Hole Carding Heat?
I'm looking at playing ultimate Texas Holdem $50 ante. Although the table minimums are $10 and $15.
Should I be worried about playing at Indian casinos where I heard set their own laws/rules?
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And don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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Quote: teliotAnd don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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yeah i normally 10x my 72 duce off good catch!
Quote: heatmapQuote: teliotAnd don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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yeah i normally 10x my 72 duce off good catch!
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Hammer!
10x is not allowed in UTH. Maybe you are thinking of some other game.Quote: heatmapQuote: teliotAnd don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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yeah i normally 10x my 72 duce off good catch!
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Quote: teliot10x is not allowed in UTH. Maybe you are thinking of some other game.Quote: heatmapQuote: teliotAnd don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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yeah i normally 10x my 72 duce off good catch!
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im so ignorant about most of these subjects you can take my word as jest most of the time ... borderline hijacking almost
No problem, but fact checking is really not that difficult and is really a great way to enhance personal credibility. I mean, if I were to say we are doomed due to 420 ppm CO2 and 1910.8 CH4, together with a record Antarctic sea-ice minimum, I mean, I would fact check that before I posted it.Quote: heatmapQuote: teliot10x is not allowed in UTH. Maybe you are thinking of some other game.Quote: heatmapQuote: teliotAnd don't 4x your 7-2 offsuit.Quote: Sgdon't be too aggressive with your play . blend in with the ploppies bet . don't be the highest bettor . Drink and have an act if you can , try to have a spotter . if you don't have one , don't slouch ...common sense. The most important is get to know how they run the place and who are the sharp pit personnel. Hope this helps
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yeah i normally 10x my 72 duce off good catch!
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im so ignorant about most of these subjects you can take my word as jest most of the time ... borderline hijacking almost
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But yeah, hole-carding UTH requires a fair amount of cover plays, as the opportunities to max bet truly crappy holdings abound.
a) In most situations "it is the wrong play mathematically" (really obvious)
b) If you "4 x raise" because you know that the 7 is the next card coming on the flop, you do have somewhere around ~64% of winning^^^ that hand. But, your play will probably be "scrutinized to death*** ", after doing that (especially if you continued to play at that table/casino, after making that play)
^^^: "Average win chance" based on figures from a holdem calculator app, so I don't know if that figure is correct, or not.
***: Betting "4x raise" on that hand would be similar to "standing on a 6 vs dealer 6 in BJ, when playing one on one, if you know the next card is a 10" (at least in terms of "raising eyebrows" / "having extra scrutiny on your play from surveillance", etc).
Quote: SandybestdogYou don’t need to holecard on UTH to draw heat. Just sit down, buy in for more than $200 and put your bets up and don’t bet the side bets. Then 4x your ace. Every eye within 15 feet will be on you. God forbid you’re playing heads up holdem and get pocket aces. Might as well just muck that. They’ll be talking for weeks about the guy who got aces but didn’t bet it.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I've been doing that and no one has batted an eye...
Yup, it's called basic strategy.Quote: itseddieTQuote: SandybestdogYou don’t need to holecard on UTH to draw heat. Just sit down, buy in for more than $200 and put your bets up and don’t bet the side bets. Then 4x your ace. Every eye within 15 feet will be on you. God forbid you’re playing heads up holdem and get pocket aces. Might as well just muck that. They’ll be talking for weeks about the guy who got aces but didn’t bet it.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I've been doing that and no one has batted an eye...
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doesnt this only last till the dealer change?Quote: billryanIf a good hole carding situation arises, you might as well beat it to death as quick as possible as others will quickly latch on to it and burn it out.
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how often do table dealers table change?
and what best position to sit figure out if dealer is exposing cards?
1st base? 3rd base?
1) Within the first few rounds, I got paid on all three bets (play-blind-ante) when I had a winning hand with a pair, I think this increases the expected value by at least +4.7% (so for that hand, it was a +EV bet for me?)
2) "Not very important overall", but before I had to make a decision, I could see the cards of the person to my right more than 50% of the time (even with "full table info" it is not enough to overcome the house edge ?, but I would still be interested to know what things like that are worth^^^).
^^^: This may have been written about in other threads (under something like "player collusion").
Quote: 100xOddsdoesnt this only last till the dealer change?Quote: billryanIf a good hole carding situation arises, you might as well beat it to death as quick as possible as others will quickly latch on to it and burn it out.
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how often do table dealers table change?
and what best position to sit figure out if dealer is exposing cards?
1st base? 3rd base?
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Ideally, you want to control every spot.
About a decade ago, a long-time dealer downtown suddenly started flashing. The story goes that by his third shift, the LVHCM flooded his table.
For example, in the classic “Casino Texas hold 'em” is enough 1 time in 10 make a fold (more than in the basic strategy) noticing a stronger card from the croupier (those. lose -1ante instead of -3ante). And your expected value will increase and gambler mathematical expectation will increase by +6%, instead of -2,2% it will become +4,2%
Well I guess you’ve found the super special spot.Quote: itseddieTQuote: SandybestdogYou don’t need to holecard on UTH to draw heat. Just sit down, buy in for more than $200 and put your bets up and don’t bet the side bets. Then 4x your ace. Every eye within 15 feet will be on you. God forbid you’re playing heads up holdem and get pocket aces. Might as well just muck that. They’ll be talking for weeks about the guy who got aces but didn’t bet it.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I've been doing that and no one has batted an eye...
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Quote: 100xOddsdoesnt this only last till the dealer change?Quote: billryanIf a good hole carding situation arises, you might as well beat it to death as quick as possible as others will quickly latch on to it and burn it out.
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how often do table dealers table change?
and what best position to sit figure out if dealer is exposing cards?
1st base? 3rd base?
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Depends on the dealer on how they pick up the cards. There is one dealer at a casino I play at and not only does he flash one of his hole cards, but flashes one or 2 cards of the flop. It has back fired on occasion, betting max and 4x and taking some bad beats. I sit at 1st base to gain advantage from this particular dealer.
Quote: itseddieTWill I draw attention if I'm hole carding and winning a lot or if I play too long? When's a good time to leave?
I'm looking at playing ultimate Texas Holdem $50 ante. Although the table minimums are $10 and $15.
Should I be worried about playing at Indian casinos where I heard set their own laws/rules?
Thanks guys 👍
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Hi !
What other card games are there in that casino except Ultimate Texas Holdem?
Quote: DobrijIf you don't want to go to jail, is very stupid idea to use information in every round.
For example, in the classic “Casino Texas hold 'em” is enough 1 time in 10 make a fold (more than in the basic strategy) noticing a stronger card from the croupier (those. lose -1ante instead of -3ante). And your expected value will increase and gambler mathematical expectation will increase by +6%, instead of -2,2% it will become +4,2%
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Why would he go to jail? holecarding isn't illegal as long as there's no dealer collusion.
Having players share their cards also isn't illegal. It'll probably get you banned from the casino but can you elaborate on what part can get someone in jail?
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Why would he go to jail? holecarding isn't illegal as long as there's no dealer collusion.
Having players share their cards also isn't illegal. It'll probably get you banned from the casino but can you elaborate on what part can get someone in jail?
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At first I thought it was collusion with dealer, ar micro cam
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I'm surprised there are casinos in the US with lax table procedures, in Eastern Europe and Russia, there is almost nowhere for a dealer to deal cards from his hand
