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October 5th, 2018 at 3:53:16 PM permalink
I saw this on another forum and noticed some of the guesses, IMO, were absolutely terrible. It goes like this: The OP makes a thread saying he's going to make 20-60 bets this weekend. After the weekend is over, he'll round his win % up (so there's no decimal). Whoever guesses it on the spot, wins $100. If no one guesses it exactly, then it carries on to next weekend's bets. He mentioned his year-to-date or this-season win % was 56%.

Many people made guesses, obviously. But I saw a lot of them were just truly terrible. Reminder: The actual win % gets rounded UP and you have to guess that number exactly (it's not "price is right rules" where it's the closest without going over).

I saw some guesses that couldn't even possibly win, like 51%. There's no way to get to 51% if you do between 20-60 bets, so that person can't even win -- he may as well have guessed 110%. Nvm, 30/59 would win for 51%.

Assume he'll only be making bets that are 50/50, he'll be making a random amount of bets between 20-60 (inclusive), and the win % is rounded up. (ie: 31 wins out of 43 bets is 0.72093023255, so that'd get rounded up to 73%) -- What is the best number to guess? If that number is already guessed, what's the second best number? Third? Fourth? ... 100'th?

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Last edited by: RS on Oct 5, 2018
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:02:52 PM permalink
I would take 56.
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:09:05 PM permalink
This would be a fun but slightly tedious exercise to map out, though I’m sure the programmers could do it efficiently. One question, by saying assume the bets made are 50/50, are you saying that he’s betting on a coin flip and we should ignore the 56% evidence that could suggest that the OP has an edge on these bets and that they may not be 50/50 for him?
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:10:21 PM permalink
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:10:27 PM permalink
Is he picking the games before people guess? I bet it is possible to see all the guesses and then pick the amount of games that would be impossible to lose.
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:25:48 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

This would be a fun but slightly tedious exercise to map out, though I’m sure the programmers could do it efficiently. One question, by saying assume the bets made are 50/50, are you saying that he’s betting on a coin flip and we should ignore the 56% evidence that could suggest that the OP has an edge on these bets and that they may not be 50/50 for him?


I don't know what kind of bets he's actually making, but figuring out the optimal guess wouldn't be possible if you didn't know what kind of bets he was making. So I'm just going to assume they are 50/50 coin-flips where he doesn't have an edge.

I was mostly thinking of this along the lines of mapping it out like you were saying and figuring out which number is the most likely. Also, what are all the numbers that cannot possibly win?

Quote: GWAE

Is he picking the games before people guess? I bet it is possible to see all the guesses and then pick the amount of games that would be impossible to lose.


Either way, he's going to pay out the $100, either it's going to be this week, next week, the following, etc. It's not like he's trying to win/lose some % to avoid paying out the $100 freeroll.
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:47:30 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I don't know what kind of bets he's actually making, but figuring out the optimal guess wouldn't be possible if you didn't know what kind of bets he was making. So I'm just going to assume they are 50/50 coin-flips where he doesn't have an edge.

I was mostly thinking of this along the lines of mapping it out like you were saying and figuring out which number is the most likely. Also, what are all the numbers that cannot possibly win?


Either way, he's going to pay out the $100, either it's going to be this week, next week, the following, etc. It's not like he's trying to win/lose some % to avoid paying out the $100 freeroll.



Unless he can make it work all season and never pay it out at all
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October 5th, 2018 at 4:52:34 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I don't know what kind of bets he's actually making, but figuring out the optimal guess wouldn't be possible if you didn't know what kind of bets he was making. So I'm just going to assume they are 50/50 coin-flips where he doesn't have an edge.


Why wouldn’t the answer be 50% in that situation?
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October 5th, 2018 at 5:25:42 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Why wouldn’t the answer be 50% in that situation?


It could be. I'm not sure. And even if it is..then what's the next best answer?
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October 5th, 2018 at 5:43:44 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Why wouldn’t the answer be 50% in that situation?

