IAchance5
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July 11th, 2013 at 4:06:34 PM permalink
What are the best (fastest) directions from the airport to the GVR? I want to make sure the cabbie doesn't dick me around by taking me on some crazy loop on the interstate or something...I've heard stories that the LV cabs tend to take you on "joy rides" to make more dough...thanks in advance!
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July 11th, 2013 at 4:08:12 PM permalink
Airport exit, to 215 East, exit on Green Valley pkwy, it's right there. 12 minutes.

Edit MapQuest:
McCarran airport
5757 Wayne Newton Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89111

to

Green Valley Ranch Station
2300 Paseo Verde Parkway,
Las Vegas, NV 89052
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July 11th, 2013 at 4:34:04 PM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

What are the best (fastest) directions from the airport to the GVR? I want to make sure the cabbie doesn't dick me around by taking me on some crazy loop on the interstate or something...I've heard stories that the LV cabs tend to take you on "joy rides" to make more dough...thanks in advance!



all i know is if you are going to, twards thr strip simply day NO TUNNEL, but to GVR the tunnel may be the best bet
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July 11th, 2013 at 5:32:02 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Airport exit, to 215 East, exit on Green Valley pkwy, it's right there. 12 minutes.



So that would take me down Paradise Rd, correct?
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July 11th, 2013 at 5:59:30 PM permalink
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So that would take me down Paradise Rd, correct?



Yes, from the airport to 215 - but that's the only available choice there...there's not another road leaving the airport's property.
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July 11th, 2013 at 6:09:25 PM permalink
No, going onto Paradise Road from the airport up to Tropicana & Swenson would mean they're Long-hauling you. But this is the actually correct way if you're going to a strip Hotel, but the Long-Haul way if going South or East (like to GVR).

For you, and from Inside the airport, Paradise Road ends at the airport's internal loop, with a break-off extension tunnel road (going under the east-west runway) - leading to 215 East and West. (also to Hidden Well Road/George Crockett road, a local road to the business area complex south of the airport. IGT, SHFL, WMS gaming, Humana Health, United Coin, Komani, Western money systems, and DEQ USA are all around there. You'll take this way on business.)

When you grab a cab, he should:
1. Exit into the loop, and he should bear to the right - you'll see "To 215 - Henderson".
2. When he jumps onto the tunnel underpass, he gets over to the left lane, and onto 215 East. 4 miles later you're at Green Valley Ranch.
3. Just remember - if he goes under a tunnel, into left lane, and onto a highway 215E, he's good.


Piece of cake if the driver is honest.
In Vegas, that's a crap shoot.
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July 11th, 2013 at 6:26:06 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

No, going onto Paradise Road from the airport up to Tropicana & Swenson would mean they're Long-hauling you. But this is the actually correct way if you're going to a strip Hotel, but the Long-Haul way if going South or East (like to GVR).

For you, and from Inside the airport, Paradise Road ends at the airport's internal loop, with a break-off extension tunnel road (going under the east-west runway) - leading to 215 East and West. (also to Hidden Well Road/George Crockett road, a local road to the business area complex south of the airport. IGT, SHFL, WMS gaming, Humana Health, United Coin, Komani, Western money systems, and DEQ USA are all around there. You'll take this way on business.)

When you grab a cab, he should:
1. Exit into the loop, and he should bear to the right - you'll see "To 215 - Henderson".
2. When he jumps onto the tunnel underpass, he gets over to the left lane, and onto 215 East. 4 miles later you're at Green Valley Ranch.
3. Just remember - if he goes under a tunnel, into left lane, and onto a highway 215E, he's good.


Piece of cake if the driver is honest.
In Vegas, that's a crap shoot.



Wow, I always thought that the tunnel was still Paradise road. If that's not the case, then I retract my previous statement.
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July 11th, 2013 at 6:49:40 PM permalink
It may not hurt to print out a big page with the official estimate provided by


Approximate Minimum Fares to Various Southern Nevada Locations
DESTINATION Green Valley Ranch
DROP =$3.30
MCCARRAN AIRPORT FEE =$1.80
MILEAGE =8.24 MILES x $2.60 Per mil
4 Minutes Wait Time =$2

Fare=$3.30 + $1.80 + 8.24*$2.60 + (4 *$0.50) = $28.52

Show it to the driver beforehand, and say this is what you expect. Point out that you have allowed for 4 minutes of wait time.

