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February 22nd, 2019 at 5:53:58 AM permalink
I saw the nice video that the Las Vegas Review Journal has of the snow that's fallen in Las Vegas.

As a Canadian that's had freezing rain the last couple weeks and a big cold snap prior to that, I say share the weather wealth!

Now the flip-side is that we're two weeks away from the start of March Break and my trip to Las Vegas so I'm hoping your weather turns when I'm there. 25C and sunny so we can take a dip in the pool would be nice. 8-)

Just curious do Las Vegas residents just run summer tires all year or do most people have all-season tires? All-seasons would be fine in what Las Vegas is experiencing weather-wise provided you're familiar with Winter driving.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:17:57 AM permalink
It is supposed to be about 22C for a high starting next week.

Everybody just runs a standard tires all year long in Las Vegas. This snow was a once every 10 years occurrence.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:40:11 AM permalink
I couldn't help but make a video to mark the occasion.



Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8228YxqOA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2UNtHg4QGf-bU6w6pL2lC8durrahEXJ1bgN9XdFmo2WkoYjZXKtGYf0FM
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:37:52 AM permalink
Helpmespock

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Damaging winds likely on Sunday.

Damaging winds with gusts to 90 to 110 km/h are expected to develop Sunday afternoon after the passage of a sharp cold front. Areas near the Great Lakes are more likely to experience winds at the higher end of this range. The strong winds will persist through Sunday night and gradually weaken on Monday.

Damage to buildings, such as to roof shingles and windows, may occur. Power outages are also possible.

In addition flurries and blowing snow will develop Sunday afternoon. Local snowfall amounts in the 2 to 5 cm range are possible by Monday morning. More importantly, any fresh snow that falls will be whipped up by the very strong winds creating whiteout conditions at times.

Visibility may be significantly and suddenly reduced to near zero making travel hazardous.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 8:42:47 AM permalink
Las Vegas just got more snow than we've had in Oklahoma in like the last 8 years. WTF

The first time I went to Vegas back in the 90's, it rained so hard a bunch of streets flooded and they had to close them down.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:00:23 AM permalink
All schools are closed. Due to "freezing conditions." Most of the valley had overnight lows around 34-35F. The schools really need to be open more if the people in charge think that is "freezing conditions." This is the first time I ever felt like Las Vegas was in a bubble. The entire rest of the country just calls this February. Surfing around on the internet it looks like Mount Charleston got 12", places closer to there got up to 3-6", everywhere else it just looked like when I had bad dandruff as a teenager. Still cool.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:26:43 AM permalink
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All schools are closed. Due to "freezing conditions."



I'm still perplexed by that one. Yesterday we had a once-in-a-decade snow, which I'm sure every kid would have loved to play in, and they don't cancel school. Then today, when it is simply a little cold, they do. I live in Summerlin, which is at higher elevation than most of the city, and our roads are clean and dry.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:16:07 AM permalink
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the weather be a changing no matter what the POTUS says



Because the weather has always been
so boring and predictable before now?
Weather is ALWAYS changing, that
the only thing predictable about it.

Manmade climate change, biggest
hoax ever played.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:01:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm still perplexed by that one. Yesterday we had a once-in-a-decade snow, which I'm sure every kid would have loved to play in, and they don't cancel school. Then today, when it is simply a little cold, they do. I live in Summerlin, which is at higher elevation than most of the city, and our roads are clean and dry.




I suspect the possibility of a four day weekend didn't hurt.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:32:40 AM permalink
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It is supposed to be about 22C for a high starting next week.



f-32=9/5c is what they taught us way back when, that still taught?

20/5 = 4 [+ remainder 2]
the idea being to break it down into something divisible by 5 since:

the formula says 9/5 so,
9*4 = 36,
multiplying by 9/5 is very close to doubling, so, the remainder of 2c = @4f
36+4 = 40,
add in the missing 32 degrees,
40+32 = 72 degrees F [approx]

actual answer 71.6 ............ just wanted to show how I have recently come to do that in my head

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=convert+22+celsius+to+fahrenheit
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February 22nd, 2019 at 1:21:40 PM permalink
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f-32=9/5c is what they taught us way back when, that still taught?



