TigerWu
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April 26th, 2018 at 1:47:52 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Zelda, there are hot chicks that can be hit on more frequently than the norm, but not hot roulette numbers.



Unfortunately for me I know more about roulette than I do about women. :(
zeldastrike321
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April 26th, 2018 at 2:37:02 PM permalink
So if there is no winning strategy in roulette or blackjack or baccarat or any other gambling game then what is the point of gambling? Surely there must be some winners out of all the losers? Why are people excited to gamble and go rushing to Vegas and casinos if the only outlook they have is losing? What's the point of casinos and even this forum if the whole vibe is negativity from gambling? I know there's house edge and the casino will always make money long term but what about all the top gamblers who have made fortunes out of this are they doing something that the masses don't know about? like pro poker players or the highest earning gamblers?

I know gambling is a losing game and whenever I visit I see people losing and losing over and over and keep reaching into their pockets to lose more? whats the point of this? I know there are many losers but have there been any winners who have ever beaten the casino?
Ibeatyouraces
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April 26th, 2018 at 2:46:45 PM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

So if there is no winning strategy in roulette or blackjack or baccarat or any other gambling game then what is the point of gambling? Surely there must be some winners out of all the losers? Why are people excited to gamble and go rushing to Vegas and casinos if the only outlook they have is losing? What's the point of casinos and even this forum if the whole vibe is negativity from gambling? I know there's house edge and the casino will always make money long term but what about all the top gamblers who have made fortunes out of this are they doing something that the masses don't know about? like pro poker players or the highest earning gamblers?

I know gambling is a losing game and whenever I visit I see people losing and losing over and over and keep reaching into their pockets to lose more? whats the point of this? I know there are many losers but have there been any winners who have ever beaten the casino?


Define "winning" and "losing."
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zeldastrike321
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April 26th, 2018 at 2:49:19 PM permalink
winning is making money from the casino - coming out on top - as opposed to losing - which is depleting your bankroll slowly or fast in the short or long term
Ibeatyouraces
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April 26th, 2018 at 2:55:38 PM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

winning is making money from the casino - coming out on top - as opposed to losing - which is depleting your bankroll slowly or fast in the short or long term


To me, winning is being able to make a living playing with an edge. Losing is the opposite. You cannot make a living nor can you rely on these systems for long term viability. You have to have some sort of edge over the game, no matter what anyone else tells you.
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SiegfriedRoy
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April 26th, 2018 at 2:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

So if there is no winning strategy in roulette or blackjack or baccarat or any other gambling game then what is the point of gambling? Surely there must be some winners out of all the losers? Why are people excited to gamble and go rushing to Vegas and casinos if the only outlook they have is losing? What's the point of casinos and even this forum if the whole vibe is negativity from gambling? I know there's house edge and the casino will always make money long term but what about all the top gamblers who have made fortunes out of this are they doing something that the masses don't know about? like pro poker players or the highest earning gamblers?

I know gambling is a losing game and whenever I visit I see people losing and losing over and over and keep reaching into their pockets to lose more? whats the point of this? I know there are many losers but have there been any winners who have ever beaten the casino?



There are winning strategies such as card counting for blackjack, and other methods like hole carding for blackjack and other card games. You can win short-term and run away with your winnings. Your method is as good as my roulette method of betting random numbers. This is not us telling you your strategy doesn't work, it's probability and math. The notion of hot numbers is false. The ball has no memory. It will land anywhere with equal chance. The repeat numbers you're seeing is variance. If anybody can predict variance on this forum, we would be in the casinos raking in hundreds of thousands or millions. There is a reason why casinos spend tens of thousands of dollars to put a board up there with the history of numbers. It's to give the misINFORMED the illusion that there is a pattern. It makes you want to bet with more confidence. Casinos wouldn't do anything if they knew it gives the players advantage (just think about it). You're not the first to talk about trends and hot numbers in roulette and you won't be the last. I am really not in the business of discouraging you to not make money. However, I'm soft hearted and hate to see many members come to this forum thinking they have a "system" and go lose their house. There is a reason why the Wizard of Vegas has a prize for somebody who comes up with a winning system. I think the prize is $10K. Nobody has been able to crack it in the long-run. The reason is math. You're probably going to come back and say you were only talking about "short-term." Even in short-term your "system" is not a "system." It's just a faulty way of thinking there are hot numbers when all it is coincidence and probability. Can the number 3 hit twice in a row? Sure it can. 3 times? Absolutely. Three times in 10 rolls? Yes, we're all seen them. That doesn't mean there is going to be another 3 in the next 10, 20 or 30 rolls.
billryan
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April 26th, 2018 at 3:09:03 PM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

So if there is no winning strategy in roulette or blackjack or baccarat or any other gambling game then what is the point of gambling? Surely there must be some winners out of all the losers? Why are people excited to gamble and go rushing to Vegas and casinos if the only outlook they have is losing? What's the point of casinos and even this forum if the whole vibe is negativity from gambling? I know there's house edge and the casino will always make money long term but what about all the top gamblers who have made fortunes out of this are they doing something that the masses don't know about? like pro poker players or the highest earning gamblers?

I know gambling is a losing game and whenever I visit I see people losing and losing over and over and keep reaching into their pockets to lose more? whats the point of this? I know there are many losers but have there been any winners who have ever beaten the casino?




Most people that beat the casino do it by luck. They hit a slot machine early on and if it is big enough to be life changing, so be it.
Others slowly beat the casinos in blackjack or video poker but that's not a get rich quick scheme. That's a put a quarter a week into your IRA and in X years you will have saved so much.
A hundred people gather for a bingo game. They each pay a dollar. The winner got $90. The house made $10.
99 people lost a dollar.
TigerWu
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April 26th, 2018 at 3:34:56 PM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

So if there is no winning strategy in roulette or blackjack or baccarat or any other gambling game then what is the point of gambling?



Gambling is fun. That's why I do it.
MrV
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April 26th, 2018 at 3:55:37 PM permalink
Gambling can be quite addictive, depending on your personality and predilections.

Winning is great, but I know walking into the casino that in the long run the casino will have me for lunch.

So why gamble?

That's really a damned good question, given the above.

I am a recreational gambler and gamble for fun, for the stimulation.
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AxelWolf
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April 26th, 2018 at 4:19:56 PM permalink
Some people think won money is twice as sweet as earned money.

Rarely does anybody ever say I made $300 at my job today. However you will often times hear how someone won $300 at the casino today.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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