Teufel
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September 11th, 2010 at 3:09:08 PM permalink
I am using your strategy with 4 decks with good success, but I am unsure how to proceed after the dealer has peeked for a blackjack.

Does that change the strategy I should use?
benbakdoff
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September 12th, 2010 at 4:59:10 AM permalink
Quote: Teufel

I am using your strategy with 4 decks with good success, but I am unsure how to proceed after the dealer has peeked for a blackjack.

Does that change the strategy I should use?



If the hand proceeds after the dealer peeks, play it exactly as the chart indicates. There is no change in strategy.

You didn't mention if the dealer hits or stays on S17, so be sure you are using the right chart. There is a difference.
Teufel
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September 12th, 2010 at 5:46:03 AM permalink
Thank you very much.

The dealer stays on S17, in the game I play.
dm
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September 12th, 2010 at 10:13:42 AM permalink
I don't understand the question. If the dealer has bj you won't be using any strategy. So any strategy only applies if
dealer doesn't.
miplet
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September 12th, 2010 at 10:25:18 AM permalink
Quote: dm

I don't understand the question. If the dealer has bj you won't be using any strategy. So any strategy only applies if
dealer doesn't.


Not all casinos check for blackjacks. If you double or split you may end up losing more than one bet if the dealer gets a blackjack.
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mkl654321
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September 12th, 2010 at 11:19:38 AM permalink
Quote: Teufel

I am using your strategy with 4 decks with good success, but I am unsure how to proceed after the dealer has peeked for a blackjack.

Does that change the strategy I should use?



Perhaps a bit of clarification is in order. In American casinos, the dealer peeks, and immediately turns over her hand if she has a blackjack. Thus, basic strategy assumes that the dealer does NOT have a blackjack. In many European jurisdictions (London being one that comes immediately to mind), the dealer does NOT peek, and if she has a blackjack, all player bets are lost (unles they also have a blackjack), INCLUDING double downs and pair-splits. So basic strategy for Europe is more conservative--you don't double down on 11 vs. a 10, you don't split 8s vs. an Ace, etc. (the Wiz doubtless knows more about this than I do).

Many American casinos went to the no-peek rule several years ago, in an effort to avoid various kinds of cheating, but when they tried to do the European take-it-all practice, some near-riots ensued. Thus, those American casinos ruled that any player double downs or splits were null and void if the dealer turned out to have a blackjack. This had the effect of restoring the former situation. However, it was still annoying for the player to play out the hand, maybe making a 20 or 21, and finding out that he had never had a chance, and lost anyway. For several months in Reno, the downtown casinos had a practice of not peeking, doubles or splits not counting, but YOU COULD TIE if you hit your hand and made 21. Thus, 7-5-9 was a push vs. a dealer AJ! The rule didn't last very long (darn it).

The little red triangle that you now see on many tables, which the dealer uses to check if she has a blackjack, solves all the above problems.
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Bradford100
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September 12th, 2010 at 11:20:52 AM permalink
If you double or split and dealer has blackjack, you only lose your original bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mkl654321
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September 12th, 2010 at 11:42:24 AM permalink
Quote: Bradford100

If you double or split and dealer has blackjack, you only lose your original bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In American casinos, that's true, as I said. In other jurisdictions, such as London, the Caribbean, many Asian casinos, and several in eastern Europe, the dealer takes ALL double and split bets if she has a blackjack.
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Ibeatyouraces
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September 16th, 2010 at 8:38:01 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
benbakdoff
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September 16th, 2010 at 10:53:51 AM permalink
Ditto for Foxwoods. Then they went to the device with the red and green lights which malfunctioned quite often. I assume they have the mirrors now.

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