He is very unlikely to take you for 15 miles if you've discussed this number beforehand. If he wants to point out that some road is closed, or it is too busy this time of day, say you would like to know about it before you get in the taxi.

In the Mexico City airport you prepay an attendant in a booth using an official chart. He gives you a slip which you provide to the drive. No money is given to the driver, and he does not expect a tip. If you give him two $20 he doesn't drive off and say THANK YOU FOR THE TIP.
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July 11th, 2013 at 7:11:16 PM permalink
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Wow, I always thought that the tunnel was still Paradise road. If that's not the case, then I retract my previous statement.



Paradise road "ends" at Russell Road and Paradise inside of the airport, and leads into the McCarran airport loop, and to a long underground highway entrance ramp to I-215, as in a tunnel under an airport runway. An internal traffic light and nearby cutoff to the terminals signals the loop point. You are inside McCarran Airport, on airport grounds.

It is by no stretch of the imagination a street or a road at this point (it is a lot like the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel under the East River in New York City, not being West Street anymore), but a part of McCarran Airport's internal loop and its 215 highway entrances. Ignore what MapQuest calls it, because you're on Interstate 215, or at an airport terminal. Paradise road re-starts as a different lane south of Sunset Road, and you won't be on it unless you now exit the highway you're on.

You can think of this extension as Paradise road, or of McCarran's internal loop, or of 215's entrance ramps under the airport. As long as you're not getting long-hauled.
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July 12th, 2013 at 5:44:52 AM permalink
I believe GVR has a free shuttle. Call the casino to confirm and for schedule. Or Google it. Save $25.
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July 12th, 2013 at 6:13:02 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin


4 Minutes Wait Time =$2
Fare=$3.30 + $1.80 + 8.24*$2.60 + (4 *$0.50) = $28.52.



Wait time is not waiting time. Any speed from zero to about 8-12 mph is calculated as Wait Time. Most cabbies are not there to rook you. Most cabbies will not give you a tour of the town unless you've asked for one. Even if your destination is GVR, which is not thrilling for a cabbie to hear, some travellers will ask the cabbie for his phone number.
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July 12th, 2013 at 6:37:54 AM permalink
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Wow, I always thought that the tunnel was still Paradise road. If that's not the case, then I retract my previous statement.

It depends on who you talk to.

Dan's respons seems to suggest that the tunnel is not part of Paradise Road. Google maps says it is. However it definitely ends at Sunset since the original (pre-tunnel) Paradise continues south of Sunset just a little east of the tunnel. The official name of the tunnel road, from the airport to the highway is McCarran Airport Connector.

Therefore, telling a cabbie to take Paradise is standard for strip hotels to avoid the tunnel long haul. If you're going to GVR, saying Paradise is an invitation for a long haul. Just specify tunnel to the highway.
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July 12th, 2013 at 10:16:33 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I believe GVR has a free shuttle. Call the casino to confirm and for schedule. Or Google it. Save $25.


The GVR website says that there is a shuttle from the airport (one every two hours, from 7:30 AM to 9:30 PM).
Click here for the concierge page, which includes a button for the shuttle information.

It also says that you need a room key to board it, but that doesn't make any sense - how many people who need to be taken from the airport would have already checked in?
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July 12th, 2013 at 10:46:10 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Quote: pacomartin


4 Minutes Wait Time =$2
Fare=$3.30 + $1.80 + 8.24*$2.60 + (4 *$0.50) = $28.52.



Wait time is not waiting time. Any speed from zero to about 8-12 mph is calculated as Wait Time. Most cabbies are not there to rook you. Most cabbies will not give you a tour of the town unless you've asked for one. Even if your destination is GVR, which is not thrilling for a cabbie to hear, some travellers will ask the cabbie for his phone number.




