What are the odds for winning the four rolls no seven bet at Sam's Town?
July 14th, 2010 at 9:55:48 AM
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I am looking for the odds on winning the four rolls no seven bet at Sam's Town, someone told me it was around 48%. I have someone asking me about the bet. I say it's a bad bet, but I do admit I am no math guy, and hate to write anything about a bet with out the math behind the bet!
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July 14th, 2010 at 10:01:20 AM
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Is that the entire bet? That the next four rolls can be anything, but no sevens?
The odds of a single roll not being a seven is 30/36, so four in a row would be ( 30/36 ) ^ 4 = 48.225%
The odds of a single roll not being a seven is 30/36, so four in a row would be ( 30/36 ) ^ 4 = 48.225%
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July 14th, 2010 at 10:03:21 AM
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The probability of rolling a 7 on a given roll is 16.67%. So the probability of NOT rolling a 7 on any roll is 83.33%. The odds of not rolling a 7 on 4 consecutive rolls .8333^4=48.22%
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July 14th, 2010 at 10:15:58 AM
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Found it:
https://wizardofodds.com/craps/appendix4.html
Too lazy to format, so just cut and paste. Then search "four rolls no seven"
The bet pays even money (1 to 1)
https://wizardofodds.com/craps/appendix4.html
Too lazy to format, so just cut and paste. Then search "four rolls no seven"
The bet pays even money (1 to 1)
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July 14th, 2010 at 10:44:26 AM
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Has anyone played this bet? How do they track it? I assume it'd have to be done by the stickman to somehow keep track which roll each player is on.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:02:34 PM
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Ruascott
The bet is tracked by the boxman, with white buttons with the numbers 1-4 on the buttons. Every roll one more button placed on the felt with number up! Then the pay out of even money if you get to the four rolls with out the 7 showing!
The bet is tracked by the boxman, with white buttons with the numbers 1-4 on the buttons. Every roll one more button placed on the felt with number up! Then the pay out of even money if you get to the four rolls with out the 7 showing!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
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July 14th, 2010 at 3:50:13 PM
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So basically it is worse odds than a field bet. Both pay even money but the side bet has 27% lower odds of hitting.
It's not as bad as BIG 8/8.
It's not as bad as BIG 8/8.
July 14th, 2010 at 6:17:37 PM
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Can I get more details? I would like to take that bet. Shooter has to roll anything put a 7, 4 times to pay even money?
July 14th, 2010 at 8:51:59 PM
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The bet can only be made at the shooters first comeout roll. Well if the above numbers are true then we have a win rate of 48.22% The pass line has a win rate of 49.3% Only a DI can overcome those odds. Rick, good to see you on this board!
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July 15th, 2010 at 7:51:41 AM
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Quote: DeMangoOnly a DI can overcome those odds.
Sorry, what is a DI?
July 15th, 2010 at 8:05:35 AM
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Drill Instructor. Damn, I hated basic training!Quote: ruascottSorry, what is a DI?
(OK, enough of my foolishness, I suppose. Someone give the correct answer.)
July 15th, 2010 at 8:17:02 AM
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Quote: DocDrill Instructor. Damn, I hated basic training!
(OK, enough of my foolishness, I suppose. Someone give the correct answer.)
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July 15th, 2010 at 9:51:43 AM
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Quote: DeMangoThe bet can only be made at the shooters first comeout roll. Well if the above numbers are true then we have a win rate of 48.22% The pass line has a win rate of 49.3% Only a DI can overcome those odds. Rick, good to see you on this board!
HA would be 3.55%, lower than placing 5/9.
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Cheers,
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July 15th, 2010 at 4:05:26 PM
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Quote: goatcabinHA would be 3.55%, lower than placing 5/9.
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Alan Shank
True, but it is still higher than a field bet, playing 6/8 or buying 5/10. A nonstandard bet should offer a jackpot.
July 15th, 2010 at 5:10:33 PM
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Quote: pacomartinTrue, but it is still higher than a field bet, playing 6/8 or buying 5/10. A nonstandard bet should offer a jackpot.
Only if the field pays triple 12.
As a general rule, bets with lots of variance, that pay off long odds, also have high house edges, like the Fire Bet. This is also true of most of the proposition bets. This bet is unusual among non-standard bets in that it has low variance and pays even money, so the HA is relatively low.
I agree there doesn't seem to be much incentive to make this bet, unless you believe you can avoid the seven by setting/DI. If you're going to play for even money, bet the pass line!
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Cheers,
Alan Shank
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