Current FL Developments
The odds have increased for a legislative compromise to update Florida’s gaming laws, one that would guarantee the state more money from the Seminole Tribe in exchange for adding craps and roulette to their casinos
The tribe's new leverage: a court order allows it to stop about $250 million in payments to the state if a dispute remains over “designated player games” operated by card rooms, and a “no casinos” constitutional amendment is before voters in November that could strip lawmakers of any ability to expand gambling without voter approval.
But two significant hurdles stand in the way of an easy resolution.
Number one: Jeff Soffer, owner of the Fontainebleau Resort in Miami Beach, has launched an aggressive new push to transfer the casino license from Mardi Gras Casino and Racetrack in Hallandale Beach to another site in Miami Beach ... the brother of House Speaker Richard Corcoran, as one of his lead lobbyists.
Number two:The dynamics have changed this year with Senate President Joe Negron, R-Stuart, and many leaders from both parties wanting to support the eight counties where voters have approved bringing slot machines to their pari-mutuels. The Florida Supreme Court ruled they are not authorized to install the games without legislative approval.
The Senate approved the latest offer to allow craps and roulette $400 million in annual payments to the state — up from about $250 million now.
Senate bill would also allow horse and dog tracks that have been conducting live events to “decouple” and no longer operate the live events as a condition of their pari-mutuel permits. Casinos in Miami-Dade and Broward counties would have the tax rate reduced to 30 percent in 2018, and to 25 percent in 2019. Horse tracks that stop racing would have to make payments to the thoroughbred industry. The measure would also legalize the designated-player games used in some pari-mutual card rooms, which the tribe opposes, and clarify that certain fantasy sports contests are legal in Florida
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article199619024.html#storylink=cpy
Anyone want to do an analysis of the Florida Lottery offerings.
Are there any decent bangs for the buck?
Or is one in fifty million pretty much the same as one in sixty million?
Tampa, miami, Jacksonville Orlando all having multiple casinos like atlantic city.
Dont be fooled with disneys anti casino stance. They will have a casino if it passes
As it is now comps expire after 90 days, and casino's do not care much for the players
Quote: FleaStiffI mean we are all gamblers here and we look to the percentages involved. I forget when it is 50 whether you double or half the number to get it on the basis of 100 but whether it is 2 percent or 0.5 percent, it sure is an extreme result and that is why I was suspicious of one death versus eight people who only shivered in the cold but were fine when they got a blanket and some hot coffee.
50 passengers, 8 taken to hospital for hypothermia not smoke inhalation, no specialists called, no one admitted to the hospital, all 8 released from the ER fairly promptly. Then one of the 50 shows up hours later and winds up kicking the bucket while awaiting an ambulance and some paperwork.
It was JDLR on the math. And it was JDLR on the causation. I've seen firemen that had to be dragged out by two fellow firefighters and dragged to a respirator. Smoke inhalation problems set in right away they don't set in hours later and get worse slowly. Someone in her forties doesn't die from a smoky fire while all those retirees in their sixties live through it.
It appears that the county coroner has determined that it was smoke inhalation. Verdict: Death by accident. Angioedema, morbid obesity. Pharyangial edema. Coroner appears not to have addressed possibility of marine toxins or why her primary complaint upon arriving at the hospital was pain on the soles of her feet.
Total fund to be shared by all boat victims is under ten thousand since casino company forced all claims into Admiralty Law proceedings rather than Tort Law.
Didn't know that when they hopped on board, eh? Do cruise ships pull that stunt too?Quote: FleaStiffTotal fund to be shared by all boat victims is under ten thousand since casino company forced all claims into Admiralty Law proceedings rather than Tort Law.
Cruise ships generally force you go thru arbitration first and after you've paid for that any lawsuit has to be in a court in Florida which means you have to trek to Florida and hire a Florida attorney. Cruise lines then delay and postpone .... and have often transferred any involved employees or witnesses to different vessels sailing out of foreign ports. And of course even if you win,,, they always appeal.Quote: odiousgambitDidn't know that when they hopped on board, eh? Do cruise ships pull that stunt too?
And if you win in court but it is even one dollar less than the arbitration award, you have to pay ALL the cruise lines attorney fees.
No one beats those cruise lines... not ever.
I think its in the Orlando Sentinel or something.
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It occurs to me that this is perhaps poetic justice for gamblers.
Gamblers who take shots, exploit razor thin edges, look for flashing dealers, learn of a quarterback's broken leg and try to get their bets down before their bookie hears about it.. simply get the same thing done to them. Fifty people on the boat? Okay, all fifty and their lawyers have to divide up just under ten grand anyway they decide to because the boat was fifty feet from shore.
Now there is a real sweat the money joint.
Well, I was in the grocery store and saw the 350 MM neon sign for Megabucks. Didn't sprig for the two dollars though. So I just found out there were no winners and the prize is now 375 MM.Quote: FleaStiffThis forum has a significant Florida contingent ...
Anyone want to do an analysis of the Florida Lottery offerings.
Are there any decent bangs for the buck?
Or is one in fifty million pretty much the same as one in sixty million?
Did I save two dollars
Was it a two dollar 'win'.
Is that 'extra' 25MM even relevant? After all, its still something like one in fifty million no matter what the prize amount is.
Probably going to buy a ticket soon though.
Quote: FleaStiffWell, I was in the grocery store and saw the 350 MM neon sign for Megabucks. Didn't sprig for the two dollars though. So I just found out there were no winners and the prize is now 375 MM.
Did I save two dollars
Was it a two dollar 'win'.
Is that 'extra' 25MM even relevant? After all, its still something like one in fifty million no matter what the prize amount is.
Probably going to buy a ticket soon though.
Or would that $2 been the winning ticket and you lost 350 million?
Not considered good timing after the very recent Jacksonville incident of a gamer's convention shooting.
Five car fire. Two cars destroyed. Three nearby cars: heat damage.
No indication of employee or passenger's cars.
Is this labor strife? Coincidence?
Quote: FleaStiffVictory Gambling Ship in Port Canaveral, Florida.
Five car fire. Two cars destroyed. Three nearby cars: heat damage.
No indication of employee or passenger's cars.
Is this labor strife? Coincidence?
Sounds like they need to hire a security guard for their customer parking. Or fire the one sleeping.
Florida news station reporting lawyers meeting with claimants. Usual allegations of low balling.
Unexplained is why there are any such meetings at all if the claims were all moved to Admiralty court long ago and a miniscule cap placed on all recoveries.