Not clear to me 50% is correct since 50% is impossible if he picks an odd number of games between 20-60. ignore. Did math too quickly and not right.
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October 5th, 2018 at 6:16:52 PM permalink
If he's doing the picking, why would he get 50%? He's only going to pick games he feels he has some insight on, or why would the number vary between 20 and 60?

I would think he could do better than 50% with some regularity, or you wouldn't even know he was doing any picks.

I think the winning range is 55-59, and since he's been running 56, that's where I'd start. Next guess is 55%, then 57, etc.

You don't say for sure, but I take it he's starting fresh, them building on that. If he's building on his record so far, then even more reason to pick 56.
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October 6th, 2018 at 10:56:26 AM permalink
Picking a random number of games between 20 and 60 games would mean there are 1681 possible different won-loss records. I think, (61 x 61 / 2) - (20 x 21 / 2). Use previous won-loss records to decide the probability for each game (or just assuming 50% would be sufficient). Then determine the probability of each record, eg 0 wins 20 losses, 1 win 19 losses all the way to 59 wins and 1 loss, and 60 wins and 0 losses. Convert each record into a percentage and add all the probabilities for each winning percentage together.

Intuition tells me 50% is the best guess.
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October 8th, 2018 at 4:04:54 AM permalink
Okay so I worked on this for a few minutes just now...and I'm hit some roadblocks.

All in Excel. First, I determined the probability of each possible result (ie: 0-20, 1-19, 2-18....59-1, 60-0). I have that in a square grid thingie. Pretty straight forward.

Next, I determined the win-rate % of each of those records. That's super simple: 0/20 = 0, 1/20 = 0.05, 2/20 = 0.1 ..... 59/60 = (whatever that % is), and 60/60 = 100%.

Then I set up a "round-up" table, which is the same thing, but all of them are rounded up, as described in the OP. EG: 52.36% goes to 53%.

Now I'm having trouble figuring out how to add up all these numbers and their respective probabilities. I have the probability that the weekend ends in a "0-20" record, for instance. But I don't know of a convenient way to add up all the "weekend record probabilities" (probability of that even occurring) for each win-rates from 0% to 100%. I basically need a function that would behave like the following:


=FUNCTION(winrates!A1:AO61, probability!A1:AO61, 0.52)

Where 'winrates' sheet shows all the winrates from 0 to 100% for each outcome, and 'probability' sheet shows the probability that exact record happens, 0.52 being the number I'm looking up (ie: 52%)....and the output would show how likely a weekend is to end with that winrate.

The function would search for all "0.52" entries in the range winrates!A1:AO61 and return the sum of those respective cells from probability!A1:AO61.



note in probabilities, the format is kinda messed up and doesn't {TAB} properly
probabilities:

