$20 Match Play Coupon Value: Spanish 21

A certain East Coast casino allows match play coupons to be played on Spanish 21. 6 decks, S17 game.

Match play portion also pays 3:2 on naturals, full odds on 6-7-8 and 7-7-7 bonuses, $20 cheques + match play is a $40 bet and qualifies for $5,000 super bonus.

Late Surrender loses match play coupon only, player retains $20 chips.

Double down/split for chips + match play amount ($40).

Rescue for full doubled amount ($40).

How much is this coupon worth and what are some basic strategy deviations?

Basically, I'm looking for a expected return table similar to this http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/5/.

Any advice is appreciated.

Quote: chaunceyb3

A certain East Coast casino allows match play coupons to be played on Spanish 21. 6 decks, S17 game.

Match play portion also pays 3:2 on naturals, full odds on 6-7-8 and 7-7-7 bonuses, $20 cheques + match play is a $40 bet and qualifies for $5,000 super bonus.

Late Surrender loses match play coupon only, player retains $20 chips.

Double down/split for chips + match play amount ($40).

Rescue for full doubled amount ($40).

How much is this coupon worth and what are some basic strategy deviations?

Basically, I'm looking for a expected return table similar to this http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/5/.

Any advice is appreciated.

Are you planning on buying a bunch or something?

Nope, there's no market for them (the casino isn't Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun). I just get a bunch of them every weekend and feel like I am throwing money away playing them on the Pass Line. Maybe Katarina Walker's book has some expected value tables?

I doubt you're going to find a table for this, though I'd imagine the EV is better on Spanish 21 than craps. Either way, it's a marginal amount of EV for the effort, so I'd stick with Craps if it's significantly easier or just play basic strategy, maybe surrendering slightly wider if the Index play is close (no idea if it is.)

If surrender gives you your cheques back and you only lose the coupon, you surrender a LOT.

you basically surrender any stiff hand, and a lot of other hands as well. (so if you have 12 vs 6, you surrender).

Basically any hand with an EV < -0.333 or so you surrender. (whereas normally you only surrender hands with an EV < - 0.5)

EDIT: Nevermind.

Yeah, the way they are handling surrender is very nice (player friendly). Wish casino's here (vegas) did that.

Also the full pay on blackjack is sweet. I hate that casinos here did away with that and with only pay even money. That's cheap! By definition, they are suppose to 'match' the payout of the original wager.

I actually have a similar question regarding $10 match play coupons at the Orleans in Vegas. I get $100 worth of $10 match play coupons as a side benefit of entering a bowling tournament there in February...what would be the best way to play through the match play and walk away with as much of it as possible? I'm not too enthusiastic about the idea of playing BJ with it since I don't know how that would work with splits, doubling down, etc....would the pass line at a craps table be a decent way to cash out as much of the match play as possible?

I also know how to play pai gow although I'm not sure if that has a better EV than craps...probably not unless it's commission-free which it won't be at the Orleans.

Quote: scubatim84

I actually have a similar question regarding $10 match play coupons at the Orleans in Vegas. I get $100 worth of $10 match play coupons as a side benefit of entering a bowling tournament there in February...what would be the best way to play through the match play and walk away with as much of it as possible? I'm not too enthusiastic about the idea of playing BJ with it since I don't know how that would work with splits, doubling down, etc....would the pass line at a craps table be a decent way to cash out as much of the match play as possible?

I also know how to play pai gow although I'm not sure if that has a better EV than craps...probably not unless it's commission-free which it won't be at the Orleans.

Play whatever game you enjoy the most. The difference in EV is insignificant to the overall advantage. I like BJ because you can get it dine quickly. Craps and Roulette take longer. If you want entertainment value craps is probably better.

Quote: scubatim84

I actually have a similar question regarding $10 match play coupons at the Orleans in Vegas. I get $100 worth of $10 match play coupons as a side benefit of entering a bowling tournament there in February...what would be the best way to play through the match play and walk away with as much of it as possible? I'm not too enthusiastic about the idea of playing BJ with it since I don't know how that would work with splits, doubling down, etc....would the pass line at a craps table be a decent way to cash out as much of the match play as possible?

I also know how to play pai gow although I'm not sure if that has a better EV than craps...probably not unless it's commission-free which it won't be at the Orleans.

Wager on "player" at baccarat or don't pass at craps.