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December 16th, 2015 at 7:01:48 AM permalink
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Straub and Blatstein working with the the best Mayor AC has ever had, Don Guardian, can turn this around
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December 16th, 2015 at 11:55:16 AM permalink
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Straub and Blatstein working with the the best Mayor AC has ever had, Don Guardian, can turn this around



Nope
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December 16th, 2015 at 12:10:13 PM permalink
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Straub and Blatstein working with the the best Mayor AC has ever had, Don Guardian, can turn this around



It depends on who you asked. I'm 100% sure that if this question is posed to Trump, an arrogant & outlandish answer from him is an absolute yes, despite his record of MULTIPLE BANKRUPTCIES ...

And if you ask him a follow up question of how he will turn AC around, he will then give you this arrogant & outlandish response: "Trust me!"
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December 16th, 2015 at 12:10:46 PM permalink
I don't want it to be saved in the definition of what the owners think. I want it to maintain a similar course as it is right now. Currently I have a reservation for Caesars luxury ocean facing room for late July. 4 nights comped with a year tier score of 459. If they get "saved" then there is no way in hell I can get a free beach vacation in the summer with almost no play.
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December 16th, 2015 at 1:35:12 PM permalink
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Straub and Blatstein working with the the best Mayor AC has ever had, Don Guardian, can turn this around



Problem is much bigger than the casino itself. So no.

The issue is the whole city of Atlantic City itself. Clean the whole city up, have a viable international airport and turn it into an international destination. Yet AC has totally neglected every step of the way. So many layers of problems where the only way to solve this is where the state has to step in. Which looks like it is not going to do since NJ is going to hold a referendum come Nov. 2016 to allow casinos on its northern end.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-wynn-explains-why-atlantic-city-is-obsolete-2014-7
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December 16th, 2015 at 3:06:21 PM permalink
AC as it once was is dead. I bet they're near bottom though. I'm curious if Resorts and Trump can continue being in direct competition (don't know the marina side too well).

As noted, there are too many problems with the city. I walked from the Greyhound station to Trump Taj along Atlantic in broad daylight... and still didn't feel comfortable enough to walk with my ear buds in. I say this as a big guy with a giant beard.
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December 16th, 2015 at 3:11:40 PM permalink
Sorry but I don't see anyone paying him 4 times what he paid to buy Revel.
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December 21st, 2015 at 2:50:09 PM permalink
http://news.yahoo.com/money-cant-buy-love-yet-atlantic-city-casino-150919626.html

Interesting read......
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December 21st, 2015 at 3:26:48 PM permalink
Call a spade a spade.

The problem is the ghetto adjacent to the boardwalk casinos.

They've had DECADES to clean it up, gentrify it, make it go away, and nada.

Get rid of the poor near the casinos; build a good airport; put in a world class amusement park (Star Wars themed?) and voila, AC is back.

Otherwise, continued decline until the Jersey Devil gnaws on its corpse.
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December 21st, 2015 at 4:07:38 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Call a spade a spade.

The problem is the ghetto adjacent to the boardwalk casinos.

They've had DECADES to clean it up, gentrify it, make it go away, and nada.

Get rid of the blacka / poor near the casinos; build a good airport; put in a world class amusement park (Star Wars themed?) and voila, AC is back.

Otherwise, continued decline until the Jersey Devil gnaws on its corpse.



How would you gentrify AC? Southern Jersey is a pretty nice place, who in their right mind would move into AC? It isn't closer to their jobs (despite the dealers that remain), it isn't some bustling city, and you have to pay a frickin' toll to arrive/leave. Even if you clean it up (people and area in general), I see no way it would/could gentrify.

I've said many times, the fact that I can't jump on a plane from any of the DC airports (esp ultra low cost BWI) to ACY is crazy.
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December 21st, 2015 at 4:23:24 PM permalink
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How would you gentrify AC?.



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December 21st, 2015 at 4:24:04 PM permalink
Compare AC to Las Vegas.

Many people move to Las Vegas to retire, or have second homes / condos there.

Not so for AC: day trippers and motel guests only.

To gentrify: knock it down and rebuild it with condos, "little houses," modern bungalos: all with a shore theme.

Market to retirees, people who just want an affordable place near the shore close to the casinos.

Got to inprove the roads and the airport.

Make it look like the rest of the Jersey shore.
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December 21st, 2015 at 4:25:15 PM permalink
I have been saying the same thing for years. It seems so simple to fix and none of them seem to want to fix it. Put in a world class amusement park as said above. Put in a nice water park, possibly even an indoor one lime the ones in Ohio and PA. Great wolf or something like that. Get at least 2 nightly headline shows like cirque and a famous singer. Sure that all costs a ton of money but I really do believe those 3 things would be a huge start and would make a huge difference. Maybe I am completely wrong, who knows but it is evident that what they are currently doing is wrong as well.
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December 28th, 2015 at 6:31:32 PM permalink
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...To gentrify: knock it down and rebuild it with condos, "little houses," modern bungalos: all with a shore theme.



Unfortunately, the poverty activists would scream bloody murder if you even budgeted for commissioning a study to consider planning a move like this. Lots of entrenched power with money to be made on poverty - welfare scams, state and federal funding for all sorts of poverty assistance, section 8 housing, etc. Every locale has corruption, but NJ is near the top of the list.
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January 4th, 2016 at 3:49:26 PM permalink
I live here and it has never been so depressing. Grey and bleak with little or no building activity. Before you ask me "why don't I move" because I can't afford to with the value of my property dropping over 60%.

You think it has to rebound the State would not let AC die, but a lot of people are having doubts. What was it 2006?! the decline started, are we to wait another ten years for a revival?
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January 4th, 2016 at 6:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: Intheknow

I live here and it has never been so depressing. Grey and bleak with little or no building activity. Before you ask me "why don't I move" because I can't afford to with the value of my property dropping over 60%.

You think it has to rebound the State would not let AC die, but a lot of people are having doubts. What was it 2006?! the decline started, are we to wait another ten years for a revival?



TBH, and IMO only, to do it right, it will take 10 years for AC to recover. If it ever can, with all the regional gambling installs both available now and planned for the near future. They have to do 3 things.

Clean it up, especially around the casinos themselves.
Build some special attractions. (I'm still on the indoor waterpark bandwagon, among other possibilities.)
Offer the best games outside Vegas to draw the big money back and build a rep as the place to play. They have the zoning and the rules in place to do it, where all the neighboring states have tighter restrictions. They're being too short-sighted and greedy.
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January 4th, 2016 at 6:59:45 PM permalink
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Build some special attractions. (I'm still on the indoor waterpark bandwagon, among other possibilities.)



I thought a water park project was already approved (and renderings of the proposed final site / project were definitely published) for the old Atlantic Club site. Is that, like everything else, also going nowhere right now?
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January 5th, 2016 at 10:46:58 AM permalink
The Atlantic Club owners announced it's up for sale and they are not going to open a waterpark at the site. Crackheads and bums are starting to take over the area. At night, it's downright scary to be around this area of town.
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