9.53674E-07 4.76837E-07 2.38419E-07 1.19209E-07 5.96046E-08 2.98023E-08 1.49012E-08 7.45058E-09 3.72529E-09 1.86265E-09 9.31323E-10 4.65661E-10 2.32831E-10 1.16415E-10 5.82077E-11 2.91038E-11 1.45519E-11 7.27596E-12 3.63798E-12 1.81899E-12 9.09495E-13 4.54747E-13 2.27374E-13 1.13687E-13 5.68434E-14 2.84217E-14 1.42109E-14 7.10543E-15 3.55271E-15 1.77636E-15 8.88178E-16 4.44089E-16 2.22045E-16 1.11022E-16 5.55112E-17 2.77556E-17 1.38778E-17 6.93889E-18 3.46945E-18 1.73472E-18 8.67362E-19
1.90735E-05 1.00136E-05 5.24521E-06 2.74181E-06 1.43051E-06 7.45058E-07 3.8743E-07 2.01166E-07 1.04308E-07 5.40167E-08 2.79397E-08 1.44355E-08 7.45058E-09 3.84171E-09 1.97906E-09 1.01863E-09 5.23869E-10 2.6921E-10 1.38243E-10 7.09406E-11 3.63798E-11 1.86446E-11 9.54969E-12 4.88853E-12 2.50111E-12 1.27898E-12 6.53699E-13 3.33955E-13 1.7053E-13 8.70415E-14 4.44089E-14 2.26485E-14 1.15463E-14 5.88418E-15 2.9976E-15 1.52656E-15 7.77156E-16 3.95517E-16 2.01228E-16 1.02349E-16 5.20417E-17
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1.90735E-05 0.000100136 0.000367165 0.001055598 0.002533436 0.005277991 0.009801984 0.016540848 0.025730208 0.037308801 0.050875638 0.065714365 0.080879219 0.095321937 0.108031528 0.118159484 0.125110042 0.128585321 0.128585321 0.125370688 0.119400655 0.111259701 0.101584945 0.091003179 0.080082798 0.069302421 0.059035396 0.049547564 0.041004881 0.033487319 0.027005903 0.021520329 0.016955411 0.013215246 0.010194619 0.007787556 0.005893286 0.004419964 0.00328664 0.002423897 0.001773583
9.53674E-07 1.00136E-05 5.50747E-05 0.00021112 0.000633359 0.001583397 0.003430694 0.006616339 0.011578593 0.0186544 0.027981601 0.039428619 0.052571492 0.066725356 0.081023646 0.094527587 0.106343535 0.115726789 0.122156055 0.125370688 0.125370688 0.122385671 0.116822686 0.109203815 0.100103497 0.090093148 0.079697784 0.06936659 0.059457077 0.050230979 0.041859149 0.034432526 0.027976427 0.022465919 0.017840583 0.014017601 0.010902578 0.008397932 0.006408948 0.004847794 0.003635846
4.76837E-07 5.24521E-06 3.016E-05 0.00012064 0.000376999 0.000980198 0.002205446 0.004410893 0.007994743 0.013324572 0.020653086 0.030040853 0.041306172 0.054015764 0.067519705 0.081023646 0.093683591 0.10470519 0.113430622 0.119400655 0.122385671 0.122385671 0.119604179 0.114403997 0.107253747 0.098673447 0.089185616 0.079276103 0.06936659 0.059798785 0.050828967 0.042630746 0.035303587 0.028884753 0.023362668 0.018690134 0.014796356 0.011597144 0.009003046 0.00692542
2.38419E-07 2.74181E-06 1.64509E-05 6.85453E-05 0.000222772 0.000601485 0.001403466 0.002907179 0.005450961 0.009387766 0.015020426 0.02253064 0.031918406 0.042967085 0.055243395 0.068133521 0.080908556 0.092806873 0.103118747 0.111259701 0.116822686 0.119604179 0.119604179 0.117004088 0.112128918 0.105401182 0.097293399 0.088284751 0.078825671 0.069312228 0.060070597 0.051350672 0.043327129 0.036105941 0.029734304 0.024212219 0.019504288 0.015550716 0.012276881
