wildgoe
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August 13th, 2019 at 6:06:21 AM permalink
Hey guys,

I'm planning on spending some time in Turkey, where gambling is highly regulated. I've made a research and came to a conclusion, that the only secure way to access online gambling sites is by using VPN (virtual private network). In more detail, you can route your internet connection through a server in your country, or a country with more permissive laws (such as US). This means that you can then access online websites without being blocked because of your location.

The question is - have you ever used VPN for gambling online? Any recommendations regarding VPN provider?

The most recommended (according reddit + comparitech + proprivacy) are NordVPN and ExpressVPN. The first one is much more cheaper (with extra3y coupon ~2 bucks) and the other one ~8 bucks...

Will be waiting for your recommendations!
AxelWolf
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August 13th, 2019 at 6:57:24 AM permalink
Quote: wildgoe

Hey guys,

I'm planning on spending some time in Turkey, where gambling is highly regulated. I've made a research and came to a conclusion, that the only secure way to access online gambling sites is by using VPN (virtual private network). In more detail, you can route your internet connection through a server in your country, or a country with more permissive laws (such as US). This means that you can then access online websites without being blocked because of your location.

The question is - have you ever used VPN for gambling online? Any recommendations regarding VPN provider?

The most recommended (according reddit + comparitech + proprivacy) are NordVPN and ExpressVPN. The first one is much more cheaper (with extra3y coupon ~2 bucks) and the other one ~8 bucks...

Will be waiting for your recommendations!

Using a VPN may very well may gain you access to the site, however, if they have specific rules about using VPN's I'm pretty sure that they can tell if you are using a VPN if they look into it. You dont want them free rolling you on a non payment AFTER THE FACT. Using a server would probably work, but I dont think that's 100% foolproof. There is also something about making sure you clear your cookies and if they DL anything on your computer they can detect VPN programs and other things.


I too am very interested in knowing an "easy" foolproof way to completely change your location without them knowing you are doing so. I have asked a few people who know about this sort of stuff and they didnt seem to have a good answers that would solve my puzzle without going though some complicated expensive procedures.

if there is anyone who knows a significant amount about this kinda stuff please PM me. Depending on the information and situation I am willing to pay a little if somome can help me solve some issues.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
wildgoe
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:15:10 AM permalink
Thanks for your answer, AxelWolf.
BigDad
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM permalink
I am also interested in this issue, if someone answers you, I will be glad to buy this information too. Thanks
Gandler
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August 13th, 2019 at 9:10:43 AM permalink
Quote: wildgoe

Hey guys,

I'm planning on spending some time in Turkey, where gambling is highly regulated. I've made a research and came to a conclusion, that the only secure way to access online gambling sites is by using VPN (virtual private network). In more detail, you can route your internet connection through a server in your country, or a country with more permissive laws (such as US). This means that you can then access online websites without being blocked because of your location.

The question is - have you ever used VPN for gambling online? Any recommendations regarding VPN provider?

The most recommended (according reddit + comparitech + proprivacy) are NordVPN and ExpressVPN. The first one is much more cheaper (with extra3y coupon ~2 bucks) and the other one ~8 bucks...

Will be waiting for your recommendations!



I don't know the laws in Turkey, but having spent time in countries that strictly prohibit gambling (and even block this site from their internet), I will say this is most likley highly illegal and not worth the risk.

Also, it is illegal stateside to pretend to be in a states boundries to play on a state sanctioned casino. For example if I wanted to play an NJ online casino (pretty much the only online casinos I trust), I have to be within NJ state lines on my phone or laptop, and if I use a VPN to fool the GIS system, that can lead to huge fines (not to mention automatic forfeiture of any winnings....)

In my opinion, not worth the risk, both from the Turkey law side and the stateside law side....

