tonymerchant
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March 10th, 2019 at 8:57:11 AM permalink
How’s it goin? How can job 9/6 earn a profit of the payout is under a 100%? Without comps ? In long term is the only profit when you hit the royal flush ? Or there’s a system for quitting if you win a certain amount for a session ?
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March 10th, 2019 at 9:09:46 AM permalink
Quote: tonymerchant

How’s it goin? How can job 9/6 earn a profit of the payout is under a 100%? Without comps ? In long term is the only profit when you hit the royal flush ? Or there’s a system for quitting if you win a certain amount for a session ?



Video poker is only profitable long term when the payback from the game plus cash back and comps exceeds 100%. It is a long term grind. Forget about sessions. Life is one long session.
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March 11th, 2019 at 6:54:40 AM permalink
Thanks I was wondering if the royal flush was outside of the 99.54%. I ordered the book million dollar video poker yesterday and the software. Hopefully there’s some kind of quit /win or lose rate system at so many units in the book. So far practicing on phone apps , playing perfect my bank roll goes up alittle then stays even for awhile , then steadily goes down.
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March 11th, 2019 at 6:58:28 AM permalink
I’m in North Dakota /Montana border right now , there’s machines everywhere. So far looks like most job are 7/5 though.
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March 11th, 2019 at 7:11:10 AM permalink
Quote: tonymerchant

I ordered the book million dollar video poker yesterday and the software.

SUCKER!!! J/K


Quote: tonymerchant

Hopefully there’s some kind of quit /win or lose rate system at so many units in the book.



Hopefully not, because there is no such system that will work. If you read that book and you find yourself still seeking some "kind of quit /win or lose rate system" You totally missed the point of that book(I never read that book but I have read bits and pieces online and I'm fairly sure Bob Dancer doesn't believe in any type of "quit /win or lose rate system").

If you don't get that "quit /win or lose rate system" out of your head right now you are doomed to fail.

Anyone claiming there is some "quit /win or lose rate system" that works is either a con man or bats**t crazy.

You came to the right place for answers, now you just have to figure out who and what to believe. You can choose to believe in the math and logic or fairy-tails and voodoo, that's up to you. Good luck.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 12th, 2019 at 3:33:44 PM permalink
Try to find 9/6 progressive. The game gets over 100% at about $1300 (for quarters) give or take. I am too lazy to look up the exact figure.
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March 12th, 2019 at 3:45:32 PM permalink
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Try to find 9/6 progressive. The game gets over 100% at about $1300 (for quarters) give or take. I am too lazy to look up the exact figure.



And in the spirit of St Patrick’s Day, also try looking for 4 Leaf Clover under a foot of snow.
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March 12th, 2019 at 6:36:04 PM permalink
Thanks ya I’m not expecting a get rich system, just curious on what the book says on how he turned 6k into a million. I’m working in the oilfield right now and have lots of time on the job sitting in a truck with a laptop or a book so I can study. I’ve been practicing counting cards for about 10 yrs off and on and never really tried it because I’ve never had the bankroll. I’ll have about 5 k to comfortably play with on a trip to Vegas just wondering if I should go for video poker or black jack. So sounds like you have to live in Vegas and play almost daily with the video poker , and be good enough to play even and figure out get the cash back and comps and a bonus once in awhile to profit ? What is a average good cash percentage on the play in Vegas ?
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March 12th, 2019 at 6:38:55 PM permalink
If you can't win a Royal in the first thousand hands you're doomed.
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March 13th, 2019 at 6:47:09 AM permalink
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If you can't win a Royal in the first thousand hands you're doomed.

I think this post is absolute nonsense.
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March 13th, 2019 at 7:01:37 AM permalink
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Thanks ya I’m not expecting a get rich system, just curious on what the book says on how he turned 6k into a million. I’m working in the oilfield right now and have lots of time on the job sitting in a truck with a laptop or a book so I can study. I’ve been practicing counting cards for about 10 yrs off and on and never really tried it because I’ve never had the bankroll. I’ll have about 5 k to comfortably play with on a trip to Vegas just wondering if I should go for video poker or black jack. So sounds like you have to live in Vegas and play almost daily with the video poker , and be good enough to play even and figure out get the cash back and comps and a bonus once in awhile to profit ? What is a average good cash percentage on the play in Vegas ?

"I’m working in the oilfield right now and have lots of time on the job sitting in a truck "

Don't you make well over 100k a year doing that Job? My nephew was. He's now clearing 22k-30k a month after a promotion to crew management.

You will have to read the book. Things are not what they used to be, so I wouldn't get your hopes up thinking you too can turn 6k into millions playing VP. "figure out get the cash back and comps and a bonus" <<< You are on the right track. You would have to live in a location that had lots of casinos or be willing to travel a lot. I guess its possible to find one location that has something you could make a living at.

"What is a average good cash percentage on the play in Vegas ? " Can you rephrase this question, I'm not sure what you are trying ask?
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March 13th, 2019 at 11:35:51 AM permalink
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And in the spirit of St Patrick’s Day, also try looking for 4 Leaf Clover under a foot of snow.



I disagree. It is very easy to find 9/6 JOB progressives. I play them in Vegas, and I just read a trip report 2 minutes ago where someone was playing them in AC. Where are you located that all the 4 leaf clovers are covered in snow?
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March 13th, 2019 at 1:17:06 PM permalink
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I disagree. It is very easy to find 9/6 JOB progressives. I play them in Vegas, and I just read a trip report 2 minutes ago where someone was playing them in AC. Where are you located that all the 4 leaf clovers are covered in snow?




He's probably located in Vegas. There are definitely NOT many 9-6 JoB progressives in Vegas. I know where they are, and where several used to be. They ain't there. 8-5 Bonus may be a different story. 15-9 Deuces, 7-5 Bonus, 9-6-5 Double, seem to be the trend. If you can just find one with a good meter, that may represent the future. And why shouldn't there be a good meter on 7-5 Bonus? A half percent on 7-5 Bonus is a crime.
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March 13th, 2019 at 3:12:28 PM permalink
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Thanks ya I’m not expecting a get rich system, just curious on what the book says on how he turned 6k into a million. I’m working in the oilfield right now and have lots of time on the job sitting in a truck with a laptop or a book so I can study. I’ve been practicing counting cards for about 10 yrs off and on and never really tried it because I’ve never had the bankroll. I’ll have about 5 k to comfortably play with on a trip to Vegas just wondering if I should go for video poker or black jack. So sounds like you have to live in Vegas and play almost daily with the video poker , and be good enough to play even and figure out get the cash back and comps and a bonus once in awhile to profit ? What is a average good cash percentage on the play in Vegas ?



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