1.19209E-07 1.43051E-06 8.9407E-06 3.8743E-05 0.000130758 0.000366122 0.000884794 0.001895986 0.003673474 0.00653062 0.010775523 0.016653081 0.024285744 0.033626414 0.044434905 0.056284213 0.068596384 0.080701628 0.091910188 0.101584945 0.109203815 0.114403997 0.117004088 0.117004088 0.114566503 0.109983843 0.103638621 0.095961686 0.087393678 0.078352953 0.069211775 0.060281224 0.051804176 0.043955059 0.036844682 0.030528451 0.025016369 0.020283543
5.96046E-08 7.45058E-07 4.84288E-06 2.17929E-05 7.62753E-05 0.000221198 0.000552996 0.001224491 0.002448983 0.004489801 0.007632662 0.012142872 0.018214308 0.025920361 0.035177633 0.045730923 0.057163653 0.068932641 0.080421414 0.091003179 0.100103497 0.107253747 0.112128918 0.114566503 0.114566503 0.112275173 0.107956897 0.101959291 0.094676485 0.086514719 0.077863247 0.069072235 0.060438206 0.052196632 0.044520657 0.037524554 0.031270461
2.98023E-08 3.8743E-07 2.61515E-06 1.22041E-05 4.42397E-05 0.000132719 0.000342858 0.000783674 0.001616328 0.003053065 0.005342864 0.008742868 0.013478588 0.019699474 0.027438554 0.036584738 0.046874196 0.057903418 0.069162416 0.080082798 0.090093148 0.098673447 0.105401182 0.109983843 0.112275173 0.112275173 0.110116035 0.106037663 0.100357074 0.093435896 0.085649572 0.077360904 0.068899555 0.060548094 0.052534375 0.045029465
1.49012E-08 2.01166E-07 1.40816E-06 6.80611E-06 2.55229E-05 7.9121E-05 0.000210989 0.000497332 0.00105683 0.002054948 0.003698906 0.006220887 0.009849737 0.014774606 0.02110658 0.028845659 0.037859927 0.047881673 0.058522045 0.069302421 0.079697784 0.089185616 0.097293399 0.103638621 0.107956897 0.110116035 0.110116035 0.108076849 0.104216961 0.098826429 0.092238 0.084799452 0.076849503 0.068698798 0.060616587
7.45058E-09 1.04308E-07 7.56234E-07 3.78117E-06 1.4652E-05 4.68865E-05 0.000128938 0.000313135 0.000684983 0.001369965 0.002534435 0.004377661 0.007113699 0.010944152 0.016025366 0.022435513 0.03014772 0.039014696 0.048768371 0.059035396 0.06936659 0.079276103 0.088284751 0.095961686 0.101959291 0.106037663 0.108076849 0.108076849 0.106146905 0.102486667 0.097362334 0.091080893 0.083965198 0.076331998
3.72529E-09 5.40167E-08 4.05125E-07 2.09315E-06 8.37259E-06 2.76295E-05 7.82837E-05 0.000195709 0.000440346 0.000905155 0.001719795 0.003048728 0.005081214 0.008012683 0.012019025 0.017227269 0.023687494 0.031351095 0.040059733 0.049547564 0.059457077 0.06936659 0.078825671 0.087393678 0.094676485 0.100357074 0.104216961 0.106146905 0.106146905 0.104316786 0.10083956 0.095960226 0.089962712
1.86265E-09 2.79397E-08 2.16532E-07 1.15484E-06 4.76371E-06 1.61966E-05 4.72402E-05 0.000121475 0.00028091 0.000593033 0.001156414 0.002102571 0.003591892 0.005802288 0.008910656 0.013068962 0.018378228 0.024864662 0.032462197 0.041004881 0.050230979 0.059798785 0.069312228 0.078352953 0.086514719 0.093435896 0.098826429 0.102486667 0.104316786 0.104316786 0.102578173 0.0992692