Why is that not thrilling to hear for a cabbie? I might assume that there is not a lot of return business from GVR? Otherwise it seems like a nice fare.
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July 12th, 2013 at 10:26:07 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Wait time is not waiting time. Any speed from zero to about 8-12 mph is calculated as Wait Time. Most cabbies are not there to rook you. Most cabbies will not give you a tour of the town unless you've asked for one. Even if your destination is GVR, which is not thrilling for a cabbie to hear, some travellers will ask the cabbie for his phone number.



I realize that "wait time" is just slow driving time. But "wait time" is what it is officially called by the taxicab authority. But wait time is only going to be 50 cents per minute. You can judge if the traffic is going slow.

I don't see anything wrong with showing a cabbie what his authority estimates as the time and cost. If the meter says $30 you can't really complain, but if it says $50 then you've been taken.

Fare=$3.30 + $1.80 + 8.24*$2.60 + Wait Time Fee = $26.52 + Wait Time Fee.
You would have to drive at 12 mph the whole way for the trip to take 40 minutes. If that happens then he would be entitled to $20 in wait time. But if you note the time of the ride and it's about 25 minutes, and the meter still reads well over $40, then he went a round-about route.

A 4 mile deviation is going to add over $10. It is going to be a lot more prominent.

BTW: A taxi meter should provide the rider with some kind of code. At a later date the customer should be able to go to the internet and download an itemized bill for the ride so he knows mileage and all surcharges, time of pick up and time of dropoff, and waypoints for the route. That way customers will have proof if they've been cheated.

Google estimates 8.1 miles and 12 minutes for the trip, which is consistent with the 8.24 miles from the taxicab authority.

Quote: Google Directions

McCarran International Airport Wayne Newton Blvd
1. Head southeast on Wayne Newton Blvd toward Terminal 1 Departures
0.2 mi
2. Keep right at the fork, follow signs for Las Vegas/Henderson/I-15/I-215 and merge onto McCarran Airport Connector/Paradise Rd
Continue to follow McCarran Airport Connector
1.4 mi
3. Keep left at the fork, follow signs for I-215 E/Henderson/Lake Mead and merge onto I-215 E
6.0 mi
4. Take exit 5 for Green Valley Pkwy
0.2 mi
5. Keep right at the fork, follow signs for Green Valley Parkway S and merge onto S Green Valley Pkwy
0.3 mi
6. Turn right onto Paseo Verde Pkwy
Destination will be on the right
0.5 mi
Green Valley Ranch Resort & Spa
2300 Paseo Verde Pkwy, Las Vegas, NV 89052

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July 12th, 2013 at 11:00:16 PM permalink
Drivers in Vegas often unable to obtain documentation from their own cab company as to calls to and from police, transcripts of such calls, etc. Vegas cabs unwilling to have intelligent meters.

GVR would probably be a one way trip for the cabbie... he would love a return fare but is unlikely to luck into one.
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July 13th, 2013 at 6:00:30 AM permalink
There's only one way to get to GVR and that's the A.C. to 215W and that's it. Any cabbie would be happy to take you there since there is always a cab line at the hotel. Case closed.
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July 13th, 2013 at 5:43:36 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Vegas cabs unwilling to have intelligent meters.



Well nobody wants more insight into their activities. But presumably the meters have stored all this information and it is available to the taxi company.

Article on audi of Vegas Taxis concluded that 22.5% of sample 2,730 rides took a longer route than necessary, and that overcharges were estimated at $14.8 million last year.

The report said the Nevada Taxicab Authority needs to do more to prevent these roundabout rides.

So if the information is available, it should be accessible to the general public. The receipt should also include the calculated mileage that the taxi was expected to take.
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July 13th, 2013 at 6:05:20 PM permalink
Most of those over charges go to the cab company which often punishes those drivers who come in low for the shift.
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July 25th, 2013 at 7:19:17 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I believe GVR has a free shuttle. Call the casino to confirm and for schedule. Or Google it. Save $25.



Yea, I checked on that but I arrive at the airport over an hour before the shuttle arrives....and since I'm not a high roller, GVR won't be sending the limo to pick me up...$25 it is...
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