents are now under voluntary quarantine. How many of them do you think have an emergency fund to sit it out?
I'd been playing with the idea of flying up to Seattle for Emerald Con. Changed my minds for other reasons, but now dealers and guests are bailing left and right. That's a fairly large economic hit, right there.
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March 5th, 2020 at 1:04:04 PM permalink
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To be fair they make horrible beer.



That's why you have to add some Lyme to it, makes it bearable!
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March 5th, 2020 at 1:46:24 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Not to minimize the effect this is having, but I'm sure the death rate on those infected will be far less than 1%. Remember, there will be many victims who seek no medical attention, and just be sick for a while and then get better. They will not be included in the 'non fatality' group. While pretty much everyone that does die will be included. And the 90 year old metastatic cancer patient barely hanging on will be listed as a coronavirus death if infected even if he was about to die from the cancer.

I see nothing wrong with the government's response. What would you want it to do? Ban travelers from Iran? China?



The Spanish flu killed 3.5 % worldwide. I have been looking at the %'s. It seems to be just as lethal, if not more.

Suseptible population has always been the very young and the very old. I don't expect my dad to make it, if he gets it.

A month ago, Someone claiming to be a biologist, said that he was informed that the incubation period is actually 3 weeks.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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March 5th, 2020 at 2:12:18 PM permalink
Avoid immigrants that smoke since they typically have poor hygiene and you'll be fine.
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March 5th, 2020 at 3:01:12 PM permalink
Quote: jjjoooggg

The Spanish flu killed 3.5 % worldwide. I have been looking at the %'s. It seems to be just as lethal, if not more.

Suseptible population has always been the very young and the very old. I don't expect my dad to make it, if he gets it.

A month ago, Someone claiming to be a biologist, said that he was informed the incubation period is actually 3 weeks.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6




My wife has a terrible auto-immune disease which has been in remission for about 6 months now; she takes an oral chemotherapy drug every day that weakens and suppresses her immune system. If she catches the coronavirus, she will be at considerable risk. And since I am the only one who lives with her and I am the one that takes care of her, that means that I must NOT catch the coronavirus. No kidding, guys.

I live in Tenn, and so far only one confirmed case, in Nashville, over 130 miles away. But I am concerned and trying to educate myself and prepare. I'd welcome any advice.
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March 5th, 2020 at 3:08:01 PM permalink
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That's why you have to add some Lyme to it, makes it bearable!


Literally the only way I’ve ever been able to drink that terrible beer.
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March 5th, 2020 at 6:40:31 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

My wife has a terrible auto-immune disease which has been in remission for about 6 months now; she takes an oral chemotherapy drug every day that weakens and suppresses her immune system. If she catches the coronavirus, she will be at considerable risk. And since I am the only one who lives with her and I am the one that takes care of her, that means that I must NOT catch the coronavirus. No kidding, guys.

I live in Tenn, and so far only one confirmed case, in Nashville, over 130 miles away. But I am concerned and trying to educate myself and prepare. I'd welcome any advice.





If you get the right kind of mask, and make it fit well, she really would be safe from breathing the virus in while in crowds. And you replace it as recommended.

Wearing all the recommended gear is the only full protection though. Even then, it has to be removed correctly to keep from contamination from the virus since you can still pick it up from surfaces.
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March 5th, 2020 at 7:15:40 PM permalink
Although this is a really ridiculous suggestion, as far as surfaces around the home, and because it is really easy to forget and touch your face, I'd suggest making your own clear plastic cone collar. Doesn't have be big, but just enough to interfere and keep your hands from your face.

Hey, no one's around. Silly, but it should work.
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March 5th, 2020 at 8:32:49 PM permalink
This might not work. Since i get close to a cat that rolls on the floor. If i feel a sore throat about to begin. I swish a gulp of whiskey. Or use listerine. If i already have a sore throat. it only numbs the throat pain.

I also switched to dial bacteria soap.

My bookkeeper sprays lysol everyday.

I rarely got sick when i used to exercise.
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March 5th, 2020 at 9:29:10 PM permalink
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March 6th, 2020 at 12:50:55 AM permalink
So there's a case in Nevada now. I've been thinking to stay away from the casino I sure could have. Is probably an advantage to be one of the first sick people so I'm not going to worry about it.

After person that I realized I might be it many many casinos in a day different states, at this time but that was going to be really bad. Sure there are truck drivers out of bed bugs 14 different states and 20 different gas stations restaurants Etc
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March 6th, 2020 at 3:35:32 AM permalink
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That's why you have to add some Lyme to it, makes it bearable!

Limes. Lyme and Old Lyme were New England towns with an abundance of tick bites that spread disease to humans.
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March 6th, 2020 at 6:40:59 AM permalink
Poker tables will close before the blackjack tables because players hold the cards in poker. But people getting infected from casino chips will shut the place down.
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March 6th, 2020 at 7:18:18 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

So there's a case in Nevada now. I've been thinking to stay away from the casino I sure could have. Is probably an advantage to be one of the first sick people so I'm not going to worry about it.

After person that I realized I might be it many many casinos in a day different states, at this time but that was going to be really bad. Sure there are truck drivers out of bed bugs 14 different states and 20 different gas stations restaurants Etc



onenickelmiracle,

I guess my secret decoder ring is on the fritz... Would you kindly translate your post into English?

Thanks!

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March 6th, 2020 at 7:36:57 AM permalink
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onenickelmiracle,

I guess my secret decoder ring is on the fritz... Would you kindly translate your post into English?

Thanks!

Dog Hand


Voice to text error. I cannot translate it till I get to it sacred and secure location.

Just basically came to the realization that pretty much everyone on the plane is going to get there to see him never staying home.
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