But, of you did want to proceed it would probably be best to do it via private messages, because there are a forum rules against encouraging the breaking of state and Federal laws, (or at least there were, with all of the changes, who knows now....)
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MDawg
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August 13th, 2019 at 10:08:41 AM permalink
It depends on whether the site in question has the technology to blow through the VPN and "see" your actual IP address, also whether the site in question has the means to detect whether you are using a VPN. There is easy technology available for site holders to address both of these. If yes to either of these, and they wish to eliminate VPN log ons, then VPN will not work for you.

There are some proxies that are immune to one or both of these.

There is a LOT more to this, I have written dozens of pages on the subject of proxies but for obvious reasons have not posted any of it publicly.
heatmap
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August 13th, 2019 at 10:10:26 AM permalink
Quote: wildgoe

Hey guys,

I'm planning on spending some time in Turkey, where gambling is highly regulated. I've made a research and came to a conclusion, that the only secure way to access online gambling sites is by using VPN (virtual private network). In more detail, you can route your internet connection through a server in your country, or a country with more permissive laws (such as US). This means that you can then access online websites without being blocked because of your location.

The question is - have you ever used VPN for gambling online? Any recommendations regarding VPN provider?

The most recommended (according reddit + comparitech + proprivacy) are NordVPN and ExpressVPN. The first one is much more cheaper (with extra3y coupon ~2 bucks) and the other one ~8 bucks...

Will be waiting for your recommendations!



Ive recently been banned from online gaming in my jurisdiction, even though i have never spent a cent gaming. Trust me when I tell you, if a VPN is online, which it is, and it is a business, which it is, they only have a range of IP addresses, and it is not much extra work to quantify and "blacklist" IP addresses that belong to VPNs. Its trivial. Technology is too fast and can out think you or anyone. If you are caught using anything like VPN, and its in there rules like AxelWolf said, keep in mind they most likely will keep your money as well.

edit i should clarify I WAS NOT USING A VPN, but something called a VIRTUAL MACHINE. which is not actually stated in anyone's rules to be illegal to use while gambling online
Last edited by: heatmap on Aug 13, 2019
Gandler
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August 13th, 2019 at 11:34:31 AM permalink
Quote: heatmap

Ive recently been banned from online gaming in my jurisdiction, even though i have never spent a cent gaming. Trust me when I tell you, if a VPN is online, which it is, and it is a business, which it is, they only have a range of IP addresses, and it is not much extra work to quantify and "blacklist" IP addresses that belong to VPNs. Its trivial. Technology is too fast and can out think you or anyone. If you are caught using anything like VPN, and its in there rules like AxelWolf said, keep in mind they most likely will keep your money as well.



Exactly, do not do it.

Yes it can be done if you know what you are doing.

But, most likely you will be caught, and you will lose your winnings (and not be given your losses), and possibly fined, if a state finds out....

If Turkey finds out, it can likely be much worse...

I quickly found this on wiki (so take it for what it is worth), but it sounds highly risky if they want to make an example of you:

"Online gambling in Turkey is currently prohibited, with the exception of the state-owned sports betting company, IDDAA, which is the only Turkish entity that is allowed to offer internet gambling services. The law that prohibits online gambling in Turkey was passed in 2007 and recently, Turkey has also been taking measures to prevent players from using foreign internet gambling websites as well. Despite the ban on gambling, many Turkish players continue to bet on online gambling sites and are recognized as leading gamblers. In 2013 Turkish government issued the law by which Turkey has become the first country in the world to target individual players instead of gambling operators. Sanctions for anyone caught in Turkey to access online gambling services is a penalty of between £ 100 and £ 500 (about $ 55-278). Casino operators dealing with the Turkish market and bankers serving them can also face the prison conditions at the same time."

-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Turkey (Online Gambling Section).
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gordonm888
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August 13th, 2019 at 3:01:53 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

edit i should clarify I WAS NOT USING A VPN, but something called a VIRTUAL MACHINE. which is not actually stated in anyone's rules to be illegal to use while gambling online



Was it a robot? I believe you would not be the first person to do that.
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AxelWolf
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August 13th, 2019 at 3:06:40 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Was it a robot? I believe you would not be the first person to do that.

nor the first person to get their account shut down for doing so.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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