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May 14th, 2016 at 8:09:31 AM
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Can the house edge of a blackjack game calculate how much bet units or money a player will/lose statistically?
When the house edge is .4% and the player is flat betting $5 for 1000 hands using perfect strat ovi
Is there a formula I am not quite coming up with? or is a simulation of this game the way to figure out the win/lost stats?
When the house edge is .4% and the player is flat betting $5 for 1000 hands using perfect strat ovi
Is there a formula I am not quite coming up with? or is a simulation of this game the way to figure out the win/lost stats?
Last edited by: MikeDread on May 14, 2016
May 14th, 2016 at 10:32:22 AM
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Quote: MikeDreadCan the house edge of a blackjack game calculate how much bet units or money a player will/lose statistically?
When the house edge is .4% and the player is flat betting $5 for 1000 hands using perfect strat ovi
Is there a formula I am not quite coming up with? or is a simulation of this game the way to figure out the win/lost stats?
Hi MD,
Calculate? Yes and no.
From the house edge and the average bet size, we can calculate the value of the average amount you would be expected to lose over those 1000 hands. We could also calculate an estimate of the margin of error of that expected loss to certain levels of probability. It goes something like this for Blackjack.
After those 1,000 hands of flat betting $5, your expected loss would be:-
Average expected loss = 1,000 x $5 x 0.4% = $20 lost
BUT
You are unlikely to have lost exactly $20. Maybe you win $5,000. Maybe you lose $5,000 ( Both pretty unlikely )
With 68% probability you will land somewhere in the range
+/- (1000^0.5 x 5 x 1.2) where 1.2 is the standard deviation for one hand of Blackjack
So that's an outcome of $20 lost give or take $190
In my opinion, games won/lost is a bit of a useless stat in Blackjack, because when you win or lose it may be on a doubled or split hand and you may get the occasional Blackjack. There are plenty of tables of numbers on the Wizard of Odds site.
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May 14th, 2016 at 2:59:33 PM
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imo,Quote: OnceDearSo that's an outcome of $20 lost give or take $190
3 standard deviations plus/minus
gives a much better picture of the range one can expect
-$20 +/- 570 =
$550 to -$590
99.73% of the time
so it is still possible to end outside that range
(not including too much to drink and hit your hand until they say you busted)
to have a winning session (after 1000 hands played) is about a 46% chance
average win given a win = ?
have not gone there yet
average loss given a loss = ?
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May 17th, 2016 at 2:19:27 AM
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Hey OD, Thanks this is appreciated
May 17th, 2016 at 5:23:25 AM
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Quote: MikeDreadHey OD, Thanks this is appreciated
If you go to a crazy progressive,
You can win/lose alot more money, much faster ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 17th, 2016 at 7:02:13 AM
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As OnceDear showed you, here's the function...
EV = TotalWagered * HouseEdge = (AvgBet*NumHands)*HouseEdge
Your 1-SD for 1 hand is...
OriginalSD = 1.15*AvgBet
Your 1-SD for ANY NUMBER of hands is...
SD(xHands) = Sqrt(xHands) * OriginalSD
...so in your example.... EV = (5*1000)*(-.004) = -20, OriginalSD = 1.15*5 = 5.75, and your SD(1000 hands) = Sqrt(1000)*(5.75) = 181.83... 3SD = 545.49.
With 99%+ confidence, you can expect to lose $20 +- $545.49 after 1,000 hands flat betting $5.
EV = TotalWagered * HouseEdge = (AvgBet*NumHands)*HouseEdge
Your 1-SD for 1 hand is...
OriginalSD = 1.15*AvgBet
Your 1-SD for ANY NUMBER of hands is...
SD(xHands) = Sqrt(xHands) * OriginalSD
...so in your example.... EV = (5*1000)*(-.004) = -20, OriginalSD = 1.15*5 = 5.75, and your SD(1000 hands) = Sqrt(1000)*(5.75) = 181.83... 3SD = 545.49.
With 99%+ confidence, you can expect to lose $20 +- $545.49 after 1,000 hands flat betting $5.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.