9.31323E-10 1.44355E-08 1.15484E-07 6.35162E-07 2.69944E-06 9.44803E-06 2.83441E-05 7.49094E-05 0.00017791 0.000385471 0.000770943 0.001436757 0.002514325 0.004158306 0.006534481 0.009801722 0.014089975 0.019477318 0.025969758 0.033487319 0.041859149 0.050828967 0.060070597 0.069211775 0.077863247 0.085649572 0.092238 0.097362334 0.10083956 0.102578173 0.102578173
4.65661E-10 7.45058E-09 6.14673E-08 3.48315E-07 1.52388E-06 5.48596E-06 1.6915E-05 4.59122E-05 0.000111911 0.000248691 0.000509817 0.000973287 0.001743806 0.002951056 0.004742769 0.007272245 0.01068111 0.015079214 0.020524486 0.027005903 0.034432526 0.042630746 0.051350672 0.060281224 0.069072235 0.077360904 0.084799452 0.091080893 0.095960226 0.0992692
2.32831E-10 3.84171E-09 3.26545E-08 1.90485E-07 8.57181E-07 3.17157E-06 1.00433E-05 2.79778E-05 6.99444E-05 0.000159318 0.000334567 0.000653927 0.001198867 0.002074961 0.003408865 0.005340555 0.008010833 0.011545023 0.016034755 0.021520329 0.027976427 0.035303587 0.043327129 0.051804176 0.060438206 0.068899555 0.076849503 0.083965198 0.089962712
1.16415E-10 1.97906E-09 1.73168E-08 1.03901E-07 4.80541E-07 1.82605E-06 5.93468E-06 1.69562E-05 4.34503E-05 0.000101384 0.000217976 0.000435951 0.000817409 0.001446185 0.002427525 0.00388404 0.005947436 0.00874623 0.012390492 0.016955411 0.022465919 0.028884753 0.036105941 0.043955059 0.052196632 0.060548094 0.068698798 0.076331998
5.82077E-11 1.01863E-09 9.16771E-09 5.65342E-08 2.68537E-07 1.0473E-06 3.49099E-06 1.02236E-05 2.6837E-05 6.41105E-05 0.000141043 0.000288497 0.000552953 0.000999569 0.001713547 0.002798794 0.004373115 0.006559672 0.009475082 0.013215246 0.017840583 0.023362668 0.029734304 0.036844682 0.044520657 0.052534375 0.060616587
2.91038E-11 5.23869E-10 4.84579E-09 3.069E-08 1.49614E-07 5.98455E-07 2.04472E-06 6.13416E-06 1.64856E-05 4.0298E-05 9.06706E-05 0.000189584 0.000371269 0.000685419 0.001199483 0.001999138 0.003186127 0.004872899 0.007173991 0.010194619 0.014017601 0.018690134 0.024212219 0.030528451 0.037524554 0.045029465
1.45519E-11 2.6921E-10 2.5575E-09 1.66237E-08 8.31187E-08 3.40787E-07 1.19275E-06 3.66346E-06 1.00745E-05 2.51863E-05 5.79284E-05 0.000123756 0.000247512 0.000466466 0.000832974 0.001416056 0.002301091 0.003586995 0.005380493 0.007787556 0.010902578 0.014796356 0.019504288 0.025016369 0.031270461
7.27596E-12 1.38243E-10 1.34787E-09 8.98581E-09 4.60523E-08 1.9342E-07 6.93087E-07 2.17827E-06 6.12639E-06 1.56563E-05 3.67924E-05 8.02743E-05 0.000163893 0.000315179 0.000574077 0.000995067 0.001648079 0.002617537 0.003999015 0.005893286 0.008397932 0.011597144 0.015550716 0.020283543
3.63798E-12 7.09406E-11 7.09406E-10 4.84761E-09 2.54499E-08 1.09435E-07 4.01261E-07 1.28977E-06 3.70808E-06 9.6822E-06 2.32373E-05 5.17558E-05 0.000107825 0.000211502 0.000392789 0.000693928 0.001171003 0.00189427 0.002946643 0.004419964 0.006408948 0.009003046 0.012276881
