Odds of getting card
Quote: anaylor01So I was play 100 hand video poker. I held 3 Fours and a 3. So I was drawing one card for 100 hands. Now shouldn't I have drawn at least one four? I was thinking I should have drawn at least 1. Would it have been better for me to just keep the 3 fours?
Depends on the game being played. DDB hold just the 4's. TDB hold the 4's and a kicker if you have one.
Your expected number of four 4's when holding 4443 is 100/47 (i.e.: slightly more than 2).
You really need check the pay table and do the math.
Quote: anaylor01It was 100 hand 5 card video poker. You get better pay if you have four of a kind and a ace, two, three or four. So I held 3 fours and a 3 leaving one card to draw on 100 hands.
Hey buddy, you just ain't listening to him, man. You ain't hearing him. Ask for advice, listen to advice. Something is lost in translation. I know it's possible you may speak English as a second language, I don't know, it's hard to tell on the internet.
Check the game and tell us if it was Double Double Bonus or Triple Double Bonus, or something else.
And it's nice that you found this forum to ask questions, that is good, but also you want to get some books, strategy cards, software, something. Good luck, you'll get it figured out. It takes effort.
Quote: anaylor01It's super double double bonus. Well I held 3 fours and a 3 and didn't get one four of a kind. I think that is pretty odd.
In some circles that's what they call the breaks. Bad luck, dude, better luck next time.
But seriously, draw two to the trips in that game. And like I said earlier, get some books and stuff.
And think positive. No, that won't affect the machine, but do it anyway. Good luck.
Quote: anaylor01It's super double double bonus. Well I held 3 fours and a 3 and didn't get one four of a kind. I think that is pretty odd.
It's unusual, but it's just as likely to get four as it is to get zero. I was playing 100 play today. Drew two pairs a few times. One time I got 14 Full Houses, another time only 6.
Quote: anaylor01It's super double double bonus. Well I held 3 fours and a 3 and didn't get one four of a kind. I think that is pretty odd.
In that game, you only hold the three 4's. Don't feel bad about not catching. I watched a friend hold four to a royal on 100 play and not hit one royal.
You do realize you by holding the 3 as a kicker, could have eliminated the entire possibility of getting fours with a kicker by blocking fours where the three was held. Each 2,3,A you saw might have been a kicker for fours you aborted. Drawing two cards for your quad at 1/24 versus 1 card at 1/47. We all make mistakes learning but do your best to know before you draw what is right. I'm afraid this answer is going to just bring more questions!!!!Quote: anaylor01SO you are saying it's better to just hold the 3 fours and draw two cards per hand? I would of thought that if I had the 3 fours and a 3 I would have at least drew 2 fours. So I would have 4 fours with a 3.
Quote: anaylor01Thanks everyone for you answers. I thought maybe that I shouldn't have kept the 3 but I thought that I would get at LEAST one four. Now I know and knowing is half the battle. GO JOE!!! LOL
I'm not sure you understood the full answer you got. Please excuse the repetition if you did.
The correct play on most vp variations, including the SDDB you were playing, is to hold just the 4's. On two particular variations mentioned, triple double bonus (TDB), and quick quads (QQ), it would be correct to hold the kicker as well.
The resource I use is the wizard of Odds video poker analyzer, for free on the site. It will tell you these things, when to hold a kicker, which ones to hold, when to split 2 pair, a hundred other plays, based on the variation and its paytable.
Odds of getting the last 4 on any particular hand: 1/47 (because there's 1 card you need in the remaining 47 cards on the draw).
Thus you should "expect" to hit the last four 2.12 times on average.
To bake your noodle and make it more interesting... Had you not held the 3 then you'd get the last four 4.24 times out of your 100 hands (on average), with a chance on those hands to get a kicker anyways.
Quote: RomesGuess I haven't seen a math response yet. Regardless of the proper hold, you held 4-4-4-3 and drew on 1 card.
Odds of getting the last 4 on any particular hand: 1/47 (because there's 1 card you need in the remaining 47 cards on the draw).
Thus you should "expect" to hit the last four 2.12 times on average.
Yeah, at least 2 previous posts covered that part. Lol...
My bad! I took a look through each one too and didn't see any numbers on most of them =P. Guess I need to read more detailed, sorry!Quote: beachbumbabsYeah, at least 2 previous posts covered that part. Lol...
Quote: RomesMy bad! I took a look through each one too and didn't see any numbers on most of them =P. Guess I need to read more detailed, sorry!
I'm still new here. Can I nominate this for weird thread of the day?
Quote: RomesMy bad! I took a look through each one too and didn't see any numbers on most of them =P. Guess I need to read more detailed, sorry!
I used EZ math. The real math is too hard
