ADVplayer
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September 7th, 2018 at 5:30:39 PM permalink
It has been mentioned that if a player was able to peak at one hole card from the dealers' hand, they would have a 3% edge over the house. This is assuming the dealer doesn't quality if they don't have a Q high or better in their hand. It is also assuming that the player wins an ante bonus if they have a straight, trips, or straight flush in their hand.

A local casino offers a three card poker game where they reveal one card. All rules remain the same except what if there were no ante bonus? Regardless if you have a straight, trips, or straight flush, you will only receive even money for the ante bet. The play will also receive even money assuming dealer qualifies. What will be the house edge on this game?

Please ask if you need me to clarify anything.
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:09:23 PM permalink
Hi, and welcome.

Depends on how the game is dealt and what pay tables are used, whether it's a PA.

Here are rules from Wizard of Odds for 1 version of it.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/face-up-three-card-poker/

Here's a thread from a few years ago about it, including several links to different casino versions.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/23704-ultimate-3-card-poker-face-up/#post485895

More details on the particular game you're seeing, especially a rules card, would be appreciated.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
ADVplayer
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:33:38 PM permalink
It is not the same as face up three card, it is better. Here are the rules:

1. Dealer shows 1 up card.

2. Dealer must qualify with a Q.

3. Ante gets paid if dealer doesn't qualify.

4. No Ante Bonus.

I believe that is everything. Let me know if there's a rule i'm missing. It seems like a very decent game.
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:59:03 PM permalink
Quote: ADVplayer

It is not the same as face up three card, it is better. Here are the rules:

1. Dealer shows 1 up card.

2. Dealer must qualify with a Q.

3. Ante gets paid if dealer doesn't qualify.

4. No Ante Bonus.

I believe that is everything. Let me know if there's a rule i'm missing. It seems like a very decent game.



Pairs Plus of course doesn't change. Do they make you play that bet as a 1-3-6 table kills. I don't think point number 3 is a true statement.
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ADVplayer
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September 7th, 2018 at 10:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Pairs Plus of course doesn't change. Do they make you play that bet as a 1-3-6 table kills. I don't think point number 3 is a true statement.



No. You can play only the ante and play.

One card is being shown. I am following the wizards basic strategy. If they have a J or lower, I play every hand. Otherwise, i play Q92 vs Q, K92 vs K and A92 vs A.

The only difference is that there is no ante bonus.

It is too good to be true for a casino to offer a beatable game but i thought I'd ask the forum anyways.
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September 7th, 2018 at 11:01:47 PM permalink
Quote: ADVplayer

It is not the same as face up three card, it is better. Here are the rules:

1. Dealer shows 1 up card.

2. Dealer must qualify with a Q.

3. Ante gets paid if dealer doesn't qualify.

4. No Ante Bonus.

I believe that is everything. Let me know if there's a rule i'm missing. It seems like a very decent game.



The big differences between what the wizard has and what you're reporting are:

1. Do you have to beat the dealer even if he doesn't qualify to win the ante?

2. Is there any per-hand ante or surcharge on a win?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
ADVplayer
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September 7th, 2018 at 11:04:09 PM permalink
The answer to both of your questions are no.

Dealer pays my ante if they donít qualify.

It is free to play every hand.
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September 14th, 2020 at 2:07:07 PM permalink
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I recently came across this same variant of 3-card poker, and was hoping to see an answer to the OP's question. To reiterate, it is regular 3-card poker except there is no Ante Bonus, and the dealer shows one card. If the dealer does not qualify, the ante bet is paid and the player bet pushes, regardless of the player's hand. Is this a positive expectation game?

I know from the Wizard of Odds analysis that in regular casino 3-card poker you have a 3.48% edge on the house if you can see a dealer card, but that includes the Ante Bonus, which this game does not have.

The Pair Plus bet at this game is also better than a typical casino as it includes the mini-Royal payout of 200:1, reducing the house advantage to 4.38% according to Wizard of Odds.
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Romes
September 14th, 2020 at 3:27:48 PM permalink
After some really quick number crunching, I get a house edge of 3.833% with a visible card and no ante bonus.
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September 14th, 2020 at 3:47:00 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

After some really quick number crunching, I get a house edge of 3.833% with a visible card and no ante bonus.


Thanks ThatDonGuy, but could the removal of the Ante Bonus swing the edge from player 3.48% to house 3.833% ? Seems a rather huge swing for a bonus that doesn't pay all that often.

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