1.81899E-12 3.63798E-11 3.72893E-10 2.61025E-09 1.40301E-08 6.17324E-08 2.31497E-07 7.60631E-07 2.23435E-06 5.95828E-06 1.45978E-05 3.31768E-05 7.05007E-05 0.000141001 0.000266895 0.000480412 0.000825708 0.001359989 0.002153316 0.00328664 0.004847794 0.00692542
9.09495E-13 1.86446E-11 1.95769E-10 1.40301E-09 7.71655E-09 3.47245E-08 1.33111E-07 4.46871E-07 1.34061E-06 3.64945E-06 9.12362E-06 2.11502E-05 4.58254E-05 9.34134E-05 0.000180154 0.000330283 0.000577995 0.000968992 0.001561154 0.002423897 0.003635846
4.54747E-13 9.54969E-12 1.02659E-10 7.52834E-10 4.23469E-09 1.94796E-08 7.6295E-08 2.61583E-07 8.01098E-07 2.22527E-06 5.67444E-06 1.34123E-05 2.96189E-05 6.15161E-05 0.000120835 0.000225559 0.000401777 0.000685385 0.001123269 0.001773583
2.27374E-13 4.88853E-12 5.37739E-11 4.03304E-10 2.319E-09 1.08993E-08 4.35972E-08 1.5259E-07 4.76844E-07 1.35106E-06 3.51275E-06 8.46254E-06 1.90407E-05 4.02784E-05 8.05568E-05 0.000153058 0.000277418 0.000481401 0.000802335
1.13687E-13 2.50111E-12 2.81375E-11 2.15721E-10 1.26736E-09 6.08333E-09 2.48402E-08 8.87152E-08 2.8278E-07 8.16919E-07 2.16483E-06 5.31369E-06 1.21772E-05 2.62278E-05 5.33923E-05 0.000103225 0.000190321 0.000335861
5.68434E-14 1.27898E-12 1.47082E-11 1.15215E-10 6.91287E-10 3.38731E-09 1.41138E-08 5.14145E-08 1.67097E-07 4.92008E-07 1.32842E-06 3.32105E-06 7.74913E-06 1.69885E-05 3.51904E-05 6.92078E-05 0.000129765
2.84217E-14 6.53699E-13 7.68097E-12 6.14477E-11 3.76367E-10 1.88184E-09 7.99781E-09 2.97061E-08 9.84016E-08 2.95205E-07 8.11813E-07 2.06643E-06 4.90778E-06 1.09481E-05 2.30693E-05 4.61385E-05
1.42109E-14 3.33955E-13 4.00746E-12 3.27276E-11 2.04547E-10 1.04319E-09 4.5205E-09 1.71133E-08 5.77575E-08 1.76481E-07 4.94147E-07 1.28029E-06 3.09403E-06 7.02108E-06 1.50452E-05
7.10543E-15 1.7053E-13 2.089E-12 1.74083E-11 1.10978E-10 5.77085E-10 2.54879E-09 9.83106E-09 3.37943E-08 1.05138E-07 2.99642E-07 7.89966E-07 1.942E-06 4.48154E-06
3.55271E-15 8.70415E-14 1.08802E-12 9.24816E-12 6.0113E-11 3.18599E-10 1.4337E-09 5.63238E-09 1.97133E-08 6.24255E-08 1.81034E-07 4.855E-07 1.21375E-06
1.77636E-15 4.44089E-14 5.66214E-13 4.90719E-12 3.25101E-11 1.75555E-10 8.04625E-10 3.2185E-09 1.14659E-08 3.69457E-08 1.0899E-07 2.97245E-07
8.88178E-16 2.26485E-14 2.94431E-13 2.60081E-12 1.75555E-11 9.6555E-11 4.5059E-10 1.83455E-09 6.65023E-09 2.1798E-08 6.53939E-08
4.44089E-16 1.15463E-14 1.52989E-13 1.3769E-12 9.46618E-12 5.30106E-11 2.518E-10 1.04317E-09 3.8467E-09 1.28223E-08
2.22045E-16 5.88418E-15 7.94365E-14 7.28168E-13 5.09717E-12 2.90539E-11 1.40427E-10 5.918E-10 2.21925E-09
1.11022E-16 2.9976E-15 4.1217E-14 3.84692E-13 2.74093E-12 1.58974E-11 7.81623E-11 3.34981E-10
5.55112E-17 1.52656E-15 2.13718E-14 2.03032E-13 1.47198E-12 8.6847E-12 4.34235E-11
2.77556E-17 7.77156E-16 1.10745E-14 1.07053E-13 7.89518E-13 4.73711E-12
1.38778E-17 3.95517E-16 5.735E-15 5.63941E-14 4.22956E-13
6.93889E-18 2.01228E-16 2.96811E-15 2.96811E-14
3.46945E-18 1.02349E-16 1.53523E-15
1.73472E-18 5.20417E-17
8.67362E-19



