Blitz
Blitz
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January 10th, 2020 at 3:54:48 PM permalink
Quote: JaxxKami

The side-bet is based only on the player's two cards, and pays as follows:

Straight - 1 to 1
Pair - 3 to 1
Straight Flush - 4 to 1
A-K Suited - 9 to 1

The house edge is listed at about 2.5%, but is this an average, or for optimum play?


How do they get this house edge value I wonder?

Also should take into concideration difference for HC and ENHC as under HC rule hands vs ace and tens have much higher EV then under ENHC. Wizard of Odds reports 2.69% for HC. So for British rules cannot be less anyway.
SOOPOO
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January 10th, 2020 at 4:18:52 PM permalink
It seems like they will be giving out tons of tequila..... Assuming infinite decks ( a decent approximation), and six spots per table, around 1 bottle of tequila every 110 deals. Say 10 tables, 33 deals per hour, that's 24 or so bottles per 8 hour shift. Do they hand you the bottle, or give you a coupon?
charliepatrick
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January 11th, 2020 at 3:24:45 PM permalink
Quote: Blitz

How do they get this house edge value I wonder?

Also should take into concideration difference for HC and ENHC as under HC rule hands vs ace and tens have much higher EV then under ENHC. Wizard of Odds reports 2.69% for HC. So for British rules cannot be less anyway.

The UK details can be found here - https://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/blackjackhousemoney.html .

When I played it they had to adopt US-like rules, i.e. the House Money bet (and presumably double/split) cannot lose if the dealer subsequently gets a Blackjack. Also, in the UK, you would double the 65 vs 10. The only downside is that you would lose the original Blackjack bet and its double/split if the dealer gets BJ.

Personally if a casino tried to argue that your bet lost to a BJ, then I would ask for its House rules, then its posted House Edge. Using reverse engineering you can then calcualte whether the rules have to be as per US.

btw the way to get House Edge is fairly simple. You look at all the winning combinations and dealer upcards (e.g. 65 vs 10) and know what the EV of that is from normal Blackjack (except for the UK you know if Dealer gets a BJ it's a standoff). Thus you either take the money or leave it running. Add this up for all the combinations.
DogHand
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January 11th, 2020 at 9:05:30 PM permalink
Folks,

Back in 2012 I performed an analysis of whether to add or not for this sidebet based on the matchup and the HiLo TC for a 6D game with H17. The analysis (which also covers some other situations as well) is available at the link below for those with bj21.com Green Chip access:

https://bj21.com/boards/green-chip-forums/sub_boards/posts-of-the-month-archive/topics/aug-2012-positive-ev-hands

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

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