NokTang
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April 29th, 2015 at 12:02:27 AM permalink
I thought, being bored and sick, I'd start a section about Cambodia and its borders.

I've written several reports about Nagaworld which is in the capital, Phnom Penh. This is a four star resort with high limits.

There are casino's is just about every border post, and some in a beach town about four hours south of Phnom Penh.(there are casino's at the borders with Laos and Myramar and Thailand as well)

The border casino's are as I say numerous but the largest is in "Poi Pet" which is the route/border tourists take to the famous temple ruins and to/from Bangkok. It caters to Thai gamblers for the most part. Play is in the Thai currency, Baht. (apx 33 to one USD)

In the northern part of Cambodia there are also casinos as well as on the border east of Phnom Penh, with Vietnam.

It's a real industry and any experiences with same would be greatly appreciated. Post them here. The "big boys" aren't here other than Genting(at Poi Pet) if they are big? No Wynn or Sands or anything American I'm aware of.

The largest obstacle is getting to the borders. There aren't flights. It's bus or car for the most part. There is some VISA hassle but nothing major. Hotel rooms are always reasonable, clean, and safe. Food is an issue if you expect anything other than "fills me up and I don't get sick". Drugs and prostitution while readily available isn't in your face so to speak. Rules in Baccarat are fair/normal, all roulette is single zero with normal payouts, black jack seems to be continuous shuffle with normal rules. As far as slot hold I have no idea and wouldn't encourage dedicated slot players to play at these casino's. I've not seen a sportsbook other than at Nagaworld in PNH.
Mikey75
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April 30th, 2015 at 4:02:36 AM permalink
Thanks for the report. I've been thinking about taking a trip to bangcok and traveling over to cambodia to gamble. Knowing that they have csms makes that less appealing.
ZenMasterFlash
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August 12th, 2015 at 11:27:06 AM permalink
My understanding is that casino cheating is rampant in Cambodia.
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NokTang
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August 13th, 2015 at 7:36:30 AM permalink
Quote: ZenMasterFlash

My understanding is that casino cheating is rampant in Cambodia.



Doubt any truth in that rumor. Some major corporations have invested and the industry has existed for decades. Never ever read of even any accusations.

I have personally witnessed casino cheating in Paraguay, S.A. and had some suspicions about a cruise to nowhere out of Florida but beyond that I think casino cheating accusations are bogus.
RoyalBJ
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August 13th, 2015 at 10:59:34 AM permalink
Nice report, thanks. Are these casinos owned by American companies, CZR, MGM, LVS or WYNN, or Malaysian Genting?
TwoFeathersATL
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August 13th, 2015 at 11:39:42 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Doubt any truth in that rumor. Some major corporations have invested and the industry has existed for decades. Never ever read of even any accusations.

I have personally witnessed casino cheating in Paraguay, S.A. and had some suspicions about a cruise to nowhere out of Florida but beyond that I think casino cheating accusations are bogus.


I was on that cruise to nowhere out of Florida.
I thought the cards were just tricky that night.
They cheated me?
Not nice, I may turn Pirate any minute, just to get back t even...
Aaaarrrhhhh!
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
Artemis
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August 13th, 2015 at 3:18:24 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Doubt any truth in that rumor. Some major corporations have invested and the industry has existed for decades. Never ever read of even any accusations.

I have personally witnessed casino cheating in Paraguay, S.A. and had some suspicions about a cruise to nowhere out of Florida but beyond that I think casino cheating accusations are bogus.




Never mind about casinos, but be aware of renegade dealers who are experts in the seconds dealing.

Watch the video, and see how easy it is to deal the 2nd card from a hand-held game.

I'm OK with Corps which pick and choose clienteles. Both insurance companies and casinos have the right to pick and choose customers. They may keep profitable ones and kicked out the rest. But, I'm not OK with a casino supervisor who says counting cards... is like stealing food from a buffet (a foodlifting offense), or video-taping a movie in a cinema (a piracy offense).
NokTang
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August 14th, 2015 at 2:13:39 AM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Nice report, thanks. Are these casinos owned by American companies, CZR, MGM, LVS or WYNN, or Malaysian Genting?



No, no American companies. Genting does have a property in Poi Pet, the border with Thailand which as I said is closest to Bangkok and the route to the famous temples in Cambodia which draw backpackers and tourists. Poi Pet however isn't a stopover, it's for Thai gamblers.

Another major corporation just bought "Star" Casino. I'll go look up the name now. It wasn't one of the American outfits we normally associate with gambling.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/aus-firm-buys-poipet-casino

MGM was going to move into Vietnam but backed out of the deal.

Las Vegas Sands is as you may well know, bidding on the Japan and Korea licenses. Their Singapore property is a huge success as are their Macau properties. They are also interested in Thailand if/when they open up(look for it when the new government is elected, if ever said even occurs). Wynn we never know. CZR is headed for bankruptcy I think/read?
NokTang
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August 14th, 2015 at 2:31:18 AM permalink
Quote: Artemis

Never mind about casinos, but be aware of renegade dealers who are experts in the seconds dealing.



Quite possible I suppose. Cards aren't looked at in Cambodia and the main game, Baccarat, is of course dealt out of a shoe like all others.

My reference to Florida cruises to nowhere involved suspicious landings on a craps table indicating a magnet under the felt but someone could always bet the don't pass. Well wait, that wouldn't work because it was a "bar twelve" game and twelves seem to come up a lot on the come out rolls.

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