winrates:

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
10 10 10 9 9 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
15 15 14 14 13 12 12 12 11 11 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 9 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 5
20 20 19 18 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 13 13 13 12 12 12 11 11 11 10 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 9 9 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7
25 24 23 22 21 20 20 19 18 18 17 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 14 13 13 13 12 12 12 12 11 11 11 11 10 10 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 9 9
30 29 28 27 25 24 24 23 22 21 20 20 19 19 18 18 17 17 16 16 15 15 15 14 14 14 14 13 13 13 12 12 12 12 12 11 11 11 11 11 10
35 34 32 31 30 28 27 26 25 25 24 23 22 22 21 20 20 19 19 18 18 18 17 17 16 16 16 15 15 15 14 14 14 14 13 13 13 13 13 12 12
40 39 37 35 34 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 25 24 23 23 22 22 21 20 20 20 19 19 18 18 18 17 17 16 16 16 16 15 15 15 15 14 14 14
45 43 41 40 38 36 35 34 33 32 30 30 29 28 27 26 25 25 24 24 23 22 22 21 21 20 20 20 19 19 18 18 18 17 17 17 17 16 16 16 15
50 48 46 44 42 40 39 38 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 28 27 26 25 25 24 24 23 23 22 22 21 21 20 20 20 19 19 19 18 18 18 17 17
55 53 50 48 46 44 43 41 40 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 29 28 27 27 26 25 25 24 24 23 23 22 22 22 21 21 20 20 20 19 19 19
60 58 55 53 50 48 47 45 43 42 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 30 29 28 28 27 27 26 25 25 24 24 24 23 23 22 22 22 21 21 20
65 62 60 57 55 52 50 49 47 45 44 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 31 30 29 29 28 28 27 26 26 25 25 25 24 24 23 23 23 22
70 67 64 61 59 56 54 52 50 49 47 46 44 43 42 40 39 38 37 36 35 35 34 33 32 32 31 30 30 29 28 28 27 27 26 26 25 25 25 24 24
75 72 69 66 63 60 58 56 54 52 50 49 47 46 45 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 35 34 33 32 32 31 30 30 29 29 28 28 27 27 26 26 25
80 77 73 70 67 64 62 60 58 56 54 52 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 40 40 39 38 37 36 35 35 34 33 32 32 31 31 30 30 29 29 28 28 27
85 81 78 74 71 68 66 63 61 59 57 55 54 52 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 37 36 35 34 34 33 33 32 31 31 30 30 29 29
90 86 82 79 75 72 70 67 65 63 60 59 57 55 53 52 50 49 48 47 45 44 43 42 41 40 40 39 38 37 36 36 35 34 34 33 33 32 32 31 30
95 91 87 83 80 76 74 71 68 66 64 62 60 58 56 55 53 52 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 38 37 36 36 35 34 34 33 33 32
100 96 91 87 84 80 77 75 72 69 67 65 63 61 59 58 56 55 53 52 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 40 39 38 38 37 36 36 35 34 34
100 96 92 88 84 81 78 75 73 70 68 66 64 62 60 59 57 56 54 53 52 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 42 41 40 39 39 38 37 37 36 35
100 96 92 88 85 82 79 76 74 71 69 67 65 63 62 60 58 57 55 54 53 52 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 44 43 42 41 40 40 39 38 38 37
100 96 92 89 86 83 80 77 75 72 70 68 66 64 63 61 59 58 57 55 54 53 52 50 49 48 47 46 46 45 44 43 42 42 41 40 39 39
100 96 93 89 86 83 80 78 75 73 71 69 67 65 64 62 60 59 58 56 55 54 53 52 50 49 48 48 47 46 45 44 43 43 42 41 40
100 97 93 90 87 84 81 79 76 74 72 70 68 66 65 63 61 60 59 57 56 55 54 53 52 50 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 44 43 42
100 97 93 90 87 84 82 79 77 75 73 71 69 67 65 64 62 61 60 58 57 56 55 54 52 51 50 50 49 48 47 46 45 45 44
100 97 94 90 88 85 82 80 78 75 73 72 70 68 66 65 63 62 60 59 58 57 56 54 53 52 51 50 50 49 48 47 46 45
100 97 94 91 88 85 83 80 78 76 74 72 70 69 67 66 64 63 61 60 59 58 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 50 49 48 47
100 97 94 91 88 86 83 81 79 77 75 73 71 70 68 66 65 64 62 61 60 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 50 49
100 97 94 91 89 86 84 82 79 77 75 74 72 70 69 67 66 64 63 62 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50
100 97 94 92 89 87 84 82 80 78 76 74 73 71 69 68 66 65 64 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52
100 97 95 92 89 87 85 83 80 79 77 75 73 72 70 69 67 66 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54
100 98 95 92 90 87 85 83 81 79 77 75 74 72 71 69 68 66 65 64 63 62 60 59 58 57 56 55
100 98 95 92 90 88 85 83 81 80 78 76 74 73 71 70 68 67 66 65 63 62 61 60 59 58 57
100 98 95 93 90 88 86 84 82 80 78 77 75 73 72 70 69 68 67 65 64 63 62 61 60 59
100 98 95 93 90 88 86 84 82 80 79 77 75 74 72 71 70 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 60
100 98 95 93 91 89 87 85 83 81 79 78 76 74 73 72 70 69 68 67 65 64 63 62
100 98 95 93 91 89 87 85 83 81 80 78 76 75 74 72 71 70 68 67 66 65 64
100 98 96 93 91 89 87 85 83 82 80 78 77 75 74 73 71 70 69 68 67 65
100 98 96 94 91 89 87 86 84 82 80 79 77 76 75 73 72 71 69 68 67
100 98 96 94 92 90 88 86 84 82 81 79 78 76 75 74 72 71 70 69
100 98 96 94 92 90 88 86 84 83 81 80 78 77 75 74 73 72 70
100 98 96 94 92 90 88 86 85 83 82 80 79 77 76 75 73 72
100 98 96 94 92 90 88 87 85 84 82 80 79 78 76 75 74
100 98 96 94 92 90 89 87 85 84 82 81 79 78 77 75
100 98 96 94 92 91 89 87 86 84 83 81 80 78 77
100 98 96 94 93 91 89 88 86 84 83 82 80 79
100 98 96 95 93 91 89 88 86 85 83 82 80
100 98 97 95 93 91 90 88 86 85 84 82
100 99 97 95 93 91 90 88 87 85 84
100 99 97 95 93 92 90 88 87 85
100 99 97 95 93 92 90 89 87
100 99 97 95 93 92 90 89
100 99 97 95 94 92 90
100 99 97 95 94 92
100 99 97 95 94
100 99 97 95
100 99 97
100 99
100