Double it and add 30.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 2:04:55 PM permalink
One of the ways is just to remember 50=10 68=20 (then 32=0 etc.)

Also 20 = warm, 30 = hot, 10 = cold, 0 = freezing and best of luck outside those limits (I know it gets to 100oF in the summer over there!)
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February 22nd, 2019 at 2:25:14 PM permalink
I just remember the 10s and just add/subtract 1.8s per degree.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 2:30:47 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Double it and add 30.

I used that for years, but accuracy breaks down pretty bad in hot weather. Going in reverse, f to c, subtracting 30 and dividing by 2 might still be the way to go since otherwise you have to find something easily divisible by 9 to get started and you can get a remainder to deal with that is a bit large. Of course that works well if F-32 is a number exactly divisible by 9 , or next to one.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 2:55:21 PM permalink
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I'm still perplexed by that one. Yesterday we had a once-in-a-decade snow, which I'm sure every kid would have loved to play in, and they don't cancel school. Then today, when it is simply a little cold, they do. I live in Summerlin, which is at higher elevation than most of the city, and our roads are clean and dry.



Does your area even have plows for the streets? Or is the ground warm enough that the streets stay clear. We had 6 inches last week but it as 3 degrees out. Makes the roads a mess even in an area that is used to it.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 3:09:40 PM permalink
I do 1.8c + 32 = f
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February 22nd, 2019 at 3:23:22 PM permalink
I just wait until it's -40 so I don't have to do the math.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 4:49:36 PM permalink
In usually warm places, it's not that it was just a dusting. It's that they don't have any equipment to deal with it and that drivers aren't used to driving in it. The combination makes the streets very dangerous for both pedestrians and drivers. People don't slow down, space themselves safely, or leave enough stopping room, and there can easily be ice under snow in those temperatures. So I think it was smart for them to cancel school.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:13:43 PM permalink


*Note* The pic is not by me. It's some other me.



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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:38:51 PM permalink
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:42:46 PM permalink
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Helpmespock

just a little HEADS UP for you to tie down everything before Sunday they say we might have a

BOMB CYCLONE

Damaging winds with gusts to 90 to 110 km/h are expected to develop Sunday afternoon after the passage of a sharp cold front. Areas near the Great Lakes are more likely to experience winds at the higher end of this range. The strong winds will persist through Sunday night and gradually weaken on Monday.



Yes my wife was warning me of that alert for the KW area. That big wind storm last summer pulled large sections of shingles off lots of rooves in our neighbourhood. I bought a metal roof and it has stood up well.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:51:21 PM permalink
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Everybody just runs a standard tires all year long in Las Vegas. This snow was a once every 10 years occurrence.



Sorry I didn't mean snow tires. I meant summer tires vs. all-season. The fellow at the desk across from me at work is a car guy and he runs summer tires in the good weather then switches to winter tires in November. Summer tire rubber starts to get inflexible around 5C so that it's like driving on hard plastic even on dry pavement. Winter tires have a softer rubber compound for the colder weather.

Personally All-seasons are OK until -10C as long as there isn't a lot of snow or ice. Provinces like Quebec mandate that everyone has Winter tires for their vehicle. Ontario lets you choose.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 8:02:00 PM permalink
Quote: helpmespock

Sorry I didn't mean snow tires. I meant summer tires vs. all-season. The fellow at the desk across from me at work is a car guy and he runs summer tires in the good weather then switches to winter tires in November. Summer tire rubber starts to get inflexible around 5C so that it's like driving on hard plastic even on dry pavement. Winter tires have a softer rubber compound for the colder weather.

Personally All-seasons are OK until -10C as long as there isn't a lot of snow or ice. Provinces like Quebec mandate that everyone has Winter tires for their vehicle. Ontario lets you choose.

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I don't know the difference between summer tires and all weather. WE just use whatever comes on the car. They are just tires to us.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:16:56 PM permalink
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You can't do cross-country with downhill skis.



