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January 3rd, 2022 at 2:57:53 PM permalink
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I donít know if they make burlap bags that big
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Perhaps he could take off that funny looking pope hat.
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January 3rd, 2022 at 3:16:55 PM permalink
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Just three weeks ago Caesars Palace advertised for a host. The job description said salary plus commissions.
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Obviously you read that wrong, MDawg says it doesn't work that way.
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January 4th, 2022 at 4:48:18 AM permalink
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Today, in house Vegas hosts get salary only.
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That doesn't seem to be possible, I believe hosts earn salary+commission in Vegas.
I'm sure if I book a room through my host, he earns a commission off me, but not really sure if I play without a booked room then ask for some food comp.

Sometimes hosts would approach new players and offer food or room. They seem to care more about you booking a room for the next visit, it seems like they don't earn commission by giving you food comp the same day.
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January 4th, 2022 at 7:34:22 AM permalink
The most likely answer is that it varies from casino to casino. If they want to reward their ... marketing team which essentially a host is an arm to it... they can do that if they want.
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January 4th, 2022 at 7:55:58 AM permalink
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Today, in house Vegas hosts get salary only.
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That doesn't seem to be possible, I believe hosts earn salary+commission in Vegas.
I'm sure if I book a room through my host, he earns a commission off me, but not really sure if I play without a booked room then ask for some food comp.

Sometimes hosts would approach new players and offer food or room. They seem to care more about you booking a room for the next visit, it seems like they don't earn commission by giving you food comp the same day.
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Player development is going to be individualized from brand to brand and how they implement their own programs. Yes there are some casino hosts that are going to make a percentage off of your Theo and other ones that will not and the department will and it will be split amongst the player development personnel. But again it is going to be varied and different from casino brand to brand.
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January 4th, 2022 at 11:22:43 AM permalink
I am not familiar with how hosts are paid. Hosts are not part of my play and game plan. As a matter of fact, I do everything I can to avoid them in the name of anonymity.

But it just cracks me up that there is one person, who insists that he knows and insists that it is straight salary, when everyone else that knows and has some experience, says otherwise, including a member that personally knows several hosts and a member that posted Ceasar's recent ad for a host which was salary + commission.

Just another interesting observation.
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January 6th, 2022 at 10:36:54 AM permalink
Independent hosts have different arrangements with different casinos, but even they get more from a player they represent who plays all week and builds up a big theoretical loss (and say, wins) versus a straight regular loss.

In house hosts, it is generally misleading to say that they always get something specific out of a player's straight losing or even playing - there are in some cases team bonuses or bonuses obtained when the aggregate of a host's players play beyond a certain level, and in some casinos there is no such structure at all and it is straight salary. As well, if a host's players all fall below a certain level and stop playing much at all, there could be repercussions as well. These sorts of arrangements are usually what is meant by "commission" bonuses.

In any case, just as a player earns more comps via long hard play versus blowouts, the same for any host who directly or indirectly gains some benefit from a player's play - these hosts will get more out of players who keep playing versus who straight lose quickly.
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January 8th, 2022 at 1:16:28 AM permalink
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Yes they can make extra money like that but I think itís limited to if you lose. The last time I checked at least. I bet there is different models for different casinos. Hosting is like an in house casino junket but they are paid salary they essentially function the same way if you know how junkets work.
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The junket brings guests to casinos, so he reasonably earns a commission.
When a guest goes to the casino, play heavily first, then reach a host asking for a food comp, the host essentially didn't contribute anything to the guest's play.
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January 8th, 2022 at 5:19:47 AM permalink
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Yes they can make extra money like that but I think itís limited to if you lose. The last time I checked at least. I bet there is different models for different casinos. Hosting is like an in house casino junket but they are paid salary they essentially function the same way if you know how junkets work.
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The junket brings guests to casinos, so he reasonably earns a commission.
When a guest goes to the casino, play heavily first, then reach a host asking for a food comp, the host essentially didn't contribute anything to the guest's play.
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The guestís PAST play. But certainly can affect FUTURE play.
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January 8th, 2022 at 7:00:46 AM permalink
I've never heard of straight-up commissions for a casino-employed host, but I have no doubt it's a thing. That sounds like a really bad idea to me.

For the most part, I was under the impression they received bonuses if the total of all their assigned players hit various action levels.
I know some hosts get paid significant bonuses for bringing in high-level players.

I don't think the average host makes a significant amount of money, I'd be surprised if the average host made over 68k a year.
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