New AP Blog

Remember T Dane, a surveillance guy who wrote
a book about it? He has a very interesting AP blog
now that's worth a read.

http://tdane.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-05-29T23:57:00-07:00&max-results=4&start=4&by-date=false

Quote: EvenBob

Remember T Dane, a surveillance guy who wrote
a book about it? He has a very interesting AP blog
now that's worth a read.

http://tdane.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-05-29T23:57:00-07:00&max-results=4&start=4&by-date=false

Thank you EB, for bring this to our attention. I only very quickly scanned the topics discussed so far and didn't find anything really new or useful, but I do have high regard for T Dane. I had some good conversations with him on several sites that I participate on and found him to be very knowledgeable, despite that he received a rather unwelcome greeting on several sites. (not going to go back and look, but I believe this site may have been one that was kind of hard on him). He definitely knows his stuff and personally, I like to pick the brain of those on the other side of table or those looking down on the tables, every chance I get.

Quote: EvenBob

Remember T Dane, a surveillance guy who wrote
a book about it? He has a very interesting AP blog
now that's worth a read.

http://tdane.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-05-29T23:57:00-07:00&max-results=4&start=4&by-date=false

kewlj is right; he was here, promoting his book, a couple years ago. Haven't read the thread through yet.

Quote: beachbumbabs

kewlj is right; he was here, promoting his book, a couple years ago. Haven't read the thread through yet.

One regular poster suggested he was full of it and the book was useless. It seems it wasn't.

Quote: thecesspit

One regular poster suggested he was full of it and the book was useless. It seems it wasn't.

I had a lot to say at the time, like this:

'This guy is definitely an amateur. His marketing platform
is almost non existent. Write a book, publish it yourself,
and sell it yourself. If you go thru a decent vanity press
house, they at least have a sales staff that will get your
book out there on Amazon and B&N. He's got nothing. '

I've since read the book and it's quite good. Not worth
$90, though. It was a worthwhile read that I would have
paid $15 for, maybe. As it was I got is for free from a
friend.

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Pretty basic information, but probably interesting for those not in the business. I'm not really sure who is target audience is with the blog. Maybe just trying to sell the book. At $90 a pop it only takes a handful or two a month for some good extra income.


ZCore13

Quote: Zcore13

Pretty basic information, but probably interesting for those not in the business. I'm not really sure who is target audience is with the blog. Maybe just trying to sell the book. At $90 a pop it only takes a handful or two a month for some good extra income.


ZCore13

It is GREAT info for people just like me. I have been on ploppy for so long with aspirations of being an AP. I love reading about the inner workings of a casino.

When I watch TV shows like Las Vegas. I also wonder if surveillance really works like they showed it to.

I was not impressed with his casino coin bucket theft information. Possibly he didn't know (if he did why would you leave it out?) guys would simply slide up the plastic dividers between the machines and grab buckets full of $1 coins, no tag team needed, no suspicious activity, no interaction, hard to see by surveillance or anyone. Most people never even realized they had been ripped off. People would think they just spent the coins or miscounted their buckets because no one ever went near them.

Yeah, Axel, I was going to say, the one time I knew I was hit was about 20 years ago, I had 3 buckets of nickels to the right of the machine, one behind the next. When I went to cash, finally, I only had 2 buckets there; the 3rd one in the back had evaporated. Wasn't too long after that they had put plexiglass shields in between, where machines were back-to-back, but too late for me. Was around $50 worth in the bucket.

Think this post didn't belong here. Moved it to here ...

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/19245-a-day-in-the-life-my-version-of-vegas-trip-report/3/#post387469

Quote: beachbumbabs

Yeah, Axel, I was going to say, the one time I knew I was hit was about 20 years ago, I had 3 buckets of nickels to the right of the machine, one behind the next. When I went to cash, finally, I only had 2 buckets there; the 3rd one in the back had evaporated. Wasn't too long after that they had put plexiglass shields in between, where machines were back-to-back, but too late for me. Was around $50 worth in the bucket.

I bet I have lost many buckets in the same manner. I can not remember the exact number but I used to cash out machines when they got to X amount of credits. Anything over would be a hand pay and it took forever to get it done. There were times when I had 6 or 7 buckets. I could see one disappearing and me not having a clue.

I can remember the annoyance when the machine would run out of nickles and you had to wait for an attendant to come to you and get a bag of nickles.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Yeah, Axel, I was going to say, the one time I knew I was hit was about 20 years ago, I had 3 buckets of nickels to the right of the machine, one behind the next. When I went to cash, finally, I only had 2 buckets there; the 3rd one in the back had evaporated. Wasn't too long after that they had put plexiglass shields in between, where machines were back-to-back, but too late for me. Was around $50 worth in the bucket.

Imagine the big $1 buckets full OF DOLLAR TOKENS. They hold about $400 from what I can remember.

Not the first or only time but....

One time I had a guy playing something very lucrative for me, it was a lock(Stardust was often a gold mine). I came by to see how he was doing. He was fairly new working with me, so he was very happy to report he was up like 2 grand, and pointed look at all the coins.
I could see sheer panic on is face as he jumped out of the chair and started looking everywhere, emotionally rambling.

I didn't know what he was trying to say at first. I just knew something was missing (I know the look, I have had my wallet taken from a machine, because I forgot it) He just kept slaying, "I didn't steal, I didn't steal, check my wallet and my pockets, I have not left they were right here." He was in tears.

After I understood he was missing his buckets of coins. I told him to calm down and relax, explain and walk me through it. He had 2 out of 6 buckets left stacked on top of each other,

After he explained. I reached back and slid the plexi-glass up. It was a bad beat, it was the only one on that row that was not fixed. I told him, sh*t happens, put them on the other side and be careful. Rack-em up after 2 are filed, keep them in the front and call a change girl to watch the machine for you and tip her.