verseviking
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July 3rd, 2016 at 2:42:02 AM permalink
Hello! I found a casino online with very odd rules:
-Randomly generated deck every round
-3:2 blackjack
-No splitting at all
-Dealer automatically stands on any 16 or above
-Double on first two cards
-No surrender
-Player loses only original bet against dealer BJ

What is the house edge on this? And does the basic strategy change much due to the dealer standing on any 16 or above? If so, which specific parts would change? Thanks!
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July 3rd, 2016 at 6:34:28 AM permalink
Quote: verseviking

Hello! I found a casino online with very odd rules:
-Randomly generated deck every round
-3:2 blackjack
-No splitting at all
...
-Player loses only original bet against dealer BJ

What is the house edge on this? And does the basic strategy change much due to the dealer standing on any 16 or above? If so, which specific parts would change? Thanks!



Wow. That barely qualifies as BlackJack :o)

I'd guess this software is not written by one of the mainstream software suppliers to online casinos, but is more likely some half-baked, home made software knocked out by a tuppeny ha'penny unregulated (shady) casino. If that is so, I would simply not trust the casino to play fair. If they've written the software themselves, it's just too likely to be gaffed, just like the discredited casino that was highlighted in an earlier thread where members were just losing wayyyyy more than they should expect to.

Name and shame?
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verseviking
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July 3rd, 2016 at 4:47:03 PM permalink
From what I've seen, it isn't too shady. It's not even too much of a real online casino, it's a casino for this game I used to play called "CS:GO" on a website called CSGOSpeed. And I saw these rules and thought it very weird and was just wondering about it. They say that it is indeed software that they made themselves, but it uses a system that is very popular in these CSGO online casinos to verify the fairness of games called "Provably Fair".
But if it was fair, what impact would the rule of the dealer standing on all 16 or above have? And how would basic strategy change?
I mostly just wanted to know the impacts of this specific rule since I have never seen it before and find it very odd.
Thanks for the reply!
OnceDear
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July 3rd, 2016 at 5:16:38 PM permalink
Quote: verseviking

From what I've seen, it isn't too shady. It's not even too much of a real online casino, it's a casino for this game I used to play called "CS:GO" on a website called CSGOSpeed. And I saw these rules and thought it very weird and was just wondering about it. They say that it is indeed software that they made themselves, but it uses a system that is very popular in these CSGO online casinos to verify the fairness of games called "Provably Fair".
But if it was fair, what impact would the rule of the dealer standing on all 16 or above have? And how would basic strategy change?
I mostly just wanted to know the impacts of this specific rule since I have never seen it before and find it very odd.
Thanks for the reply!


This might help. It lists the effect on house edge for many rule variations. https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/
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verseviking
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July 3rd, 2016 at 5:52:40 PM permalink
Ok, thanks! Since its not listed, do you think that the rule of the dealer having to stand on all soft 16, hard 16, and above would outweigh the -0.57% from not being able to split?
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July 3rd, 2016 at 10:46:50 PM permalink
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Ok, thanks! Since its not listed, do you think that the rule of the dealer having to stand on all soft 16, hard 16, and above would outweigh the -0.57% from not being able to split?



Wouldn't standing on 16 actually be GOOD for the dealer?
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July 3rd, 2016 at 11:45:40 PM permalink
The dealer's normal best strategy is to hit 16 (as is the player if they didn't know the dealer's upcard). In fact with these rules the player still hits 16 vs 789TA and since the dealer busts less often also hits more vs low cards (15 vs 236, 14 vs 45). Without the splitting restriction it seems to be about .9% in the player's favour.
verseviking
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July 4th, 2016 at 3:27:14 PM permalink
So without the split option, would this blackjack still be in the player's favour?
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