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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:31:14 PM permalink
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I just remember the 10s and just add/subtract 1.8s per degree.



That's what I do too.
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February 23rd, 2019 at 2:11:18 AM permalink
I had a Canadian roommate once in college and it was really hot outside. He was being all dramatic by saying, "Wow, it must be 100 degrees outside!" I said yeah, that sounds about right.

He was using Canadian units and being dramatic, while I was using Freedom units, in which case 100 degrees was accurate. So that was funny.
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February 23rd, 2019 at 2:17:31 AM permalink
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I knew somebody would get me on that one.



I live in MI, it was very very wrong
in so many ways. Probably jail time
in some northern MI counties..
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February 23rd, 2019 at 3:24:04 AM permalink
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I do 1.8c + 32 = f

Not bad. I suppose for 22c I can handle 2*18 + 20*18, then move the decimal, but if I have one figure to remember while I crunch the other, I tend to fumble it - if it is to be done in the head. 27*1.8, say, gets tough. A verbal approach I can deal with, but trying to manage too much data at the same time is a weakness for me, it keeps me from being very good in chess.

I might try your way but I'd have 1.8 to memorize now while 'nine fifths' and '32' are stuck in the head forever.
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February 23rd, 2019 at 7:06:34 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Double it and add 30.

Centigrade to Fahrenheit (rapid math cheats)
(1) 2x+30
(2) Then correct with -0.2x+2 (Every 10 degrees is -2 correction).

0C = 30 + 2 = 32
10C = 50 + 0 = 50
20C = 70 -2 = 68
30C = 90 -4 = 86

If you want to impress someone with math, you can say "It's about 90....86 to be exact."
Estimation allows you to give fast approximate answers.

I do the same with slot machine EV.
(1) Quick estimate for a 93% machine
(2) Then adjust for 93.21% + 0.2% slot points (using a calculator... some pros have written apps or spreadsheets, but I don't want a surveillance camera seeing those...always possible to do calculations in a bathroom stall away from cameras, but you might want to sit on the machine so no one else can play it).

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In practice, I just remember both C & F for important temperatures (and use +/- 1.8 for nearby temperatures).
For Hotel rooms, I like 72F ~= 22C, so I memorized both temperatures.

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Quote: odiousgambit

Not bad. I suppose for 22c I can handle 2*18 + 20*18, then move the decimal, but if I have one figure to remember while I crunch the other, I tend to fumble it - if it is to be done in the head. 27*1.8, say, gets tough.

You can also do 1.8x + 32 with
(1) 2x
(2) subtract 10%, giving 1.8x
(3) add 32

For 22C,
22 x 2 = 44
-4.4 = 39.6
+32 = 71.6F
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February 23rd, 2019 at 11:12:20 AM permalink
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Just curious do Las Vegas residents just run summer tires all year or do most people have all-season tires? All-seasons would be fine in what Las Vegas is experiencing weather-wise provided you're familiar with Winter driving.

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February 23rd, 2019 at 1:13:17 PM permalink
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All season tiers in Vegas, LOL. If windshield wipers were a paid option on cars we wouldn't even have those. I think mine has been broken for over a year now.



That isn't good. I know what you mean but when the rain does come it can be a problem if you don't have wipers. I tend to let them go too long as well changing them every 2 years. I can tell the summer has ruined them but they are difficult to maintain as you have stated. I decided to join and reply to this thread because I got caught in the snow storm driving up from Tucson on Thursday to Las Vegas. The 93 was closed and traffic was detoured over to Needles. When I was near Searchlight the traffic was backed up. It seems they closed 13 miles of road off for hours. I turned around to Needles and stayed in a Motel for about 8 hours. The roads were clear but when I got to Searchlight it was foggy and snowing. I took some nice pictures. I made it to the city around 4 am which was about a 12 hour delay in my plans. Unfortunately the Vegas Club has been torn down.
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February 24th, 2019 at 6:40:36 AM permalink
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I don't know the difference between summer tires and all weather. WE just use whatever comes on the car. They are just tires to us.