unJon
unJon
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October 8th, 2018 at 4:22:19 AM permalink
You want to use the SUMIF formula or I prefer to break it into an array formula:

First drag down a colum that goes from 0%, 1%, 2% . . . 100%.

Say that’s in Column A of your current worksheet from A1:A101

Then use in cell B2: SUM(IF(winrates!$A$1:$AO$61=A1,probability!$A$1:$AO$61,0)

Make sure when you finish typing the above you exit the cell with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. That tells Excel it’s an array function and will but funny brackets around the whole thing. {}

The function will search everything in the array of winrates that matches 0% and add up the corresponding probabilities. Then just drag that formula down to B101 to get all the winrates added.

Let me know if unclear.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
RS
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October 8th, 2018 at 4:51:49 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

You want to use the SUMIF formula or I prefer to break it into an array formula:

First drag down a colum that goes from 0%, 1%, 2% . . . 100%.

Say that’s in Column A of your current worksheet from A1:A101

Then use in cell B2: SUM(IF(winrates!$A$1:$AO$61=A1,probability!$A$1:$AO$61,0)

Make sure when you finish typing the above you exit the cell with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. That tells Excel it’s an array function and will but funny brackets around the whole thing. {}

The function will search everything in the array of winrates that matches 0% and add up the corresponding probabilities. Then just drag that formula down to B101 to get all the winrates added.

Let me know if unclear.


Now I want to delete my question for how stupid it was (kind of). I totally forgot you could SUMIFS over an entire table and not just a row or column. I had actually considered doing that, and I was like, "Nahhh, you can't do that over a TABLE, that's only for columns or rows...." Oh the shame! :'(


Anyway, results are kinda interesting. 50% is at the top...but then 52, 49, 48...then 55%!?


Rank # win% chance to win 1-in-x prob
1 50 0.07962347 12.55911106
2 52 0.056520349 17.69274284
3 49 0.050107229 19.95720013
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