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darkoz
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February 2nd, 2022 at 2:29:40 PM permalink
This is a convoluted story that will take up more than one post and require some degree of time jumping for it to all make sense so fair warning.

June of 2019

I was taking Freeplay on about ten different players cards at the Golden Nugget in Atlantic City when I was caught.

A female security guard snatched the current card I had in the slot machine and simultaneously I was surrounded by about four guards and a supervisor.

Female security guard reads out the obviously female name on the player's card and asks me who that person is. "I know this isn't your name"

"It's my girlfriend card".

Security guards all laugh and give the sarcastic"yeah, right".

And in case you are wondering, I would have said the card belonged to my girlfriend regardless HOWEVER just by chance, it happened that I was indeed in a relationship with that person.

I cashed out the nearly thousand dollars voucher in the machine and then notified them I would be leaving the casino if they so wished

Only they didn't wish me to leave. They notified me I was being detained and had to come to the back room with them.

I informed them I had committed no crime and was free to leave per my rights but they said that was not an option.

Either I waited in the backroom for the DGA (Division of Gaming Enforcement) to arrive or I could do it on the gaming floor.

I said I would wait on the gaming floor

They attempted the psychological trick. "Do you really want to be seen taken out of here in handcuffs in front of all these casino goer's? Why don't you save yourself the embarrassment and come upstairs with us "

I replied, "I don't give a rats ass what these people I don't know or could care less about think. I'm not going willingly to any detainment room."

And so we waited on the gaming floor

Two guards stood nearby to make certain I didn't leave.

I took the time to contact my daughter so she was aware of the situation. Then I contacted my attorney.

My attorney said if I had done nothing illegal just leave but be prepared for something to go down. It was my choice.

So, I took a deep breath and decided to leave.

I stood up and walked right past the guards who, surprised by my sudden movement, wanted to know where I was going

I notified them I was leaving.

Suddenly I was grabbed in an arm lock, one security guard on each side. The female guard wasn't applying too much pressure but the other very large male guard put enough pressure on that I knew it would take little to snap the elbow.

I quickly went limp in my arms and made little movement so as not to provoke a beating. And they pretty much led me to an elevator, up to their backroom and placed me in a cell all the while keeping me in the double arm lock.

Once inside the supervisor asked me to hand over all the players cards in my possession. He read off a handful of names to prove he knew everything about the situation but of course he missed a few names.

I handed all the cards over anyway. I knew they would be useless at this point. All the offers would be revoked soon enough.

He looked at the cards and recognized I had more than he expected. "Thanks for being cooperative and handing them all to me. I sincerely mean that. Nonetheless, we are detaining you for theft and trespassing"

"I haven't stolen anything. I am using those cards with permission of the players which I have been repeating for the last hour and trespassing? I have never been trespassed from this property."

To which the supervisor replied, "Oh, yes, you have and we have the evidence to prove it."

And of course I knew what evidence he referred to...

...And he was wrong. I was never trespassed from the Golden Nugget.

But that's going to require going back in time so for now, just remember where we are at, stuck in the Golden Nugget awaiting DGA officers to arrive...

To be continued
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February 2nd, 2022 at 5:42:34 PM permalink
I'm looking forward to the rest of this. I was also detained at GN and they used the trespassing even though I was never trespassed excuse. They will never be held accountable for lying by the authorities so I hope you held them accountable.
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February 2nd, 2022 at 7:26:02 PM permalink
Quote: randomperson

I'm looking forward to the rest of this. I was also detained at GN and they used the trespassing even though I was never trespassed excuse. They will never be held accountable for lying by the authorities so I hope you held them accountable.
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i have the opposite issue they cant keep me out of the back room or the casino in general
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February 2nd, 2022 at 7:48:46 PM permalink
Is the epic road trip in search of pinball games done?
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February 2nd, 2022 at 8:07:57 PM permalink
Thank you for part 1! I am already looking forward to the second chapter.
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February 2nd, 2022 at 8:10:17 PM permalink
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Is the epic road trip in search of pinball games done?
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No. That's ongoing too.

I just wanted a gambling story to tell besides the non-gambling pinball road trip
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darkoz
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February 2nd, 2022 at 8:10:45 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thank you for part 1! I am already looking forward to the second chapter.
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Thanks, appreciated.
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February 3rd, 2022 at 6:07:51 AM permalink
This certainly sounds familiar (the trespass). I know you have a big operation, but I don't think I'd ever be carrying that many on me at once, even if I had a big operation. Were you playing all of them off that visit?

My AC trespass is at a different property and that's the one where the dude dropped the term, 'Wire fraud,' and claimed you had to have an ID to even be in the casino---because I originally tried to leave without giving them ID. They basically swarmed me on the floor, but I went ahead and went with them after the first time they told me I couldn't leave the property...I was pretty mouthy, kind of hoped I could goad one of them into hitting me, but it didn't happen.

"Okay, we're going to take a picture of you now."

"Okay. Is this for your mom to remember me by? Do you think she likes me better with my hat on or off?"

Anyway, I only had two cards on me...and one of them was mine!

NOTES: This would have been in late 2019, I want to say October or November. I obviously can't prove that I said what I said, but if requested, I can probably privately prove to an Admin that I am indeed trespassed at a casino in Atlantic City.
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February 3rd, 2022 at 7:02:08 AM permalink
Excellent thread. Looking forward to this.
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February 3rd, 2022 at 7:22:43 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

This certainly sounds familiar (the trespass). I know you have a big operation, but I don't think I'd ever be carrying that many on me at once, even if I had a big operation. Were you playing all of them off that visit?

My AC trespass is at a different property and that's the one where the dude dropped the term, 'Wire fraud,' and claimed you had to have an ID to even be in the casino---because I originally tried to leave without giving them ID. They basically swarmed me on the floor, but I went ahead and went with them after the first time they told me I couldn't leave the property...I was pretty mouthy, kind of hoped I could goad one of them into hitting me, but it didn't happen.

"Okay, we're going to take a picture of you now."

"Okay. Is this for your mom to remember me by? Do you think she likes me better with my hat on or off?"

Anyway, I only had two cards on me...and one of them was mine!

NOTES: This would have been in late 2019, I want to say October or November. I obviously can't prove that I said what I said, but if requested, I can probably privately prove to an Admin that I am indeed trespassed at a casino in Atlantic City.
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As you noted whether you get caught with just two or two hundred, you get the same treatment.

So what does it matter?

Hit em and hit em hard so at least the backroom and your traveling is worth it

To Unjon, thanks. There are going to be a few surprises in this "AP trip report".
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