There must be no car guys on the board here otherwise they'd be freaking out.

I've gotten educated by my car guy co-worker so a brief overview would be:

Summer tires -- designed for warm weather to give superior handling and braking on dry or wet, but warm roads. The rubber compounds are harder and the colder it gets the worse they'll perform. Tread patterns will be good for sheading water, but not snow. My car guy co-worker claims he can feel the difference in traction starting from about 5-8C.

All-season -- this is supposed to be the all around tire for all types of weather -- warm, cold, wet, snow, etc. Many folks claim they're actually not all-season, but 3 season tires. Only good in Spring, Summer, and Fall. The rubber stays softer than a summer tire as the temperature drops, but I can start to feel the difference in traction starting at -8C. All-season tread patterns help in both wet and snow. An inch or less of snow typically isn't a problem for All-seasons. Deeper snow can be a problem for All-seasons as they don't have the aggressive tread pattern that would help in deeper snow.

Snow tires -- these tires have soft rubber compounds and tread patterns to get through the snow. Some models allow for metal studs to be placed in the tire to help with traction. Studs aren't legal in Southern Ontario, but are OK in Northern Ontario. Some models also claim to be good on ice as they have special sips to help with ice traction. The flip-side is that you shouldn't run your snow tires when the temperature gets above 8-10C as the tires will wear quickly due to the softer rubber.

tirerack.com has lots of good information on tires.

My wife and I ran All-seasons for years because most of our Winter driving was in the city and they salt pretty heavily in town. Last year my wife moved schools to a country school 25 minutes outside of our city and I got her snow tires for her Winter driving. It made a big difference for her in traction in the Winter. I still run All-seasons on my car.

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February 24th, 2019 at 10:26:24 AM permalink
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That isn't good. I know what you mean but when the rain does come it can be a problem if you don't have wipers. I tend to let them go too long as well changing them every 2 years.



My wife and I are very spoiled. We have never replaced tires on a car or replaced windshield wipers. We just buy new cars every time something is in need of replacing.
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February 24th, 2019 at 1:34:26 PM permalink
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My wife and I are very spoiled. We have never replaced tires on a car or replaced windshield wipers. We just buy new cars every time something is in need of replacing.



You can buy a new car every 2
years and never have to replace
anuything. Today. 30 years ago,
not so much. 40 years ago, nope.
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February 24th, 2019 at 1:35:01 PM permalink
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My wife and I are very spoiled. We have never replaced tires on a car or replaced windshield wipers. We just buy new cars every time something is in need of replacing.



I did that when my kids were young and my ex drive an hour each way to work. Cant have a breakdown in 110 degree weather, especially with kids. New car every 3 years for each of us. 3 year lease.


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February 24th, 2019 at 2:01:25 PM permalink
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My wife and I are very spoiled. We have never replaced tires on a car or replaced windshield wipers. We just buy new cars every time something is in need of replacing.



I just recently replaced my tires. I don't think this car has gone through a tire change ever, but it was startin to smell funny at stoplights after getting off the highway.
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February 24th, 2019 at 3:30:55 PM permalink
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There must be no car guys on the board here otherwise they'd be freaking out.



Would they freak out if I said I don't understand the difference between four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive?
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February 24th, 2019 at 3:33:09 PM permalink
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Would they freak out if I said I don't understand the difference between four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive?



Where you live you don't need to
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February 24th, 2019 at 4:12:31 PM permalink
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Would they freak out if I said I don't understand the difference between four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive?


IIRC, both of them mean that power is given to all the tires (IE: not 2 wheel drive) and one of them means tires can rotate independently of the other tires, and the other means all the tires are in sync with each other (EG: One tire can't "go faster" than another tire). At least I think so? I think AWD is better, too, but not sure which one.
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February 24th, 2019 at 4:22:25 PM permalink
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IIRC, both of them mean that power is given



"All-wheel drive: A drivetrain that employs a front, rear and center differential to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle. Four-wheel drive: A drivetrain that employs two differentials and a transfer case to provide power to all four wheels of a vehicle."
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February 24th, 2019 at 4:56:11 PM permalink
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Would they freak out if I said I don't understand the difference between four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive?



