version of baccarat (exploitable)
December 2nd, 2011 at 8:55:18 AM
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Hi there folks. I have come across this game being played at several card clubs around the city. It is referred to as Baccarat, and does have some similarities, however i was wondering if this game is exploitable in the long run. I will post as many details of the game below. I have found nothing online in regards to this game, although it is played all over the city, and also played at my partners house during chinese new years, so i know it is definitely popular with greeks, italians and chinese in my city.
1. there is a banker, and 2 (wings). meaning the banker is dealing himself a hand and also a hand to each of the 2 wing bettors. You can never bet on the banker, your decision is to bet on one of the two sides. each player is dealt 2 cards and has the option to take a third, although there are no rules set in stone as to when they must take a card. if a player opens with a 2 and remains to stay, then there is no rule forcing them to take another card.
Where I am looking for an edge is in being one of the outside bettors, i can bet any amount on either one of the wings, whenever i want.
another bonus is there is no commission or rake charged. unless you want to be the banker and take all the bets. then there is a fee per shoe, depending on the room, anywhere from $20 per shoe up to 5% of the value of the bank.
the game is being played with 2 deck shoes, so with 3 hands dealt per wager there is maybe 12-15 bets per shoe.
if there are any important details that would make a difference, please ask,
it seems like an exploitable game, and i have done reasonably well but believe there could be an edge here for a wise player
another feature of the game, is that ties just push, and that you can make a 3rd type of bet called in the middle. where technically you are betting on both of the wing hands. (eg. you bet $100 in the middle. Player 1 wins and Player 2 looses, you win $50 and lose $50 so break even. If the bank beats both player 1 and 2 you loose the $100 and if player 1 or 2 wins, and the other pushes, you win $50 and push $50 so have a $50 profit.
1. there is a banker, and 2 (wings). meaning the banker is dealing himself a hand and also a hand to each of the 2 wing bettors. You can never bet on the banker, your decision is to bet on one of the two sides. each player is dealt 2 cards and has the option to take a third, although there are no rules set in stone as to when they must take a card. if a player opens with a 2 and remains to stay, then there is no rule forcing them to take another card.
Where I am looking for an edge is in being one of the outside bettors, i can bet any amount on either one of the wings, whenever i want.
another bonus is there is no commission or rake charged. unless you want to be the banker and take all the bets. then there is a fee per shoe, depending on the room, anywhere from $20 per shoe up to 5% of the value of the bank.
the game is being played with 2 deck shoes, so with 3 hands dealt per wager there is maybe 12-15 bets per shoe.
if there are any important details that would make a difference, please ask,
it seems like an exploitable game, and i have done reasonably well but believe there could be an edge here for a wise player
another feature of the game, is that ties just push, and that you can make a 3rd type of bet called in the middle. where technically you are betting on both of the wing hands. (eg. you bet $100 in the middle. Player 1 wins and Player 2 looses, you win $50 and lose $50 so break even. If the bank beats both player 1 and 2 you loose the $100 and if player 1 or 2 wins, and the other pushes, you win $50 and push $50 so have a $50 profit.
December 16th, 2011 at 12:47:27 AM
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you wrote a lot but you didn't write anything.
how's the game played? cards dealt face up or down? whats the goal of the game? any rules for the banker? does he get a 3rd card?
and why do you think it's "exploitable"?
how's the game played? cards dealt face up or down? whats the goal of the game? any rules for the banker? does he get a 3rd card?
and why do you think it's "exploitable"?
