Croupier
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November 15th, 2009 at 3:48:25 AM permalink
At the casino I work in here in the uk, for Blackjack we use the rules Double any Initial Total, Split Any Pair, Resplitting unlimited, Double after split (except aces) Resplit aces, No surrender and dealer is dealt one face up card and stands on soft 17. We also use 4 decks and a continuous shuffling machine with standard procedure being to leave cards in the discard until they amount to roughly one deck before replacing in the shuffler, which equates to between 2-3 hands on a full 7 spot table, or 7-9 with one or 2 spots open.

I was wondering a couple of things.

Firstly, what would the house edge be on this rule set?

And secondly, Recently I had a player, playing one spot and refusing to take any cards whatsoever, regardless his total or my card. What would the house edge be for this.?
And Finally, we have a side bet called 21+3 which i dont know if you are aware of. If the players cards on the initial deal and the dealers card make either a straight (eg player is dealt an 8 and a 9, and the dealers card is a 10) a flush (all 3 cards are hearts, clubs etc) three of a kind or a straight flush the player is paid 9 to 1.

What are the odds for this occuring and what is the house edge on the bet? I had a look at work and couldnt find any literature on the subject.

Thanks in advance for any insight you may be able to give me.

Love the site btw, as a Dealer its extremely interesting and helpful when people ask me for advice. Keep up the excellent work!
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noy2222
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November 18th, 2009 at 1:32:45 AM permalink
While on the subject of stupid play:
Under the same rules, what's the house edge on someone who hits on anything below 21 (never doubling or splitting)?
Noy
boymimbo
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November 18th, 2009 at 8:21:32 AM permalink
Quote: Croupier


And secondly, Recently I had a player, playing one spot and refusing to take any cards whatsoever, regardless his total or my card. What would the house edge be for this.?



The house edge I calculated based on 8 decks where you stand on the soft 17, using the wizard's charts (he does not have a chart for CSM). I calculated a house edge of 16.00%.
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Croupier
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November 20th, 2009 at 3:31:25 AM permalink
I guess the Wizard is bored of stupid Blackjack questions.

I dont blame him, Ive read throughmostof the questions myself and Id be sick of blackjack related stuff :D
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boymimbo
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November 22nd, 2009 at 8:14:52 AM permalink
The answer to the 21+3 question is located here: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix8.html#21+3. House edge is 3.24%.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 12:41:36 PM permalink
Looks like 0.43% on the house edge. You can use my blackjack house edge calculator for that. Then add 0.11% for the European no hole card rule.

As someone noted, side bets are covered in my blackjack appendix 8.

About the player who only stood, I have no idea. Just off the top of my head, I would say he is bucking about a 20% house edge.
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November 23rd, 2009 at 12:46:10 AM permalink
Thanks for that. Missed the house edge calculator and must have overlooked the appendix with side bets.
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