Yes they would. Actually my car guy co-worker drives a Subaru WRX STI.

Others have covered what the difference is between the two.

Strangely enough my wife just bought a 2019 Acura RDX and it has Super Handling - All-Wheel Drive where each wheel can spin at its own rate and up to 70% of the engine's power can be transferred to the rear wheels when required. One of the things it'll do is send power to the appropriate outer rear wheel to assist in turns.

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February 24th, 2019 at 8:12:45 PM permalink
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One of the things it'll do is send power to the appropriate outer rear wheel to assist in turns.

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Just something else that will go wrong
and cost a fortune to fix. Buy a new
one every three years and make it
somebody elses problem.
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February 25th, 2019 at 3:11:22 PM permalink
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That isn't good. I know what you mean but when the rain does come it can be a problem if you don't have wipers. I tend to let them go too long as well changing them every 2 years. I can tell the summer has ruined them but they are difficult to maintain as you have stated. I decided to join and reply to this thread because I got caught in the snow storm driving up from Tucson on Thursday to Las Vegas. The 93 was closed and traffic was detoured over to Needles. When I was near Searchlight the traffic was backed up. It seems they closed 13 miles of road off for hours. I turned around to Needles and stayed in a Motel for about 8 hours. The roads were clear but when I got to Searchlight it was foggy and snowing. I took some nice pictures. I made it to the city around 4 am which was about a 12 hour delay in my plans. Unfortunately the Vegas Club has been torn down.



Welcome to the board. Unfortunately, you missed the Las Vegas Club getting torn down by a few years.
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February 25th, 2019 at 3:46:22 PM permalink
Whenever I have to put chains on my car, I can never remember if it is front-wheel drive or back-wheel. What are most cars?
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February 25th, 2019 at 3:50:35 PM permalink
American cars traditionally were rear wheel drives. I'm not sure about the modern ones.
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February 25th, 2019 at 3:54:32 PM permalink
Rule of thumb is, 4 cylinder and most 6 cylinders are front wheel drive. 8 cylinder and most trucks, are rear wheel drive. Most high-end sports cars are RWD.

You can always Google the model you're driving to make sure.
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February 25th, 2019 at 4:03:29 PM permalink
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Rule of thumb is, 4 cylinder and most 6 cylinders are front wheel drive. 8 cylinder and most trucks, are rear wheel drive. Most high-end sports cars are RWD.

You can always Google the model you're driving to make sure.



Actually, most high end sports cars are now AWD.
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February 25th, 2019 at 4:11:02 PM permalink
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Just something else that will go wrong
and cost a fortune to fix. Buy a new
one every three years and make it
somebody elses problem.



The Acura SH-AWD has been around since 2005 and my understanding is it has a good track record.

I'm both with you and against you Bob on the three years thing because it depends.

If you're buying/leasing a brand new car and only keeping it for the first three years then I think that's an awfully expensive way to have a car.

If you're buying a beater near the end of its life and keeping it for three years then turning around and doing that again then this is a really cost-effective way to have a car. My daughter did this for her last year of high school as she insisted that she needed a car. She paid everything for it -- the car, gas, and insurance -- so I was OK with it. An unnecessary expense in my opinion since she could have taken the school bus, but what does Dad know?

We typically buy brand new and then try to get 10+ years out of it, but we count anything we're getting past 10 years as gravy.

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February 25th, 2019 at 4:11:28 PM permalink
I'm just laughing at the idea of summer tires. Here in the Midwest we say things like "what's summer" and "oh yeah, that summer was a nice Tuesday." Envious of you Vegas dwellers.
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February 25th, 2019 at 4:15:13 PM permalink
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Whenever I have to put chains on my car, I can never remember if it is front-wheel drive or back-wheel. What are most cars?



I like the other answers, but I'd say most cars these days are front-wheel drive. A lot of trucks and SUVs are all-wheel drive.

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