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March 4th, 2020 at 6:54:15 AM permalink
Find x:



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Last edited by: Wizard on Mar 4, 2020
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March 4th, 2020 at 7:49:45 AM permalink
4 squared plus b squared equals 7 squared

b equals 5.74

5.74 plus 5 equals 10.74

10.74 squared plus 8 squared equals 179.35

square root of 179.35 is 13.39

x = 13.39


That's my early morning mid-coffee high school math attempt.
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March 4th, 2020 at 8:24:08 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

4 squared plus b squared equals 7 squared

b equals 5.74

5.74 plus 5 equals 10.74

10.74 squared plus 8 squared equals 179.35

square root of 179.35 is 13.39

x = 13.39


That's my early morning mid-coffee high school math attempt.



To comment on just the bottom line, I disagree.
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March 4th, 2020 at 8:51:20 AM permalink
I'm guessing that you can't assume that extending the line of length 5 lands you right in that right angled corner?
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March 4th, 2020 at 8:53:46 AM permalink
redacted due to violation of rule 2.
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March 4th, 2020 at 10:19:02 AM permalink
I replied to the facebook post and came here to see if my answer was right.

I can make a right triangle with hypotenuse y with the other two sides 12 and 5. y is also the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the other two sides being 7 and x. Then, sqr(x) = sqr(12) + sqr(5) - sqr(7) = 144 + 25 - 49 = 120. x = sqrt(120) or approximately 10.954.
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March 4th, 2020 at 3:53:37 PM permalink
Question...

I agree with jml24 if we know the corner between 5 and 8 is a right angle. Do we know that?
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March 4th, 2020 at 4:06:32 PM permalink
Quote: jml24

I replied to the facebook post and came here to see if my answer was right.


I can make a right triangle with hypotenuse y with the other two sides 12 and 5. y is also the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the other two sides being 7 and x. Then, sqr(x) = sqr(12) + sqr(5) - sqr(7) = 144 + 25 - 49 = 120. x = sqrt(120) or approximately 10.954.



This is correct! Congratulations -- I owe you a beer, to be redeemed your next Vegas trip or my trip to wherever you may live.

CharliePatrick also provided a correct answer by PM, as a previous winner. He suggested a cleaner version of the problem, which I'll post in a moment.
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March 4th, 2020 at 4:13:50 PM permalink
Here is the Charlie Patrick version of the problem.

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March 4th, 2020 at 4:30:48 PM permalink
Dear Wizard,

Is there any chance we can get a problem that’s not geometry?
It’s all about making that GTA
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March 4th, 2020 at 5:13:47 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Is there any chance we can get a problem that’s not geometry?



Good suggestion. I will see what I can do. Anybody is welcome to pose a math puzzle, by the way.
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March 4th, 2020 at 5:36:32 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Quote: jml24

I replied to the facebook post and came here to see if my answer was right.


I can make a right triangle with hypotenuse y with the other two sides 12 and 5. y is also the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the other two sides being 7 and x. Then, sqr(x) = sqr(12) + sqr(5) - sqr(7) = 144 + 25 - 49 = 120. x = sqrt(120) or approximately 10.954.



This is correct! Congratulations -- I owe you a beer, to be redeemed your next Vegas trip or my trip to wherever you may live.

CharliePatrick also provided a correct answer by PM, as a previous winner. He suggested a cleaner version of the problem, which I'll post in a moment.



I live in Seattle and having been and off and on reader for years, would love to meet you for a beer. My next Vegas trip is not planned until November though. I will use this opportunity to plug my reason for coming then. https://heyscoops.com/ a very funny, Vegas-related podcast.
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March 4th, 2020 at 8:35:42 PM permalink
Quote: jml24

I live in Seattle and having been and off and on reader for years, would love to meet you for a beer. My next Vegas trip is not planned until November though. I will use this opportunity to plug my reason for coming then. https://heyscoops.com/ a very funny, Vegas-related podcast.



Good, we can torture each other with Seattle and Washington trivia. Remind me about this when November gets closer, although I may do a Washington trip this summer, in which case I'll let you know.

I will try to check out that podcast later.

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March 4th, 2020 at 9:02:32 PM permalink
I liked this puzzle.
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March 5th, 2020 at 5:26:06 AM permalink
Charlie Patrick version of the problem.

x = (576)^0.5 = 24
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March 5th, 2020 at 5:27:48 AM permalink
Quote: ssho88

Charlie Patrick version of the problem.

x = (576)^0.5 = 24



Correct!
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March 5th, 2020 at 5:46:39 AM permalink
I prefer questions related to probability.
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March 5th, 2020 at 9:44:57 AM permalink
Quote: jml24

I replied to the facebook post and came here to see if my answer was right.


I can make a right triangle with hypotenuse y with the other two sides 12 and 5. y is also the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the other two sides being 7 and x. Then, sqr(x) = sqr(12) + sqr(5) - sqr(7) = 144 + 25 - 49 = 120. x = sqrt(120) or approximately 10.954.



How are you getting 12? Where is that number coming from?
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March 5th, 2020 at 12:13:16 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: jml24

I replied to the facebook post and came here to see if my answer was right.


I can make a right triangle with hypotenuse y with the other two sides 12 and 5. y is also the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the other two sides being 7 and x. Then, sqr(x) = sqr(12) + sqr(5) - sqr(7) = 144 + 25 - 49 = 120. x = sqrt(120) or approximately 10.954.



How are you getting 12? Where is that number coming from?



One way to think about it a bit visually is if you finish the 4 x 5 rectangle, the one side is 8 + 4 = 12.
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March 5th, 2020 at 3:02:52 PM permalink
Quote: ssho88

Charlie Patrick version of the problem.

x = (576)^0.5 = 24

What I liked about it was there are two sets of numbers such that A^2 + B^2 = C^2 + D^2 = E^2 (or in geometry terms two different right angled triangles with integer values sharing a hypotenuse). I suspect this is the smallest solution, but it was interesting.
First triangle is 7 24 25 as 49+576=625, second triangle is 15 20 25 (being 5x3 4 5) as 225+400=625.
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March 5th, 2020 at 6:09:57 PM permalink
x^2 = (14+6)^2 + 15^2 - 7^2 = 576
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